Birty Dastards Jeep Club
Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: wildwood on February 19, 2013, 02:26:32 PM
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After looking at bling winches at Donington at the weekend.....by mind has been swayed by certain bits that might be of use.....or not?????
1. Switch to plasma...? A good idea on a 8274, the proponents say yes..... And Tis virtually essential on a challenge,
So I am told....
2. After an evening of anorak research.....came across www.delta-tek.co.uk (http://www.delta-tek.co.uk) for air release free spooling drum. the videos and how to fit sell the product big time and now I don't have an ARB in front I have spare ARB solenoid and air to make it work.
This drum mod will make plasma obligatory so together not a cheap mod.....but being a lover of effective engineering and stuff that makes like easier I am sore tempted :icon_twisted:
3. Am throwing this in. As a devil sitting on yer shoulder type of thing.....
For less wedge I could fit a cable equipped superwinch on the back?????
and so ends my lunchtime brainfart give us yer thoughts......anyone got air release drum????. cos of the cost this might just not happen immediately or soon after :hysterical:
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Having just got an 8274 and planning an air system I'd be interested in this air freespool system (depending on price, it might have to wait).
Have also just seen the price of long plasma for the 8274 :icon_eek:
Rear winch is handy but they don't seem to get loads and loads of use so I'm pondering if it's worth it? :017:
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How strange, I have been looking at them as a club member here has one allegedly - will have a gander and report back. Could be a group buy option!!!
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£399 for the drum
£299 for the plasma.
outch
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Nick from Delta-Tek is very nice guy with second to none customer service, I was an earlier adopter of his 8274 freespool, very well made and reliable. As part of Jeep rebuild I'm swapping short drum for 3" extended drum version plus I am also replacing my rear TDS with a wide drum 8274, if front winch dies I want to be able to move rear to rear. Very highly recommended. For info, if anybody is thinking of an 8274 I'm selling a TJ 8274 custom bumper and possibly a Warn XP motor that will speed up an 8274.
Cuffy
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All challenges run to MSA regs will not let you run steel, only plasma so its down to where you want to run
seen the freespool and its seems to work ok
rear winch lets you do lots of extra stuff but does change the class you run in :icon_winkle:
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I think Big Patrol had a freespool on his TJ he will be able to tell you if its any good :icon_winkle:
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At that price it will have to be added to my list of nice-to-haves. I can get my Jeep to where I want it for the price of that freespool.
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I will be the devil :icon_twisted: on your shoulder. Buy a Red Winch Hornet, you know you want to. They are sooooooo nice, I want i want i want
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I will be the devil :icon_twisted: on your shoulder. Buy a Red Winch Hornet, you know you want to. They are sooooooo nice, I want i want i want
Say bye bye to fishing gear Rob oh and a Kidney
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Imho..I reckon you will want both..but you willl need a rear winch before you need a freespool..
A freespool is great on a timed section or if your bitch has just waded through 3ft of shite and scarmbled 20ft up a bank to get you hooked up.. :icon_super: .
But there has been a couple of times at West Harptree where I would never have been able to get a punch without a rear winch even with someone behind with a front winch, and again the wrong line and where I ended up meant a rear winch would get me out quickly but more so, I recently went in too deep, couldnt get out and had to wait 10mins for someone to pull me out cos my rear winch had packed in..in the meantime everything got full of kack while I waited, whereas if the rear was working I couldve just pulled myself out quick and saved some bits and fluids..A rear winch does put you up a class though as Steve said..
My tanners worth..
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Sooooo. lunchtime project...... :icon_biggrin: Found some poly pipe and repaired my On Board Air system so it doesn't leak...... Run a line to my ARB solenoid and all is sweet.......
only prob? :hysterical: No ARB on the front since I went 1 Tonne....Detroit down there... :jpshakehead:
looks like I may just have to go Air free spool....... :icon_super: Getting addicted to fine engineering solutions
Although appreciate what you say about rear winch.......got nose down in the goop at CF and needed a winch out from Willo......
here's a head up on a good system......Saley winches..... look like an 8274 but serious hydraulic off your Crank via a dog clutch..... As fast as a GP but maybe more bulletproof....
