Birty Dastards Jeep Club
Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Eclipsed4ever on December 11, 2012, 09:50:57 PM
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Evening all. Just joined the site and thought I'd put up my YJ build which I'm currently spending all my time on.
It's a 93 YJ which was extensively modified before I bought it to roll on reconditioned Dana 60 axles, some massive johnny jointed 4 link suspension front and rear, 15" procomp shocks all round, brand new progressive coil springs, rock sliders, full CDS internal roll cage, tubular arches to match the axle width, new bucket seats with 4 point harnesses. I bought it like this, unfortunately with no engine/gearbox/props. I had previously bought a 1979 Cherokee Wagoneer which seemed to be quite a good donor. A proper AMC V8, for an all Jeep Wrangler :greggmo:
Since I've picked the truck up I've made a fair bit of progress. The engine is now fitted on custom mounts in order to raise it up as high as I could get it to clear the front suspension links. I've mounted a brand new radiator and huge electric fan with silicon hoses and aluminium pipes. I've built half an exhaust system in 2.5" steel (havent decided on how I want the exits to look yet - all suggestions welcomed!). The gear linkage is now in place, as is the high/low ratio selection. I've replaced the high pressure fuel pump which came with the truck with a low pressure 'ticker' pump. I'll probably use a solid state facet pump at a later date. The engine is now all wired up and starts absolutely smack on the key - not bad for a 33 yr old! The brakes are being dealt by a dual servo master cylinder from a '96 (I think) Cherokee with flexible stainless hoses.
The next job is to bleed up the brakes so they're done and dusted. Following that I'm waiting on my mates hydraulic pullers so I can remove the two yokes from the axles and fit 1310x joint yokes instead. This will allow me to use the cherokee props (modified) until I can afford something a bit beefier. Once I've fitted some tyres I should be able to actually move it then :icon_eek: Can't wait!
Before I had it:
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Now I've got it :) :
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Welcome to the forum.
I hate to say ths but that truck has history and a dubious past with a potential purchase. No doubt Wildwood and Warthog will bring you up to speed
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So that is where it has ended up. Was it you that had it up for sale on ebay?.
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Fuck its history, dana 60's and a AMC 360 :icon_super:
Nice fenders as well
Salutations mate, not many doods with them new fangled trucks have a proper engine so welcome to the elite engine owners :greggmo:
Small point tho - it would look much better with round headlights :003:
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Thing is when Warthog and I looked it had a Dana 61 which was made with a high as in low numbers ratio for fuel economy And you can't. Get. Them down to 4.10 or into the 5.38 realms to run 40's
aT the time it had the engine .....dubious Dodge 318 that wouldn't run right and a monster 205 transfer case with 1.98 to 1 ratio......
But.......
You got the good bit...... The body suspension and a nice built cage........ Adding a Jeep FSJ guts it great....... Congratulations........ Hope you win with the axle ratios
And welcome to Birtys......... We like a good build...... Especially with the correct compliment of cylinders under the hood :icon_super:
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Dubious past? Sounds interesting... No I wasn't the one with it on ebay, that was the guy I bought it off.
Anyone know who carried out the work on the suspension/cage as its been beautifully made?
lol cheers Bulldog, although personally, square lights rule :wave-fingersmiely: You will be pleased to know I've bought another wagoneer as well - d'oh!
Ok so apparently wildwood posted now!
Whats the difference between a D60 and a D61? So it had a low ratio axle before - as in less pinion turns to more wheel turns? The guy I bought it off said it used to have a Chevy in it, but I'm not sure if he ever saw it or he was just going on what he was told? Probably the latter...
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tell me about the waggy dood? keeper or breaker?
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Keeper for now - it's got 3 months test left, no tax. Good runner, LPG conversion, high/low ratio transfer box. Underneath is solid, body is a little...um... tasty in places but largely its not bad. The rear window even goes up and down! Unfortunately it's on pants tyres but they're legal. If it snows, its being taxed and coming out for a play! :icon_twisted:
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Dodge 316 when we saw it and he said 360 cam.....which we found. Out makes it run like a dog unless you do a bucket of other stuff.
dana61 and the running gear came from a Landranger ......a. Failure of a UK project vehicle done in the 80's
Probably 3.? To 1 ratio for economy...... Problem is most Dana 60's have the breakpoint at 4.10 down and 4.56 up
Ad can go as low as 7. 0 to 1 ratio although 5.38 or 5.13 is mathematically good for 40" tyres.
The rear is OK as it is a normal 60.....
We went to see it up the A1 can't remember the place but. They also have an army second hand vehicle centre next door. warthog will tell you the guys name.
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Ah right. Well that could prove interesting once its up on its wheels then. :steeringwheel:
Was that the guy that built it you went to see?
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tell me about the waggy dood? keeper or breaker?
