Birty Dastards Jeep Club
Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Dave The Sparky on June 25, 2010, 08:09:00 PM
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Here we go Bubba finallly got the tub off its only taken me 5 months so far!!!
Remember the 28th Feb 2010 Kev :010: :010: :010:
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Its new home in a cave West Yorkshire
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stripped down to the bare bones again
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As expected chassis all looks sound Kevin but you didnt tell me about the massive hand made fuel tank thats attached to it, must be 20 gallon or more perhaps i will need it :icon_eek:
Just need to strip whats left on the chassis and get it off to be shot blasted and galvanised and then the rebuild can start properly :steeringwheel:
please notice the torque converter restraining device in the photo!! :icon_biggrin:
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it was all tank man i thought it was just a cover
hows it all lookin dave
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looks v complicated :icon_eek:
Im just gonna be buyin a ready made off the shelf CJ8 jobby i reckon, im worn out doin other stuff :015:
But dood, keep the build photos goin :icon_super:
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looks v complicated :icon_eek:
nothing complicated about pulling something to bits Bulldog its putting the thing back together thats hard :jpshakehead:
Its all looking not too bad at the moment Kev i also thought the fuel tank had a big skid plate on it untill i looked properly and found out it was one massive fuel tank.
Chassis looks to be sound although im going to have to put a couple of holes in the back cross member or remove it all together to get all the years of rust and crap out of the chassis rails plus the zinc will need to get out somewhere as well i suppose :icon_biggrin:
Tub is rotten in a few places extra than you knew about but its all mendable and i havent found anything too serious as yet,presuming she must of been looked after quite well by a previous owner or owners.
Also need to sort out the chassis at the front where someone has cut a slot out to presumably get at the steering box mounting nut thats in the chassis although that part on that side looks like its had a repair at some point in the past as well so dont know whats gone on there anyway!
The next parts of this build are going to involve parting with some money actually thinking about it all parts of a rebuild involve parting with money so the local seal and bearing suppliers and Lighthouse Jeep are going to do ok out of me for a while :icon_rolleyes:
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i think the slot was so a new box could be fitted
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Some more photos sorry about the poor quality need some better lighting anyone know a decent sparky???
The worlds largest cj fuel tank, its not handmade although it still looks like it is but i have found a sticker saying Trailblazer inc gas tank division on it so must of been bought in from the States at some point I dont know if the brackets have been welded on by someone to make it fit or if they were always on the tank but it is very poor quality so will be going to the scrappers i think.
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The body tub looks rusty in places but most should save.
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Looks like its had a bump to the back offside corner as there is this repair and the chassis looks to have a bit of twist in it from the fuel tank back
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Back crossmember thought it might be a rusty mess as it had a load of stainless strapped to it but its actually in very good condition just surface rust.
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Stainless stuff that Bubba left strapped to the cj, looks like a proper US jobbie of some sort was installed with all stainless UNC bolts even the 5/8s bolts holding the tow ball are stainless, imagine it must be worth a fair bit in scrap but i think ill put it back on as towing brackets are always handy for recovery purposes and for stopping people "rear ending" you.
Isle of man i await a smutty remark
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its a shame you didn't get a pic of the 8 next to the mighty bronco!
the only time you will get rearended by Mr isle of man is if he gets you to bend over and pic his wallet up at cheepfest (sounds like it could take a bit off lifting!) you can always scream "is that Seline Dion over there" and when he lossens his grip run for it.
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You mean this mighty bronco "on tow" nice wheels by the way :icon_biggrin:
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I'm in good company!!!
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cool, that let u tow a bronco round coranation street :greggmo:
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Is that on route to Canal Street????
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is that c surplus to requirements?
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Dunno??? Do tell me more....
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dunno mate :017: was just tryin to decode the strange workings of your mind :003:
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dunno mate :017: was just tryin to decode the strange workings of your mind :003:
Mucho Porto has been consumed - this is step #1.
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im even more confused, I thort tuesday was ya sesson night
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Oh dear, think you need a quick history lesson on architecture Bulldog you have obviously never ventured further North than Dartford:
Manchester side of Pennines(Coronation Street side or the left hand side to you)= red brick buildings and mad Mancunians.
Yorkshire side of Pennines(the right hand side)= stone built buildings (as in next to Bronco) and proper folk.
London area(the south)=ramshackle housing built on a swamp by dodgy cockney geezers,immigrants and Southern poofters :greggmo: :icon_biggrin:
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I just saw summink small and boxy covered in coal dust and made the wrong assumptions :003:
however, red for mancs and yellow for yorkies, think i can remember that
means i learnt 2 things today :icon_super:
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what a good looking bronco!!
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what a good looking bronco!!
Do you ride it bare back????