Sadly no website but lots of chatter on the web should you choose to google :icon_twisted:
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I run air free spool front and rear. The difference is like chalk and cheese. I could never go back.
Gigglepin invented the freespool and they sell them as a direct bolt on to you existing 8274. Very easy to fit and all self contained. Give Jim a call on 01732463600.
As for rope I use david Bowyers bowrope, in 11mm if you look after it and wash it after every event it will last, its a bit cheaper than plasma too.
Saley winches are great as long as you appreciate the load that is on them as unlike an electric motor you won't hear when it is straining
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How many of u want to buy a freespool drum? I will ask the question
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£399 on the bay from Delta Tek so any few squid off that much appreciated......
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here's a head up on a good system......Saley winches..... look like an 8274 but serious hydraulic off your Crank via a dog clutch..... As fast as a GP but maybe more bulletproof....
Sadly no website but lots of chatter on the web should you choose to google :icon_twisted:
Extra tank (for oil) tubes all over the place, coolers and when a leak happens you can't see shit for the mess!!!!!
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The only trouble with hydro winches is if you get stuck and the engine dies you are fooked.
I saw this at the weekend, Landy V8 failed to climb out of a muddy hole, cos he was vertical no fuel to the carb so V8 cut out
No power to winches, he had to dive in and get someone to winch him back but in the meantime all of the oil had run out of his V8
Was not a happy bunny, but if he had leccy winches they would have worked till the battery/ batteries died
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I will be going rear winch soon :greggmo:
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Yup..... 8 years of dependable but....SLOW milemarker.....and I am now a leccy convert........don't come cheap tho...... Hot rodding 8274s and all..... :hysterical: :icon_super:
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Yup..... 8 years of dependable but....SLOW milemarker.....and I am now a leccy convert........don't come cheap tho...... Hot rodding 8274s and all..... :hysterical: :icon_super:
Good man...
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Just got myself a Delta Tek freespool just fitting it at the moment for this years playin.
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Let us know if its as easy as the video clip makes out.......and if you had to do any spacing type things to get smoooothoperation.....
Hope it goes well :icon_super:
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Just got myself a Delta Tek freespool just fitting it at the moment for this years playin.
Let me know how you get on with it....
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Cleggy,
does this mean you are delaying body tub replacement?
Cuffy
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No its next years project the tub, looks like im staying with the jeep engine carnt afford to go LS and ATLAS :icon_sad: so just collecting parts(new wheels, tyres,just got some spare axles)just need to find an auto box which auto you going with.Somthing like this with minimal body work.
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No its next years project the tub, looks like im staying with the jeep engine carnt afford to go LS and ATLAS :icon_sad: so just collecting parts(new wheels, tyres,just got some spare axles)just need to find an auto box which auto you going with.Somthing like this with minimal body work.
Diablo do a weld to the chassis frame, looks like my Buggy from the top - worth a look!
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Get a bomber fab chassis
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project Loose change will be based loosely on that tube concept :icon_super:
MOCAJ's tub....dice and slice..
TJ chassis ....I got.....more cut and weigh in
Tube bender
Some CDS......