Here we go.... sniff sniff sniff..... :jpshakehead:
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At least it's red! :icon_super:
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Keeper for now - it's got 3 months test left, no tax. Good runner, LPG conversion, high/low ratio transfer box. Underneath is solid, body is a little...um... tasty in places but largely its not bad. The rear window even goes up and down! Unfortunately it's on pants tyres but they're legal. If it snows, its being taxed and coming out for a play! :icon_twisted:
well dont go smashing this one up with a JCB :003: but if you do - I most definitely want the LPG :greggmo:
a waggy is the one AMC jeep yet to own
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Welcome,
Awesome build, keep us posted.
Cheers Maf
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Dave lea bought this yj to rob the engine, tyres geabox and some drivetrain bits. It had a dana 61 then and still has now. He knew nothing about the cars history then, but has managed to palm it off to you, if you can make it work, well done, could be a great truck.. Part from the headlights being the wrong shape :-)
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square lights rule :wave-fingersmiely:
You, Sir, speak the truth :icon_super:
Welcome to the 'Elite' Birty squadron :003:
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:iagree: you can't beat them and they don't roll off things and break when you take them out.
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:iagree: square lights not only look better but they're more user friendly :icon_biggrin:
Small update on the wrangler...
- Now finished all water pipes, filled with water + antifreeze, no leaks.
- Made a large part of the exhaust system. I'm keeping the two banks seperate firstly 'cause it's cool and secondly because there's hardly any room to join them together anyway. I have put a silencer in each half which has taken the edge off it but it is still quite loud. Only got the section under the bed left to made but a I'll just make it straight through and see if it's bearable for now.
- Connected up all brake pipes and bled up as required. No leaks first time :icon_biggrin:
- Connected up shifter cable. I'm using the shift stick which came with the truck. It's nice and compact and well positioned. Would of liked to of kept the column shift from the cherokee but hey ho.
- Put some olf tyres I had lieing around on and checked the rear axle ratio. I think its a little over 4 so it's pointing to 4.1 which would make sense for the D60.
- Made and fitted the rear prop. I've just cut down the original cherokee one for now. The 1310x yokes make this super easy once I could finally pull the old dastard off. The rear was seriously tight, had to steal my mates hydraulic pullers which struggled! I've yet to decide on the front prop. It's going to be pretty long so I was thinking of finding another cherokee rear, although I don't have a massive amount of room, so the diameter can't be too big. For now, she's just a 360 RWD :icon_twisted:
- The high/low ratio selector is in and connected up.
Now the brakes/water/fuel/exhaust is all largely completed, it may be time to pull her out of the shed for the first time this weekend. Will get an idea of the performance and gearing then, and of course make some noise/V8 music :icon_super:
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a front prop off a cj auto maybe your friend, nice and long and quite skinny too, I think Bullfrog may have one
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cheers willo, I'll get on his case...
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Well I'm hitting a bit of a wall at the moment. I had the truck running the other day the best it's run so far, when it backfired from the intake and stopped instantly. Since then I've been unable to get it to run properly. It just splutters and pops and bangs.
I firstly found that the distributer had chewed it's drive up causing it to only turn intermittently so I think this is what probably caused the initial back fire. I've now fitted another and retimed it all up and I'm confident this is correct.
It seems to be constantly overfueling. If I dry everything out, empty the carbs except a small bit of fuel, it will start and run then conk out as it runs out of fuel. As soon as I fill the carb it very quickly just bogs down and stops. If I pull the plugs out they're all always wet with fuel.
I'm not particularly experienced with carbs but is it possible something could of been damaged when it backfired when the dizzy failed?
Any help/advice much appreciated as it's doing my (Christmas) tree in now!
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what carb does it have? 2 or 4 barrel? how have you set the timming right without getting it to run? you can only get it close by statically timming it. is carb new or old one?
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It's got a Holley Truck Avenger fitted to it. When I say correct, only as far as I can get it without it running properly, i.e, TDC on compression stroke coincides with spark as well as possible. With only a small fit of fuel allowed into the carb, it starts and runs OK so I don't think it can be far off. It's when you allow more fuel to the carb it will bog down and stop on tickover. It will then just turn over and not start unless you apply throttle, which will sometimes get it to start. It is a second hand carb but preceeding the original back fire through the intake, it run really well. Started smack.
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Is it running standard fuel pump and inline filter between it and the carb itself.
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Low pressure ticker pump with inline filter...
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has the filter got the built in return to the tank ie 1 large inlet and 1 same diameter and 1 smaller diameter at the other end?
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Um nope. It's just straight through?
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sounds like the pump is too strong for the needle valves and hence forcing fuel pass them,hence the flooding engine you need to swap to a filter with the 3 outlets I think
something like this(http://www.drivetrainsuperstore.com/images/omix/1/17/17718.02.jpg)
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and order 2 of the buggers
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after you have sorted the fuel filter and return, check the fuel pump pressure, holley carb will want 5psi, but will tolerate 4-7.
I would eliminate 1 thing at a time.
Eclipsed4ever When are you trialing next with the awdc?, I did see you at West harptree the other day, I trial the red CJ7 and also run a amc 360 and holley truck avenger carb. My truck avenger pretty good off road, but I have picked up a second hand Rochester q/jet carb, once I have an addapter for the square bore intake I am going to give this a go, they are supposed to be a great carb off road
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Is the tank and pump still the YJ electric in-tank one ???
Cos a carb needs under 10 psi and the YJ pump supplies about 35 or more psi for its fuel injection.
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Annoyingly I can't find my pressure gauge yet so I'm yet to check what pressure I'm getting. The only thing I don't get if it is the pump, is how did it run fine before it backfired? It would start first turn over every time and quite happily sit there idling (I was in the process of fixing water leaks so hadn't got as far as revving it much). Anyway it's something I still need to check. As a matter of course I've ordered a rebuild kit for my truck avenger so I can rebuild it, that way I'll be happy that it's fine.
It's not the original YJ pump willwood. The trucks got a tank mounted in the pickup tub and I've mounted a low pressure 'ticker' pump externally as a temporary measure. It's annoyingly loud so I was going to replace it with a facet solid state pump when I get chance.
Ah that was you was it Jeepcj. I did notice you driving round. I was going to come over for a bit of a mooch but then they split the groups up :banghead: I've not heard of that carb? Where'd you find that from? You have to do much to set up your avenger? What gearbox/transfer box you using and how do you find your gearing?
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So many questions!!!!
Lets concentrate on the engine first and foremost....
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electric pumps were designed to feed multiple carbs or injections systems so altho you can fit them along with a pressure regulator they are seldom ideal for a single carb, they are not really variable like a mechanical pump that pumps relative to engine speed.
As to it idling fine , you probably did not realise that while it appeared to be doing that it was in fact overfueling hence the wet plugs,eventually it just becomes to much for the engine to deal and it becomes lumpy and or then backfires.
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My Iroks would fit nicely - but they're not getting abused by the V8. Think I should get away with anything upto 40"s :icon_biggrin:
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6 BOLT!!
I have some wheels here kicking about, would take £15gbp each if your interested?
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Unfortunately the axles are 8 bolt :icon_sad: The wheel is only leant up against it.
Everything else I have is 6 bolt though, I'll send ya a pm...
Yea thats quite possible panic. Just trying to find one of the 3 outlet filters. Hopefully I can find my pressure gauge then and get a correct fuel pressure to try. Really want to get her up and running over the xmas break!
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i hope to be proved wrong but i reckon the backfire has had sex with ya carb
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lol. As much as I'm hoping it could be excessive fuel pressure, I have a feeling you may be correct... but I hope your wrong :icon_rolleyes:
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Quadrajets are great offroad....... Sometimes called hillbilly fuel injection....... Can be run reversed apparently this helps with fuelling offroad.....
Even tho most SBC V8s will need no more than 600 CFM carbs the Quadrajets is rated at 800 (I think)? So good for a SBC or 500ci of caddy mill...... The trick is that they are vacuum controlled so it will only supply what the vacuum of the engine requires......therefore no over fuelling......
As usual just my 2 cents worth....... :icon_super:
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Slap fule injection on it!!
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And with Megajolt and Megasquirt being cheap DIY and computer modifyable......there is no reason not to embrace it.
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Injection is certainly a possibility although I was hoping to keep everything simple with 1 good carb. This is my first real carb motor I've had any dealings with and so far it's been a bit of an arse. I'd much prefer injection. I will give it a little more tinkering time though.
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Tinley Tech.....house of Propane LPGinjection....... Basically turns any motor into propane injection and forget the unleaded bit........maybe you answer then........ Just a ring and bits on top of ya carb and your sniffing LPG.....
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That sounds just like whats on top of my Wagoneer. Thats just a different intake bolted to the top of the standard carb with a mixer and hey presto!
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More anorak info I picked up from Feck nose where :hysterical:
LPG on 360 AMC......
10 degree advance timing..... Remove vacuum advance hose...
Cooler spark plugs..
IMPCO 42.5 Carb 394 CFM
hope this helps... :icon_super:
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impco is the best route short of proper injection
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Still struggling with this thing :icon_rolleyes:
Since my last update:
-Checked fuel pressure, all OK.
-Rebuilt carb with rebuild kit.
-Checked dizzy timing again, seems fine.
-Tonight checked the timing chain as apparently american V8's suffer with these as there's no tensioner. Annoyingly, it seems fine (see below).
-Next... um? The skip if it keeps it up! :011:
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Well I've finally made progress. I've been on holiday for a week skiing in Canada which gave me a break as I was almost ready to set light to the damn thing. :die:
However... I had a tinker yesterday. I've put the front of the engine back on following checking the timing. All new gaskets so it's one less thing to worry about in the future. I had a thought on the plane (which is going to be quite obvious in a minute) that when my dizzy died originally and it caused the backfire, well since then I've only tried the engine with a dizzy from an engine which I've never had running. Well I have now replaced the timing gear on he crankshaft, and the timing gear which was chewed up on the dizzy. I refitted the dizzy yesterday and mirraculously... ITS ALIVE! :jump_125: Blues
She runs pretty smooth again like she did before, although it does idle a little high and doesn't rev much. This will probably be just setting up timing and the carb. Finally I can get on with it again! :003:
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Now she's running I've put all the nose back on, bled up the water system and filled with fluids.
For the first time she's moved under her own power out of the shed :greggmo:
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Now it runs and moves, the next list of jobs...
- find a wiring diagram to connect up gauges although I might fit some aftermarket ones I have here (off my single seater but I never use them).
- wiring diagram for the alternator and connect up.
- find something to make the front prop from.
- install a fan switch and wire up fan. I've contemplated just reintalling the viscous fan... any thoughts?
- find some tyres that are bigger than rollerskates.
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never had a prob with a YJ viscous fan.....in 17 years......(feck me where those years go :jpshakehead:)
Leccy ones annoy me cos you can hear them..........but if behind rad and in good surround case thing they will work well if rad isn't quite up to it.....
Your rad looks good and large for the job......
40's are gonna look good on that......... :icon_twisted:
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what size tyres are ya goin to?
coz of my overheatin probs i have read a zillion threads on 360's and fans, and i would say approx 75% that convert to the taurus (mondeo) twin elec fan set up are v happy with it, but there is 25% they say it was pointless and return to the viscous
my probs were about air flow when the winch was on, so elec makes more sense to pull it thru
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I might just swap it back to the viscous fan to be honest. It's simpler so less to go wrong. It's only 3 bolts if I change my mind to put the electric one back on. The radiator is the biggest I could physically fit in there. Theres about 5mm to the bonnet and the bottom just hangs below the front crossmember.
I'm hoping for around 37's. Anything round there would be good, but 37's would fit between the two backstays so I could put a spare on the rear easy. Money is the biggest problem unfortunately so that may very well dictate size!
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yeah Im stockpiling 35's as the financial leap to 37's doesnt justify the extra 2" - well not to me anyway
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Have a bit of an update...
The truck is now running. Not quite right, it's got quite a serious miss and is currently a bit gutless, but it's not been set up yet. Just some rough timing and fueling.
I've refitted the original viscous fan in the interest of keeping things simple.
Today I ordered some sensors for the original engine so that I can use the original temperature and oil pressure gauges.
Last week I picked up my extended prop from Proptech near Kidderminster. They did a very nice job to be fair. £70 which included a new joint the one end.
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The truck is now 4WD. When I first tried it the centre difflock didn't work due to a knackered diaphram in the actuator. I've now replaced this and the centre difflock now works as it should.
The gearing is pretty good. I know some people were a bit sceptical with the axles which are under it, but I think it's going to be perfectly useable. First is a mere crawl, second seems pretty short in low box to, and flat out third can't be more than maybe 25mph. Coupled with an autobox and the mighty 360, I don't think it's going to struggle to make a mess :greggmo:
So, jobs remaining before the mud can fly:
- find some mud terrains. 35" minimum. Preferably 37's (anyone got something let me know)
- sort out missfire
- wire up alternator
- connect up gauges with new senders
- fit expansion bottle
- mount battery
- mud proof hat? :017:
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where you based ?
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Near Hay-on-Wye, whys that?
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you use my fave prop place :icon_biggrin:
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Bit of an update on this.
I've just fitted a brand new alternator as the old one gave up the ghost. It probably went into shock after doing nothing for an eternity!
I've also replaced my truck avenger carb with a 600cfm Holley 4 barrel and this has instantly solved the missfire. It not revs out as it should as it seems very lively :greggmo: The gearing is spot on. Low box is ideal for crawling and it pushes on nicely in high box. Not sorted a speedo out yet though.
The gauges now all work with new senders to suit the original gauges.
I've bought a vacuum changeover valve to use to switch the centre diff in an out. I just need to run a vacuum line to it and a switch wire, connect up the feedback cable and I'll have a switch and a light for the centre difflock.
I took the truck out the other day for a bit of a play and it has a massive amount of travel, except the rear springs fall out as the axle articulates. I'm going to make a couple of dislocation cones and a clamp for the rear springs and that should solve that problem.
The exhaust needs extending to the rear and a couple of extra braces. Once that's complete I'll heat wrap it to protect a few choice bits and pieces.
I've now bought some tyres. Unfortunately they're only 35" Simexs but they'll do for now.
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At an event near us soon then
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Yup shouldn't be too long hopefully. First event will probably be Orienteering day with Midwest Offroad Club next month at Cleeve Hill.
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Much more like it :greggmo:
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sweet :greggmo:
just the headlights to sort.....
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Headlights work and look fine to me :-P
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Is this the one Mark looked at?
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Oh yes indeedy :icon_super:
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Clee hill ?
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Is this the one Mark looked at?
Mark??
http://www.midwestoffroaders.co.uk/index.php?pr=Calendar (http://www.midwestoffroaders.co.uk/index.php?pr=Calendar) Cleeve Hill...
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Three shots of Mark ....aka Warthog when we viewed.......
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Ahh cool beans... it looks like I'm slowly returning it to that condition lol! Did it have a chevy in there at that point?
As of this evening, new shoes!
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Looking good.
it had a Dodge 318 that we were told had a 360 cam????? A bit of research told us that was a no no......
glad you didn't inherit that :icon_twisted:
look forward to seeing it at Cheapfest?
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Ah yea thats right I do vaguely remember hearing of a dodge 318. Fools :lol_hitting:
I'm not sure. Not got that far ahead. Perhaps!
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thats a cool looking rig
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:imwitstupid: and I need a farm :011:
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Little bit of an update...
We did a punch hunt which went well, we won our class (we may of been the only ones in it :P ). Everything held together and we had a good giggle.
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Since then little has changed, until now...
I've now sold the Simex's and invested in some proper rubber. Isle of Mans 42" x 14" Iroks on Allied Alloy wheels with beadlocks, should do the trick. The beadlocks were pretty tatty so I've had them all off today and tidied them up.
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Will be fitting tomorrow 8)
Also completed the exhaust today with new gaskets and finishing off the rear end. She's got quite a rumble now - LOVE IT!
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Added some extra bars to protect the doors and strap the soft top down to.
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Next I need to have a bit of a fiddle with the carb as on steep downhills it floods the engine on tickover then won't start without removing the fuel relay.
Install the washer bottle so I can wash the window.
Sort out the rear lights and indicators.
Hopefully I've also fixed the gearbox leak, new gasket and seals on a few bits and pieces... will test asap.
Planning on coming to make a mess Sunday at CF :icon_super:
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Cool, look forward to seeing it in the flesh
And fuck me you work quick :icon_eek:
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I did say the lock rings are beat-up, hope they work for you.
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They weren't actually that bad. Just surface corrosion mainly on two of them. They soon cleaned up anyways. I've no doubt they're not going to look clean/tidy for long!
Looking forward to getting her in the mud!
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ACE!
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After a slight oversight I had to order some new wheelnuts for the alloys. 32 US 1/2" Mag nuts later and I was back in business...
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Things are a little tight past the rear springs and the front is a pretty good fit. I've bought some spacers to sort the rear out but for CF she should be fine. I'll just try and stay away from too many cross axles.
I've also finished off the soft top, had a play with the carb (seems better on hills but yet to be completely convinced), fiddled with the gear linkage as I struggle to select '1' although I'm sure it used to?!
Very much looking forward to having a blast at cheapfest this weekend :greggmo:
See you all there!
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HUBBA HUBBA looking like its in the blocks.
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What carb are you running, I've had my MC2100 at some pretty obscure angles without issue. I did however have an issue with fuel pickup and starvation if left at an angle for too long with a non full tank. Fixed this by running a commercial diesel style fuel filter up by the engine, this gives me around 1 litre at all times.
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Um, Its a 4 barrel Holley at the moment. Not had any problems on side slopes or up hill. It was flooding on steep downhills though. I've lowered the float slightly now and I think it's a little better. My pump sucks right from the middle of the tank so it does get most of it out before giving up. Unfortunately that doesn't always take long with the V8!
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We had a good day out at cheapfest the other week. It was good to meet some of you and put some names to faces.
Anyways... on the day things largely went well. The new tyres catch the rear springs slightly and on full lock they just catch the front arms. I've now fitted some 30mm spacers to the rear which should solve this. The fronts arn't too bad but once I've sorted a few other bits and pieces I'll buy some more for the front.
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My biggest concern has been the persistent ATF leak. I've narrowed down the constant leak to the sump gasket. I've put a new gasket on already but this doesn't seem to of solved it. It's also had quite a severe leak whenever the truck is on a steep uphill so yesterday I decided I'd had enough, so I pulled the transfer box out and found this:
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There is no gasket between the quadratrac and the th400 adapter which seemed a little strange, although I thought maybe this area isn't 'wet' anyway. After removing the adapter I found this:
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Now I've never really looked at the output of a TH400 but on first investigation I thought the casting had been broken. Hey presto, thats why it leaks like a sieve! To make sure I checked out my spare TH400 but alas, that was exactly the same. With the casting in the shape it was, I could see that the area between the adapter and the quadratrac was indeed wet. I knocked up a gasket with some gasket paper and fitted that but when testing yesterday this doesn't seem to of worked. With all the covers off though I could clearly see this was exactly where it was coming from though. I plan on swapping the transfer box with my spare as I don't have a good record with new gaskets!
Another issue I've hopefully bottomed out is the centre difflock not staying in. I figured as it's vacuum operated, when the vacuum drops, i.e engine load rising and falling, it may of been letting off of the difflock. For this reason I've now fitted a one way valve so once the vacuum has built up, it should be held.
Lastly I've welded up the rusty hole in the torque converter cover. Should help stop blowing the oil drip over everything!
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I did have a bit of a play whilst 'testing' yesterday to :icon_biggrin: It would seem the carb is much more forgiving now. Downhill there was no spluttering at all. Only on a very steep uphill whilst giving it some welly did I manage to get a hesitation. Some more tweaking required...
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I love driving this thing! :icon_twisted:
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HUBBA HUBBA!!!
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:iagree: What a beast!!
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looking good and dare I mention windscreen washers :icon_winkle:
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Lol yea washers are on the list still. I've got the bottle and pump, just need to fit it! Will be there before the next event!
I also forgot to post these...
Coney Green mud hole. Lee Pritchard - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxTXzb0RjTg)
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Ooo there was someone (sorry I don't know who) who got some photos in the same hole as the third one above after they pulled me out (d'oh). Just wondering if they could send them me/post on here?
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V8 burble :icon_super:
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Do you remember what that is? :greggmo:
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I shall tell Jim u said that :icon_eek:
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Last time I saw a red YJ do that, I left my rear prop behind........ :banghead:
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Thankfully I've not left too many bits behind... yet.
Has anyone made a roof that joins nicely to the windscreen/doors yet? I don't think my soft top is going to last very well and as I haven't got the frame for it there are gaps above the doors. I was thinking of cutting off the two bars the roof goes to at the moment, then mount them against the door seals to both protect the door and make a roof line.
I haven't decided if I should make an aluminium room and bolt it down - this will also cause problems with not being able to weld any edges :icon_rolleyes: Or, I could make a sheet steel roof and then I can weld any edges, it's just a bit more ugly.
Any advice peeps?
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It was me! I pulled you out.
That's right folks the Old XJ on its last outing (replaced with ZJ now) pulled out this beast.
PM me your email address and I will see what pics I got.
Steve my co pilot got some as will, I will get them.
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Lol. Yes I can confirm that to be correct! Much obliged Jay!
Does anyone know what the small hole+gulley are for on the input face of the transfer box is for? It's to the bottom left of the input as shown on the photo. I suspect this is where I'm getting oil pissing out of with the truck facing up hill. Is it some sort of overflow or something?
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My gasket would appear to of sealed all the way around the main round chamber which makes me think this must be where it was coming from. Depending on what it is I was contemplating ramming a bolt up it? #bodge
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Well I thought stuff it earlier so I tapped the hole, and rammed a bolt up it with some locktite. Refitted the transfer box and went for a spin... NO LEAKING!
Alas, I did find another weak spot...
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So thought I best do something about it...
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Hopefully that will last until I get round to converting to full hydro steer - something that she desperately needs!
Oh and a bit of playing before I bent the steering arm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp1nhfw41Vo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp1nhfw41Vo)
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Hi, just read this, you'll find that the qtrac box has two seals on the gearbox side, one to keep the ATF in the box, the other to keep qtrac fluid in the qtrac case, you've probably got a bad seal on the gearbox side, the hole is between the two seals and in event of a leak stops fluid cross contamination by dripping, you may now get ATF in your qtrac which may cause a problem later. Mine does same thing, plan to change the seal next time the qtrac is out.... It's very easy to damage the seal when you put the qtrac onto the humongous th400 output shaft.
Sorry to be a bit late, I would take that bolt out or change the seal, internal parts for qtracs are rare if you damage something like the clutch cones, just trying to help, not be a smart ass after the event
PJ
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Hi PJ
Not at all, any advice much appreciated! When I was tapping it I noticed that it went through to by the seals so I sort of guessed it might be a tell tale or something. It's good to have it confirmed though, at least I know what I'm up against now. At least it's a reasonably easy job to get the Tx out.
Are either/both the seals swapped from the outside in, or the inside out of the quadratrac?
Does anyone know if lighthouse would keep service parts for a quadra trac? Or anyone else?
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From what I can remember you can put both seals in from outside the case, remember the seals face in different directions to keep the right oil in the right place, drift the inner one just past the hole and the outer one not too far in so it doesn't block the hole.
Lighty's do a qtrac gasket and seal kit which isn't pricey that has the seals in. If you want a laugh ask them how much for a genuine morse chain for a qtrac, I think they only have one, and nobody makes them any more, so it could be the last one in the uk, maybe the world!
Suggest you phone a friend to help you put the qtrac back without damaging the seal or guide it on with some really long bolts attached to the adapter, this is all in the fsm for jeep fsj's, in the qtrac section, not that obvious if you don't know about it.
Don't chase your tail trying to stop th400s leaking, unless the ATF is pouring out, not worth the effort IMHO, they love to leak.
Good luck, love the jeep by the way
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Good stuff. Cheers for the info. Although, "...this is all in the fsm for jeep fsj's, in the qtrac section, not that obvious if you don't know about it..." where is this?
Seal kit ordered from lighthouse, £17 or something. Should have the leak bottomed out next week :icon_winkle: I'll be setting up a trial with her next weekend then so hopefully all will be leak free.
So now the mystery leak has been identified... next I'm thinking washers, spring retainers (try and stop the banging every time they dislocate on the front, its proper annoying), maybe some roof? Oh and some rear lights/indicators when I get round to it.
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Sent you a pm!
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Cheers for the help PJ, it would appear we're all fixed now. I had the transfer box off again yesterday (hopefully for the last time). Fitted the new seals and lifted the box back in. After a quick burn it looks like there's no more ATF pissing out on a slope - it still leaks from somewhere else but hey ho, I'm learning that this is the Jeep way.
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Today I've started building a steel roof as the soft top is already looking a bit sorry for itself. I've made up some brackets to support the windscreen to the roll cage. These will act as mounts for the roof also. I've got a plan in my head of how to make it so this afternoon I picked up a sheet of 2mm steel, ready for tomorrow.
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I've also fitted a washer bottle and pump today. Following the visibility issues at cheapfest I thought it'd be wise. It's all in and piped, I'm just on the hunt for the connections for the original bottle. A pair of new wiper blades then and we'll be away!
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I also received this it the post the other day... very proud :icon_biggrin:
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I would strongly recommend an exo cage that protects the windscreen and bulkhead......
How do I know these things :jpshakehead:
I Believe you saw the damage :hysterical:
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Was that your XJ then willwood? I will look at adding the cage as I progress with the truck. The front wings have already taken some damage from a pesky tree so they may be in line for an upgrade. So far the rear has survived.
The roof has gone well today. It's all on there and bolted down. Done some door shut seals to and added a rear 'anti-rain-down-the-neck' panel. All I have left to do is spray the panel black but unfortunately I run out of time. I'm setting up a trial at Bodenham near Hereford tomorrow with it so it'll have to do for now. Should take some more abuse than the soft top though. I'll get some photos of it all in the light tomorrow, no doubt along with some mud!
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My POS was the 1 Ton YJ on the trailer..... Big red Ram in front.......
I burst it after 4 hrs.......pesky trees........did the prop the leaf spring and bulkhead and screen..
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Ah yes I do vaguely recall. Oops! :jpshakehead:
I've nearly finished the roof. It's all built and has already received some abuse, but as yet, no paint.
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It survived the weekend well, unlike certain other parts... my front prop decided it would give up when we were setting up on the Saturday. I wasn't hugely impressed with how it broke. There was barely any metal there and it just wound the end off. Thankfully a welder wasn't too far away so I gave it a second life.
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The only other issue I had was a split water hose - again. The only original hose on the engine isn't very special. Gonna be replacing with some new silicon.
All in all I had a good laugh trialling it on the Sunday - I think it was my highest ever score! I probably annihilated the most trees I ever have as well. Hey ho, there's plenty left!
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I've been given the go ahead for nabbing my mates hydraulic ram so I'm gonna start looking at mounting that to the front axle. I was going to give the standard power steering pump a go at running the system. Just keeping my eyes out for a suitable danfoss unit now and we'll be well on the road to full hydro-steer :97:
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Anyone know a good supplier of track rod ends to fit the high steer arms on the Dana 60 that i can use to make some track rods?
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Well I've started my hydrosteer conversion. I've got a ram identical to the one I use on my trialler so when funds allow I'll get another one made as a spare for both trucks. It's has a 6" stroke, 40mm rod, 60mm bore and M20 rose joints. I'm going to use the standard track rods to join to the high steer arms. They're pretty big so should take the abuse and as I'm not sure how well the high steer arms would weld, I decided not to use rose joints the same as the trialler.
I've looked at various truss's from Artec and alike as well as customs but I'm not going to that extent. A lot of them seem to be a little overkill and reduce clearance in front/behind the axle tube. It already has a mild truss on the front which I'm going to use as the main joint for the ram mount but I will also add a few extra bits to aid keeping it where I want it. As long as your not a prick driving a D60 should cope I'm sure.
I'm using 6mm plate steel to make up the main mount, the gussets will be the same. I'm planning on running a bar from either end of the axle up across the front of the ram to help steady things. The track rods I'm just going to chop up the current steering rods. I was hoping to maintain the mechanical steering to a certain extent but on closer investigation, the hydro bracketry will be in the way and it would be more hassle than it's worth keeping it.
Well I've got the main plate tacked up today. The ram is nice and high so it should be clear of any rocks. It is going to make things pretty tight with the rad on full bump though. I may have to look into some additional bump stops rather than just the shocks. I could lower the ram but this will mean the track rods will have to raise up if I stick with the track rod ends. I could use rose joints but this will mean trying to weld to the (I believe hardened) high steer arms. I can't use a clevis joint as the arms are at the same angle as the kingpin.
Anyway, pikkys...
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Trying to figure out what height I need the ram at.
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Tacked up :)
I haven't actually got a danfoss unit yet which is another reason for wanting to keep the mechanical steering but I can probably deal without moving it until I get one. For financial reasons I'm just going to go with a bog standard one for now, no reaction will be fine. When I get chance I'll upgrade it to a reaction one to improve at speed manoeuvres. I can pick one of these up for about £75.
I already have a load of hydraulic pipes made up left over from the trialler. It's only 2 to go from the danfoss to the ram anyway. I'm using the standard power steering pump for now and we'll see how that copes. If it struggles I'll bump it up to a proper group 2 hydraulic pump.
Next job... some gussets and tube round the front if I can find something suitable lieing around. Then track rods. Then try and get a danfoss here and with that in it'll be almost time to test it! :icon_biggrin:
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Done a bit more work on the hydro steer today. First thing this morning was to check clearance on full bump as I was having second thoughts about where I'd mounted the ram yesterday. As much as I'm not likely to get to full bump, when the red mist descends anything can happen.