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what a good looking bronco!!
I think you will find it "was" a good looking bronco Mr J33pky
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whats he gonna do with that
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Drive to Manc land and ram raid the Rovers? :hysterical:
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That wont happen hed never be able to afford the fuel to get to the border never mind Manchester itself :098:
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what a good looking bronco!!
Tis indeed.
What yr and what's it running??
Back arches look in good order-better than mine anyhows.
Think I'll clag some $hitwackers over them to tidy it.
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was very solid up to the point i scraped it......seemed a shame but it was shit offroad... managed to sell 351w and the 4" lift it had but the rest got scraped..
was a 89 with a 5.8/c6 auto with a 4" lift and 35" bfg muds just proper shit offroad so moved on to other things
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hi probably for the best .....gas guzzlers ruin mother earth...and she needs some looking after...okaayyyy
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Looking at the above post it's obvious (same type and dyslectic farm boy swing) they are the same MOFO'r, never-the-less brought a smile to my face.
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is that peroni the stallions bro?
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Very good BD very good...
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hey dave found another scrambler...look on fte's website readers rides section
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FTE? Link?
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yes please i am interested
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ahhh found it good luck finding that one bulldog
http://www.fte.co.uk/fte4x4/rigs/Rig013.htm (http://www.fte.co.uk/fte4x4/rigs/Rig013.htm)
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you talking about the one with a bumber made from old lamp posts?
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:017: was there another
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:hysterical: funny bumpers, but i can always just remove them
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yeah if you can find it knock yaself out
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is it sittin in ya yard? or is it one u sent to the boneyard?
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ahh well i never owned it but did go to see it in epsom
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just a visit or view to buy? shit or mint?
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ahh how i remember it like a fleeting glimpse of sunshine in the middle of a dark forrest
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:swear_mad:
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it was a hot afternoon the last day june and the sun was a demon
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apart from u wanderin lonely as a cloud what happened then wordsworth?
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i met rod
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Black Rod?
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no he was white
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rod hull?
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no i could not see an emu
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my mums cat came from rod hull's cat, and i went and picked it up, but didnt see an 8 anywhere
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yeah he was tryin to see if he could see it from his house roof
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nasty
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Probably Rod, Jane and Freddy of Rainbow fame.
Bubba was the one that you thought was a man in a bear suit but it was just him with no clothes on Blues
Rainbow - Bungle's High and Mighty Day - Part Two (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HS5qQvs9iw#noexternalembed)
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Well its taken 10 months and a bit of welding but shes finally made it to the zinc bath, just need my parcel of bits from the states and in another 10 months i might actually have a rolling chassis :greggmo:
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talk to me about zinc bath, what does that do?
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nice one dave good for many years of fun now
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talk to me about zinc bath, what does that do?
read and learn!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanization (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanization)
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it kind of relaxes the frame, gives it a chance to rest and recuperate and look shiny too :icon_winkle:
you are such a muppet :greggmo:
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talk to me about zinc bath, what does that do?
read and learn!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanization (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanization)
u already told me as well :eusa_doh:
http://www.birtydastards.com/frm/index.php?topic=11938.0 (http://www.birtydastards.com/frm/index.php?topic=11938.0)
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It wont be shiny for long its going to get painted black with that gate paint that is favoured by the wrought iron people and sticks like crazy to galv, the inside can stay shiny though!.
Incidentally Bubba the chassis was rotten in two places,one was most of the outriggers where the water had collected under the body mounts and the other place was at the back where the second cross member in at the back (would be the bumper on a cj7) goes into the chassis. At that point the cross member must act as a bit of a water/mud trap just in front of the rear shackle mount, it might be worth a tap with the old hammer to check yours out as mine was rotten on one side and starting to go on the other side :icon_winkle:
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good info dave will check mine maybe flood it with oill from time to time
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circled the troublesome area was just the underside
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good man dave
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Different cave, same lighting... BUT shes a rolling chassis again :king:
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Now then just how much timing chain stretch can i get away with on a 258 engine?
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a rolling chassis :icon_eek:
never did i think i would see the day :003:
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i believe that is within tolerances Dave! if your not sure ask v8 skanker what he thinks? also while we are on have you ever had the feeling you have been fisted? and did he manage to retrieve his watch after he had finished? also where is Mr isle of man"KY"
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Now then just how much timing chain stretch can i get away with on a 258 engine?
