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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: ferretjuggler on April 23, 2014, 11:58:40 AM

Title: English Wheel
Post by: ferretjuggler on April 23, 2014, 11:58:40 AM

 :ace:

Actually found something that I've always wanted,  but could never afford until now.

EBay item no. 161 277 836 427

Looks like pretty good value and quality to me.
Seller sounds like the manufacturer not some slimeball middle man.

Making a suitable frame will be a doddle,  and if I find I need a deeper throat,  I can just cut up the frame and make a bigger one.

OK, so who can see a flaw in this plan?
Will the wheels/rollers be too small to make Jeep size repair sections?
Please voice your opinions now before I blow £205 of my hard earned.

Title: Re: English Wheel
Post by: wildwood on April 23, 2014, 12:29:31 PM

Look to be OK. The work is going to be making a frame to do the biz...

Most of the ones I have seen have a huge heavy cast iron frame that makes them ££££££

I guess the trick will be to bolt your chosen frame design to the floor AND to the wall to give it stability.......

I too would like one of these and a press brake for folding........air hammer would not go amiss either......... Oh and and infusion of talent in their use would come in handy :icon_biggrin:

Word of advice given To me when using an English Wheel was 'wear gloves and keep your thumbs out of the way' :icon_twisted:

Title: Re: English Wheel
Post by: ferretjuggler on April 23, 2014, 01:59:13 PM

They sell "weld up" kits in the USA.
More or less the same as this but with a load of pre cut steel box section,  brace plates and fittings.
You can imagine the cost of shipping to the UK plus duty of course.

So far I'm looking at £205 plus a visit to the steel stockholders.

Hardest bit to fabricate is the adjuster screw for adjusting the pinch between the rollers.
I'm thinking of a short swinging fork with a big bolt and lock nut to tension it.

Title: Re: English Wheel
Post by: Dutch on April 23, 2014, 06:53:54 PM

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161277836427?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D161277836427%26_rdc%3D1

 :017:

Is there also something like a Dutch wheel or is that made of cheese  :hysterical:

Title: Re: English Wheel
Post by: isle of man on April 23, 2014, 07:05:57 PM

Quote from: Dutch on April 23, 2014, 06:53:54 PM

Is there also something like a Dutch wheel or is that made of cheese  :hysterical:

NO, it's just a wheel on it's own !!

Title: Re: English Wheel
Post by: willo on April 24, 2014, 11:03:00 PM

ok, i looked, what does it do?

Title: Re: English Wheel
Post by: wildwood on April 25, 2014, 09:24:08 AM

Shape flat ugly sheets of steel into ones that eventually look like a Manx Norton 5 gall fuel tank...
Or indeed do the same with aluminium.

Think of all the power bulges for the hood that could be done....... :icon_twisted:

Title: Re: English Wheel
Post by: JamesH on April 25, 2014, 09:29:31 AM

 :imwitstupid:

But only with the right person operating it - I'd just turn sheet material into scrap

Title: Re: English Wheel
Post by: Tragic on April 27, 2014, 06:06:49 PM

 :iagree:

I've spent some time using English wheels, it's slow and not easy. Just needs patience and practice. I was shown a few tips by Lance McCormick from Romance of Rust (https://www.facebook.com/romanceofrust), one of which was take your time, and mind your thumbs!

Title: Re: English Wheel
Post by: ferretjuggler on April 27, 2014, 07:01:21 PM

Years ago I found a little workshop in Floodgate Street,  Digbeth.
All that they made was classic motorcycle mudguards.
No doubt you probably need some other expensive bits of kit to finish them off.