metal glue
Lot of time.......spent plagiarising Pirate........ Tis built in me head......just can't drive it :jpshakehead:
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Cleggy,
At some point I'll start a build thread when I take some decent pics and have more time. Regarding the gearbox, initially I was intending to go down the AW4 route however eventually opted for a TH350, passing on the AW4 plus all the bits to fit AW4 to a TJ to Willo - we've been trading bits on and off for a while. Now lots of folks are going to say fitting a TH350 to 4.0L I6 is a stupid thing to do, however: 1) at somepoint I may choose to go with a Chevvy Engine, 2) Stroke the 4.0L (I have a complete Cherry to play with), 3) the TH350 is a good deal shorter than the AW4, 4) its stronger, 5) doesn't rely upon electrics or need extra bits to force it to stay in 1 or 2. I also thought about going down the Diablo route or similar, even got as far as pricing up shipping a Diablo to the UK, however: 1) its very expensive compared with buying tube locally and doing your own thing, 2) we doubted there would be any weight saving especially if we opted for large diameter tube or if we needed to strength it, 3) rear would require a lot of tweaking. So we've opted to tray back TJ, not sure about the front at the mo. By we, I mean Martin Lewis and myself, Martin is the guy who started the whole trayback thing in the UK, I'm luck enough to live about 5 minutes away. There will be alot of other stuff that will be unique to a UK Jeep, its already sporting a custom 3 link + panhard front suspension, relocated steering box that allowed us to meet one of our design objectives, 37" will stick out about 1" to 2" in front of Jeep. Jeep build is a huge project (all kicked off by Willo finding me a pair of Teraflex HP CRD60s), one thats already give me some sleeplist nights and no doubt alot more, one that will progress slowly during the year, one that relies upon the expertise of UK folks such as Andy W who been retubing the D60s (thanks Andy, work is really appreciated) and some US suppliers who are very interested in what I'm upto - they've been offering great advice and very good pricing.
Cuffy
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Not forgeting the fooook who started this whole thing off 2005....
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James Sunderland will be doing my work but he needs to finish Dannys (Big Patrol) first and see how it performs at KOV fingers crossed
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Cleggy,
At some point I'll start a build thread when I take some decent pics and have more time. Regarding the gearbox, initially I was intending to go down the AW4 route however eventually opted for a TH350, passing on the AW4 plus all the bits to fit AW4 to a TJ to Willo - we've been trading bits on and off for a while. Now lots of folks are going to say fitting a TH350 to 4.0L I6 is a stupid thing to do, however: 1) at somepoint I may choose to go with a Chevvy Engine, 2) Stroke the 4.0L (I have a complete Cherry to play with), 3) the TH350 is a good deal shorter than the AW4, 4) its stronger, 5) doesn't rely upon electrics or need extra bits to force it to stay in 1 or 2. I also thought about going down the Diablo route or similar, even got as far as pricing up shipping a Diablo to the UK, however: 1) its very expensive compared with buying tube locally and doing your own thing, 2) we doubted there would be any weight saving especially if we opted for large diameter tube or if we needed to strength it, 3) rear would require a lot of tweaking. So we've opted to tray back TJ, not sure about the front at the mo. By we, I mean Martin Lewis and myself, Martin is the guy who started the whole trayback thing in the UK, I'm luck enough to live about 5 minutes away. There will be alot of other stuff that will be unique to a UK Jeep, its already sporting a custom 3 link + panhard front suspension, relocated steering box that allowed us to meet one of our design objectives, 37" will stick out about 1" to 2" in front of Jeep. Jeep build is a huge project (all kicked off by Willo finding me a pair of Teraflex HP CRD60s), one thats already give me some sleeplist nights and no doubt alot more, one that will progress slowly during the year, one that relies upon the expertise of UK folks such as Andy W who been retubing the D60s (thanks Andy, work is really appreciated) and some US suppliers who are very interested in what I'm upto - they've been offering great advice and very good pricing.
Cuffy
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phill walkers old cj10a had got all the parts you need by the sounds of your plans
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Bubba,
Have you heard something about Phil's CJ10a being for sale, last I knew was its been parked up along with hist TJ.
Cleggy,
So are you planning to build something that's going to be KOV competitive? I noticed that you bought some 2" fox shocks and air bumps? So what tyres did you go for? The inspiriration for alot of my build has come from the SAVVY build thread on Pirate, a competition winning Jeep on coils. Believe me, I seriously thought about air shocks and coilovers but eventually opted with good old coils as it allows me easily swap shocks / simpler to tune / cheaper / harder to break (famous last words), just trying to working whether to order 3.5" or 5.5" dual rate coils from Metalcloak. Very interested in hearing your plans and thoughts.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/general-4x4-discussion/1016359-savvy-currie-sfr-koh-stock-class-jeep-teaser.html (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/general-4x4-discussion/1016359-savvy-currie-sfr-koh-stock-class-jeep-teaser.html)
Mike C
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mike that savvy car got spanked by a landrover, so maybe not the best to copy
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Willo,
I was waiting for you to bring it up, in my defence a Land Rover running good old coils, a Land Rover that probably crewed by one the best teams in the country.