that will teach u to go openin stuff
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Im glad i did, the old 4.2 is desperately in need of a rebuild or is it time for another Toyota Diesel just to annoy you Jeep purists :wave-fingersmiely:
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dont be such a ghay
an amc V8 is the way
ditch the diesel yota
it aint ever a jeep motor
and that my son is poetry, innit :003:
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Ill leave the V8s to you Bulldog you have them all anyway :icon_winkle:
4.2 is what she is and will be again after quite a bit of machining and an order from the States at vast expense :010:
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not got them all now :010:
handed over a 401 this mornin :010:
nice fella tho so it aint all bad, and he may be adding an 8 to his Bulldog Emporium shoppin list as well :greggmo:
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hmm interesting stuff sparKY engine had a full topend rebuild so the guy it came from reckoned inc a new old stock carb at alegedly huge expense this was the engine that was in my orange scrambler when first bought
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lateral play on a 4.2 timing chain from set up is 7/8" if that helps
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Thanks Nosebolt but i think that timing chain has more like 1" 7/8s nothing a new one wont sort out.
hmm interesting stuff sparKY engine had a full topend rebuild so the guy it came from reckoned inc a new old stock carb at alegedly huge expense this was the engine that was in my orange scrambler when first bought
Shame he didnt rebuild the bottom end at the same time then :icon_biggrin:
And does this mean that southern poofter has got old blues good engine in the orange one then :die:
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no the blue engine was well shot and went to james h years ago as a core for a stroker the engine you have as i say was in the orange jeep when bought and ran really well as suprising as that may sound looking at the chain panic can confirm this as he came to collect it with me from mertha tydvill
so when you bought blue i told you it had a lot of cash spent i was relaying the info i had been given and as i say it drove very well but i changed it for my own rebuilt engine when the tranny seal went
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yup I can confirm it ran really well,as bubba said
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Time to man up and bite the sexy bullet Sparky:
time to do it (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROLLS-ROYCE-6-75-V8-SPIRIT-ENGINE-breaking-whole-car-/290623657835?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43aa85176b#ht_500wt_1202)
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should have a :icon_super:th 400 on the back
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perhaps i shud man up then, how much of a squeeze will it be in a CJ ? :003:
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where the hells the chat box????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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it was decided that if any ghay fellas were doing random googles searches your chat box chatter would lead them here and we would be awash with them wantin to discuss your love of ky etc :003:
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Time for the bi yearly update
Engine rebuilt painted all shiny and sat in chassis with the shiny rocker cover courtesy of Micko
soon to be on axle stands because those offside tyres will belong to Maf very soon :icon_biggrin:
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ahhh bless, those engine look so dinky and cute when all exposed like that :003:
good work Dave, there may still be two 8's at CF yet :greggmo:
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good work Dave, there may still be two 8's at CF yet :greggmo:
Depends which CF 2014?
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Biyearly update time:
How to remove paint the easy way
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Looks like its been filled before :icon_eek:
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Its actually a lot worse than this photo shows its gonna cost a fair bit in panels to do it right :010:
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are ya goin for a show winning pony?
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no it wont be concourse, but i do want it to look original and like i have made an effort :greggmo:
Maybe a nice truck cab would finish it off :003:
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gold dust mate, gold dust I tell ya :003:
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Its no dodge ram...or j20 for that mater......and peter henry is a cross dressing oompalumpa faggot.
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someone in Toledo must of liked using the spot welder, it took me 2 hours to drill out 34 spot welds that held the reinforcing for the bulkhead today so we can properly mend the rusty hole that has developed where the accelerator mounts :jpshakehead:
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will be minty tho Dave
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The Toledo spot weld kid strikes again :jpshakehead:
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I like the way that the bolt has corroded down to about M8 but only where the captive nut is :greggmo:
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Man-a-live you have a glass back!!!
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yep its fitted to the diesel cj6 but the snorkel wins for noisiness :greggmo:
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Got me some new floor to go in :icon_biggrin:
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sticky back plastic?
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The Scrambler tub gets spit roasted :icon_eek:
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bit blurry but you get the idea
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I need a garage that big :icon_eek:
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Not my garage, its belongs to my friend who is going to patch that tub up. Hence the old VW Beetle in pieces in the background, ideal project for you that BD :003:
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No project is ideal for me :003:
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Wonder if you could fit a 401 into a Beetle :017:
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20 months update rebuild goes on with interior teaser shot :003:
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Oh and fitted my cupholder
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Looks v dusty
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They havent installed that new fangled electric in the North yet to run those Dyson thingymajigs we have to suck that dust up ourselves through a straw or wait for a windy day and push it up to the moors
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Good build thread sparky :greggmo: how about some more pics, how far off finishing are you :003:
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It still needs the exterior of the tub along with the wings,bonnet,bulkhead,tailgate,doors and roll bar painting by someone who knows what they are doing.
The dashboard needs to come out again so paint can go behind it and i have one or two wiring issues to sort out at the same time.
Then there is just the small matter of re-assembling it all back together and taking it for an MOT.
Another 24 months should do it :icon_rolleyes: