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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: neilhull on February 08, 2012, 08:11:47 PM

Title: back to jeeps
Post by: neilhull on February 08, 2012, 08:11:47 PM

Hi after a brake of about 5 years :jump_125: i have decided to get a jeep . looking at two  one is a cherokee  and one is a grand cherokee  both 98 reg  both  2.5tdi what one is best 
  cheers NEIL

Title: Re: back to jeeps
Post by: Tank on February 08, 2012, 08:12:49 PM

The one that isnt a diesel........ :lol_hitting: :lol_hitting:

Title: Re: back to jeeps
Post by: neilhull on February 08, 2012, 08:17:24 PM

Quote from: Tank on February 08, 2012, 08:12:49 PM

The one that isnt a diesel........ :lol_hitting: :lol_hitting:

 I need a diesel one as i make my own bio diesel at 15p a liter

Title: Re: back to jeeps
Post by: Nosebolt on February 08, 2012, 08:23:41 PM

it could be free bio diesel and you would still regret buying a diesel jeep, your real choices are a petrol jeep or a diesel of a different make sorry to say

Title: Re: back to jeeps
Post by: chrisjones on February 08, 2012, 09:16:35 PM

 :imwitstupid:

If it has to be diesel, don't buy a Jeep.

Title: Re: back to jeeps
Post by: tim_aka_tim on February 08, 2012, 10:07:33 PM

Some sources call the VM a tdi, but it's not in the VW sense. The tdi in those Jeeps just means it has an intercooler -
it isn't direct injection. The fact is that it was derived from a boat engine, designed to chug along at constant speed
for hours on end. Don't buy a VM that isn't direct injection. If it doesn't say CRD on the back, walk away.

Carrying on from NBs post, I'd say they time to buy a VM XJ or ZJ is when the gooberment is paying you 10 pound
a litre to burn diesel.

If you can't stretch to a 2002 KJ or 2002 WJ CRD or later, then forget the idea - other 4 wheel drive vehicles are available.

Title: Re: back to jeeps
Post by: bigjeepzj on February 08, 2012, 10:12:25 PM

 :iagree: :iagree: :iagree:

Title: Re: back to jeeps
Post by: Dutch on February 08, 2012, 10:14:55 PM

Quote from: tim_aka_tim on February 08, 2012, 10:07:33 PM

If you can't stretch to a 2002 KJ or 2002 WJ CRD or later, then forget the idea

Dunno if they like swallowing veggie oil tho  :017:

Title: Re: back to jeeps
Post by: tim_aka_tim on February 09, 2012, 03:57:18 PM

Fair point. In general, putting SVO into a direct injection/common rail engine is a bad idea, cus it's just too gloopy
for the high pressures used. With a 2 tank system it can be done though.

Title: Re: back to jeeps
Post by: ivanidea on February 09, 2012, 04:26:04 PM

I suppose it will depend on the quality of the bio diesel. 

I seem to remember reading some posts on www.loskjs.com (http://www.loskjs.com) or www.jeepkj.com (http://www.jeepkj.com) forums about bio diesel in the USA, but I think that was on about the commercial 5% or 10% bio disels.

Title: Re: back to jeeps
Post by: Dave69 on February 09, 2012, 06:25:09 PM

if it doesnt say CRD then walk away and buy a lpg petrol

Title: Re: back to jeeps
Post by: Panic mechanic! on February 09, 2012, 06:31:15 PM

Jeeps don't  do diesel,what you save is rapidly swallowed the day it goes wrong on you.

Title: Re: back to jeeps
Post by: big g on February 09, 2012, 07:21:02 PM

NH didn't you gas up a facelift XJ a while back??

If so I'd be doing the same again,them diesels are truly pish.

Title: Re: back to jeeps
Post by: neilhull on February 09, 2012, 07:50:24 PM

So i wont be back to jeeps  thanks chaps you have saved me a lot of grieve . So i have gone and got a pimp wagon  (toyota lucida 2.2td )   :ace:

Title: Re: back to jeeps
Post by: Mike Pavelin on February 09, 2012, 08:18:41 PM

The XJ is the lesser od 2 evils, at least only the engine is crap.