Mike C
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Back to winches :icon_twisted:....
Got the air free spool drum on the 8274...... Almost buttoned up just need to alter the air connectors to a size larger to fit their pipe .....
BUT........
Lots of different prices for 30metres of 11mm Dyna rope on the net..... Devon seem very pricey but maybe Tis the best???? Other people I have my eyes on supply 30 metres of 11mm with hook and fair lead for £166...... I'll have to live with yellow tho :hysterical:
What's ya view guys....... I Know less that zilch about this magic string stuff :icon_super:
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bowrope from david bowyer
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bowrope from david bowyer
Indeed that works.
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also got a feeling Dan at Wrex racing has an offer on Plasma 12 strand
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See Dutch's description of synthetic rope from his work perspective - it's basically all the same stuff was the conclusion I came to. I've been considering the Chinese / Hong Kong suppliers on ebay - a big risk that they could send silly string in an envelope I suppose but I've always done ok ordering from China/HK.
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best bang for your buck in the uk is bowrope, wash it after every outing in clean water and jobs a goodun, and like dutch said keep it out of uv's way when not in use
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Cheers guys....was tempted to go cheap but need 125 foot not the usual 98 fot or 30 metres
As the drum is smaller diameter than the original 8274 there is room for 150foot .....but gonna have to stop at 125 .......£££££££ too many :jpshakehead:
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Let me know how you get on sourcing the rope, I need to crack on with
My 8274 rebuild and get some string; looked at hand carrying it back
From the us but price didn't seem that much better.
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There are some longer lengths of 10mm on ebay, I was looking at 50m of 10mm for an 8274. 10mm dyneema bowrope has been fine for me up to now but 11mm or bigger seems to be the trend for challenge trucks.
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Got it all connected and working at lunchtime today....... I don't know why I'm so surprised but really works well and quickly and ....... After 2 years have a use for my ARB air solenoid....
:hysterical:
Magic string then next month
Here are some prices....
Wrex Racing £294 to include a hawse
Goodwinch £309 also to include a hawse....both are 125 foot and 11mm
E- bay special £166 includes hawse and only 100 foot and 11mm
See how my wallet feels next month........ :icon_biggrin:
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OMG!!! Then one needs to find a lady-of-the-night!!
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Boys,
If there are a number of you needing bits of string maybe think outside the box.
Said bit of string practically all come out of the same factory and then marketed by ,...... string merchants.
It all comes on drums @ 100 or 200 or longer metres but you pay thru the nose to aforementioned middle men to cut it orf and stick a hook on.
I'll do a bit of research for ya, maybe Willo ...also a yachtie can add.
I'll open the dance with .... and check out the pics :icon_super:
http://www.liros.com/en/products/offroad.html
I will add as and when I find them. :icon_winkle:
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Group Buy???
Fooook knows I have enough of this kicking about but will assist in this.
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Need enough to fill a standard 8274 but not for a couple of months at least.
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A Birty Group Buy by Dutch sounds the biz.......... 125foot of 11mm with hook and in grey would be nice....... Bet a few would also go for this......
Saw some in Pink ....... Cancer charity.......much as I support cancer charity and others I cannot bring myself to pink string up front :jpshakehead:.........she cried expectantly :icon_twisted:
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:iagree:
I need the same!
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Could be up for this, think I have 100 foot on our EP9i, wonder what the capacity is ?
Whats the recomended life span of this stuff, I ask as ours has been on the drum for at least 5 years ?
Do keep a stretchy cover over the winch though to protect from road salt & UV.
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I see on the Liros website that they have a factory sale section.
With the above shown intrest can we collate who needs string, what diameter and how much?
Off course if we can agree on 1 diameter say 10 or 12 mil. we can investigate ordering a reel for several hundred meters
and see what the cost is.
Dunno if they do the carbon grey, 10 mil. 40 metres incl. hook, plug and play but looks that way.
I see that their 'carbon grey' 10 mil. rope is :
dekanewton [daN]: 8500
kilogram-force [kgf]: 8667
If they are not inclined to sell retail, I have good contacts with a yacht rigger who could buy wholesale and
let us have it at mate-rates.
You come up with what you want and I can do the leg work.
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Really struggling to find out how much rope I can fit onto my superwinch EP9 i, obviously would like to get near the maximum I can, whatever it is
Just so we are clear, are we talking about sourcing an appropriate length complete with hook already spliced on / attached so its just a case of straight forward replacement ?
Wonder if we can get the sheathy bit that you get on the hook end too
As soon as I can find out about the length then I'll join the party.
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Just sent an email to the Liros factory to enquire wether they will sell to me direct.
That is either few hundred metres of carbon 10 mil. rope on a reel or inbetween 5 & 10 plug & play Rope + hook + termination in either 30 or 40 metre lengths.
Keep you posted.
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10mm rope :banghead: :banghead: I was on 12mm last year, do yourselves a favour and at least get 11mm
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10mm rope :banghead: :banghead: I was on 12mm last year, do yourselves a favour and at least get 11mm
Ok got that :icon_rolleyes: what SWL are we looking for 12 ton? Help me out here.....capiche !!
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All things on t'web seem to point to 11mm as being good for 8274s and 9.5 warn type winches
I'm sure 12 is even better but ya got to stop somewhere.
so are we agreed on 11mm?
In 125 and 100 foot lengths?
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Seems like a plan to me Hippster :icon_super:
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The ropes are easy to splice so you dont really have to worry about that. Just get the bits and pieces and you can put what you want on the end.
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The ropes are easy to splice so you dont really have to worry about that. Just get the bits and pieces and you can put what you want on the end.
Can you splice Delk ? ....... a plan is forming : get rope and hardware, fwd to you, you do the rigger bits. Ply you with ale & jaffa cakes. Cut out the middle men.
I know the principle of splicing dyneema, and seen it done often enough, double back in itself and the harder you pull the firmer the splice but never (needed) to attempt it.
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Splicing is not too tricky, I've done new hooks and stuff.
What's the recommended rope rating to winch strength factor? I've always used 10mm dyneema (c. 9000kg break) on a 4500kg winch, should it be a 2x, 3x or more factor? I've never had a break but could have just been lucky.
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If you cant splice dyneema i suggest you had all your jeepin stuff over, 3 passes and chuck it down itself. All you need is a chopstick a very sharp knife and some tape. A few beers and stereo on.
Used winchrope? Now thats another kettle of fish.
I am surprised you havent tried a group buy with david bowyer. If 150' of 11mm is the right price i'd be interested
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I had previously been sent a link to splicing rope, but have lost it.
Since I already have a hook from my old rope, I'm quite happy to have a go at splicing. I think the 11mm rope is the one to go for, and I would be interested in at least 100', possibly more to allow for splicing mistakes.
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If you cant splice dyneema i suggest you had all your jeepin stuff over, 3 passes and chuck it down itself. All you need is a chopstick a very sharp knife and some tape. A few beers and stereo on.
Used winchrope? Now thats another kettle of fish.
I am surprised you havent tried a group buy with david bowyer. If 150' of 11mm is the right price i'd be interested
Fook me Mr. O .... who p*ssed in your weatabix this morning?
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No-one. Thats the danger of text. I wrote with a chuckle and you read with a willos got the grump again. Perhaps i should write in green for happy go lucky text and red for you feckin isiots why cant you sort it out grrr etc.
Iom should write in pink ..... Heehee hoo hooharhar
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Iom should write in pink ..... Heehee hoo hooharhar
Harsh but quite true lol
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Mr Bowyer himself recomends 100ft x 10mm for my set up, so if the plan is to go for 10 or 11, i'm in the queue :icon_super:
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The splicing is easy enough that I don't think shipping it is worth the cost. You can just send the ale and keep the rope. Our lifting and rigging guy that surveys our boats showed me in two minutes flat. He is also my test weight since he is just under 30 stones!