Jeep at full bump:
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It was worth checking as the ram fowled on the rad. Could of been an inconvenient mess!
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So I tilted the ram down which shifted it out of alignment of the holes on the high steer arms meaning I also moved it closer into the axles. All in all the ram is a bit lower and a bit closer to the axle so it should even be a little stronger now. The arms would now also pass the chassis rails - useful!
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Now happy with the position, I fitted some gussets to the existing truss and knocked up a bar to go round the front. The bar is mainly for added protection rather than strength. The ends of the ram should be sufficiently protected from any subordinate rocks/trees.
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When everything looked good I zapped it up - well from the top. I've yet to drop the axle to weld everything up underneath.
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As I havent a steering valve yet I refitted the mechanical steering bars which seems to fit nicely by the hydro mount :icon_biggrin:
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Still on the lookout for a valve so I can complete the install...
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nice work! positional welding sucks...... Upside down stuff to non welders!.... burnt some new holes in the overalls today doing just that.... :icon_twisted:
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nice work! positional welding sucks...... Upside down stuff to non welders!.... burnt some new holes in the overalls today doing just that.... :icon_twisted:
Is that when all the hot bits fall into your overall sleeves, burning your elbow as you jump and smash your head into the axle? Or is that just me?
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Yea I hate welding upside down - try to avoid it wherever possible. You get rained on by hot poo and (certainly mine) welds are usually poop to boot. All in all it's poop!
Took a bit of a break from fiddling with the steering this weekend, I decided to tidy up some of the wiring. There were quite a few dingly danglies under the dash so I've tied up/removed them as required. I also connected up the new washer bottle to the factory wiring so I can at least wash the window now! :D
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I took the drivers seat out and fitted my new special hi-tech titanium nitro drivers seat.
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With the new seat it, I now had access to the main cage which in the usual manner of drifting from job to job led to fabricating a new firewall. Some 2mm steel should provide adequate protection, certainly better than the fresh air of before.
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I'd previously been planning to fit an alloy fuel cell but I was struggling to find one with the right dimensions to fit nicely without having a custom one made. During the head scratching I decided that the fuel tank I already had would fit quite nicely turned around and butted up against the new firewall. So, that's what I did...
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Another benefit of this is swapping the filling neck to the drivers side, the same as the shogun, making it easy to fill in petrol stations whilst also getting diesel :wink:
I just need a couple of elbows to move the filler and repipe/wire up the fuel pump and the move will be done. I also need to get the firewall back out to spray black at the same time as the roof and the axle/hydro steer. This will pretty much be the next job.
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Had a reasonably busy day today. Firstly I went to a mates place to pull apart an old tractor in order to recover the steering valve. As they say it's not what you know it's who you know. Freebie valve :) Looks like it will do the job nicely to.
So when I got back first job was to finish off the mount. I removed the lower links, the prop and the shocks and rolled the axle over enough to weld it up.
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I'm keeping the Jeep steering column so set to joining my new valve to the end of it. With a bit of shortening and a wee bit of modification to the joint to squeeze it down a little more it went together lovely.
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I fabbed up a new mount for the steering valve and once in place welded it in.
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Annoyingly I haven't got the right fittings for the valve yet as they're something odd. Should be getting some adapters tomorrow so until then I couldn't put it all in.
With the steering valve and the ram ready, all that's left is pipework and track rods. I've knocked up two rods but I've now run out of welding gas so for now its only tacked. They're a bit agricultural but they're a similar design to my trialler which I've had no problems with. I checked the movement lock to lock and that all looks good. The ram has marginally too much travel so I'm going to have to fit lock stops..
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Nearly done :)
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I picked up some fittings for the steering box on Thursday and it turns out they're M18 fine. Makes sense for a reasonably new valve.
Bolted all the valve in and piped it up. Annoyingly one of the hydraulic pipes needs the 90 degree fitting turned round. Anyway, filled her up with oil and fired it up... Wahey! We have movement!
With a bit of bleeding I got most of the air out the system and it all seems to work well. I've got a bit of tidying up to do and paint the axle And we'll be done.
All in all its been a pretty cheap conversion:
£120 for the ram
£20 worth of fittings
£free hydro valve
£free hydraulic pipes
Very pleased so far. Will find out at the turkey hunt just how well it works.
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Well after a reasonably successful day at the turkey hunt I'm confident the steering will survive. The only issue I had was the bolts coming loose by the end of the day.
I'm going to add two strips of steel for the ram to push against so the bolts arn't under any pressure. Some nylocs might not be a bad idea either.
One nice surprise was that the steering does in fact return to centre. Good stuff as it means I won't need to swap it out in the future.
Next job is tidy it all up. The axle needs painting and both the track rods could be a little more pleasing to the eye.
For now I'm going to use the PAS pump, it seems to cope. In the future I'm thinking of running a tandem hydraulic pump to do the steering and a good quality front winch. That's probably a way away yet though so hopefully it'll survive until then.