Grumpy Willo is spot on with the chop stick for getting down the middle. Pass the rope through its side, down seven stitches and back out. Tighten your first braid then repeat three more times before passing the remaining bit down the middle. I have been using four ins and outs on my rope and never had an issue.
As for the size of the rope more depends on life expectency then breaking strength. A 11mm rope will take a lot more damage and wear then a 10mm before causing issues.
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Iom should write in pink ..... Heehee hoo hooharhar
Harsh but quite true lol
I Have the Lithuanian on stand by!!
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As for the size of the rope more depends on life expectency then breaking strength. A 11mm rope will take a lot more damage and wear then a 10mm before causing issues.
That makes sense and maybe explains why challenge trucks like thicker rope, they use it much more often that I do so need the durability. Thanks Delk.
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I Have the Lithuanian on stand by!!
Nice one, i have a list, can he do a job lot
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I Have the Lithuanian on stand by!!
Nice one, i have a list, can he do a job lot
I have Charlie who does reasonable rates
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Ok we're all touchy feely, lovey again. IOM in pink ......can live with that :003:
One reel @ 300 metres or so (depending on punters) 11 mil. carbon Dyneema.
Lets see what the krauts come back with....... (oh shit, offended BD now) ..... der bruder von das fatherland.
Got me road trip to Cloggie land tomoz so may be off the air for a bit.
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Price depending I could be in on the deal too
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:imwitstupid:
If there's any left to have :003:
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Have a good trip to cloogyville mate, my folks off there net week too, way down south to see old friends, must get out there again one day, been a while :icon_sad:
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Cleggy,
this might be of interest... We started to strip off the all the body work on my TJ, we are planning on building a custom tubelar body, had a bit of rethink over the last few weeks. Based on lugging the front inner fenders and the poision spyder front flares to my Rodeo, the tub and cage combined weight is a lot more than I anticipated. Looking at the pics of your Jeep, my guess is your TJ tub/cage must weigh roughly the same as mine, possibly alot more than mine so.
Mike C
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Cleggy,
this might be of interest... We started to strip off the all the body work on my TJ, we are planning on building a custom tubelar body, had a bit of rethink over the last few weeks. Based on lugging the front inner fenders and the poision spyder front flares to my Rodeo, the tub and cage combined weight is a lot more than I anticipated. Looking at the pics of your Jeep, my guess is your TJ tub/cage must weigh roughly the same as mine, possibly alot more than mine so.
Mike C
Indeed and Willo will confirm this, the Mafia was to heavy to stand a chance, Buggy is the only option and I quickly decided this back-in 2006.
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Isle of Man, in my case its the D60s/37s Fedimas that are the killer, for the last 7 years weight was never an issue with D30/D44/35s Simexes.
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Cheers Mike just weighed mine it came out at 2220kg that's with the spare and my ground anchor want to get it down to 1800kg just for towing perpose i think its possible.THe spare and g/anchor etc can go in the back off the camper van.
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Cheers Mike just weighed mine it came out at 2220kg that's with the spare and my ground anchor want to get it down to 1800kg just for towing perpose i think its possible.THe spare and g/anchor etc can go in the back off the camper van.
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For quote purposes only :
Lornaben 125
Cockney 125
Ivanidea 125
willo 150
Wildwood 150
Iom 125
James 150
Thorna 125
Gaz 125
Sooo give or take 1200 ft = 365 Metres.
Will ask quote & SWL for 10 and 11
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What about thimble's and big hooks?
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What about thimble's and big hooks?
Some of our friends will splice those on for you. I've take enough flak already :003:
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Probably best to source separately but maybe a group buy from a lifting equipment supplier?
I have a local one I can enquire with??
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I am just interested in a price on 150' 11mm, don't need hook and blah, got them alread, and if I can't splice...well you know the rest :003:
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Thought I would give this a nudge.......as its nearly May........Breakout soon :icon_super:
any news on dyneema in bulk yet and will it be ready for Breakout....... ????
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Yeah sorry guys, still baffles me that people simply dont come back after a genuine enquiry.
Will ruffle some feathers tomorro. Either way if this all comes to nothing will let you know.
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Cheers Dutch......Got feelers out for myself ......but don't want to turn up with an empty drum :hysterical:
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I have put the question to the man who supplies Plasma rope to the UK...we shall see what he comes back with
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thanks .... :icon_super:
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Thanks :greggmo:
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Gaz. Do you want 10mm or 11mm and how long?
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not much more than a week away so pushed the button on some dyneema from off the bay...
95 foot of 12mm ....... :icon_biggrin:
Glad I only got 95 foot cos even with the deltatek drum that's a lot thinner, and can therefore take more rope the 95 foot fills the drum :icon_twisted:
just a heads up cos without the longer drum.....which I don't have there is no way 125' let alone 150' would fit........
If there is a bulk buy later I'll Prob go for 100' with eyelets on each end to use as extension etc.
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Gaz. Do you want 10mm or 11mm and how long?
Apologies Will, only just caught up with this.
Mr Bowyer himself recomends 100ft x 10mm for my EPi 9 set up, so either 10 or 11 and 100 - 125 ft, can always loose any extra that wont fit comfortably on the drum I suppose.
Struggling to find a definate size capacity for the winch
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Sorry guys, my offer to see if I could find a cheaper bulk option through my contacts in the yachty rigging world was genuine.
I even spoke to the guy yesterday .... oh ... oh ..oh I have been away..... but hasn't my colleague got back to you ......
I'll get you a quote this afternoon.....
Well that was yesterday.....nothing heard.
Well foooook that. :011:
Sorry to keep you hanging on in anticipation but I realize (Wildwood) that time is running out.
Apologies :icon_redface:
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Not a problem mate.... you gave it a go ...... your in the hands of others ..... customer service can be appalling .... head up clogmeister :icon_super:
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here is the quote I got for plasma 12 strand, this is for bare rope as I understand everyone wants to make their own:
11mm @ £1.48 per ft.
9.5mm @ £1.35 per ft.
Price + VAT & carriage at cost.
This is for a group buy of the lengths listed earlier, we are already minus wildwood
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Just putting this out there. My contact came back to me. Blamed spam filters etc....
385m (1280 ft) of grey Dynaone 9t BL would be £1706.70 excluding freight and VAT.
That makes it approx £1.33/ft so not a million miles from Will's quote.
Cheers.
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Thanks for getting the info chaps.
I found out my current winch will apparently melt synthetic line on power out due to heat generated by the brake ...
I'm going to put my money into a replacement winch now, so count me out of any deals.
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Good work Dutch :icon_winkle:
E-mailed this guy the other day but need to ring him
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261212385571?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
See if he will do a deal without the ally fairlead & buying more than one.
You never know
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That looks good value for the kit Gaz, and its red so it's faster :003:
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Can you see if he can do different lengths and maybe without the extras?
I'm spent out for now but might re-visit this idea later in the year.
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Although my guy has missed the bus and we've run out of steam a bit, no probs taking a tally later in the year.
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They actually do about 4-5 different colours, tried ringing but only there in the mornings.
I'll get hold of them as soon as i can to discuss options.
They do 10mm x 100 ft for £149, 11mm x 100ft for £167 but both of those are with the ally fairlead which they sell for £36..... so if they knock £25 off for not including that it would seem almost viable.
Shop here
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/WINCH-IT-RECOVERY-PRODUCTS/_i.html?rt=nc&_sid=56181887&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1581&_pgn=3
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OK, here is the deal,
They do 10mm x 100 ft kit for £149, available without the Ally hawse for £129
11mm x 100ft for £167, available without the ally hawse for £147
For an minimum tota order of 3 ropes, a further 4% discount is available if I order over the phone, i.e. not via the bay of theives :003:
Let me know chaps