Topic: 1 ton continues (Read 95433 times)

gazjeep · « **Reply #25 on:** January 06, 2011, 06:51:41 PM »

Like many, been following this hippy saga with interest to see another project progress, good find on the new supplier Jez, bet you are well chuffed to see a big chunk of light

Now where's them bloody pics..... & of the Jeep too

Dave69 · « **Reply #26 on:** January 06, 2011, 09:41:10 PM »

sounds like your putting on a bit of weigh over the christmas holidays.

your doing a build thread which requires more pictures than words

wildwood · « **Reply #27 on:** January 06, 2011, 11:18:49 PM »

Load of pics comin

just need to learn to drive Flickr

wildwood · « **Reply #28 on:** January 24, 2011, 07:03:57 PM »

Guttechtomy

Spent the weekend pulling transfercases and shit.............. looks like I'll be able to run a flat skid plate now I've got more driveshaft length to play with

Might have to dice and slice the floor but hey 'metal glue' will sort that..........

BIG Question.....................

I could just do a flat skid in 6mm plate................ simple but heavy as shit....................

or do the same and cut 4 inch holes make it look like a swiss cheese...type of thing....

Or make a frame work from square section and bolt on 6mm ally sheet.................

Build it from unobtainium................

knit one in macrami??

Anyone got any ideas or done sonething similar.....

I'm off for a merlot

Nosebolt · « **Reply #29 on:** January 24, 2011, 07:27:53 PM »

cant remember where but saw a belly skid that was a reinforce steel plate (had inverted angle welded inside) and skinned with some sort of nylon or PTFE sheet for low friction

my only worry would be a steel sheet with holes will be a bit grippy

wildwood · « **Reply #30 on:** January 24, 2011, 07:31:31 PM »

Ah yeah............. the PTFE sheet................ apparently like chopping board material :icon_biggrin:that'll work..................just need to find a supplier now....
cheers

isle of man · « **Reply #31 on:** January 24, 2011, 07:32:02 PM »

Have a look see at....

http://www.jeep-club.at/Umbauten/teraflex-umbau-pdfs/neu/BUT_install.pdf

http://www.rockcrawler.com/techreports/33engineering_tcase_skid/index.asp

http://www.genright.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=SKP-8403

http://www.rokmen.com/tj_products/skid_plates/up_armor_skids/up_armor_skids.html

http://www.wanderingtrail.com/Mods/TJLJmods/Medic_tummytuck/Medic_tranny.htm

That will keep you quiet this night - have also seen the yanks with some sort of Heath Robertson ALLOY and chopping board jobbies!!!!

wildwood · « **Reply #32 on:** January 24, 2011, 07:47:45 PM »

There you go heath thingy and chopping boards http://www.bearingboys.co.uk/HDPE-2581-c gotta love it

isle of man · « **Reply #33 on:** January 24, 2011, 07:50:29 PM »

Happy to help!!!!!

donk498 · « **Reply #34 on:** January 24, 2011, 08:17:08 PM »

Check out the price of this stuff, never knew plastic could be so expensive. http://www.bearingboys.co.uk/PEEK_-2583-c

Dave69 · « **Reply #35 on:** January 24, 2011, 08:43:54 PM »

the reason PEEK is expensive as it aimed at the aviation/aerospace market

Warthog · « **Reply #36 on:** January 24, 2011, 09:07:10 PM »

Pretty sure this is the material? There's a few threads on Pirate that mention it.

http://www.bearingboys.co.uk/UHMWPE_-2611-c

wildwood · « **Reply #37 on:** January 24, 2011, 09:35:56 PM »

Thanks.............. that's less embarrassing than having chopin' boards on ya gut

Got the Dana 300 flip over out and cleaned for you to install in Asylum's rig

Tragic · « **Reply #38 on:** January 24, 2011, 09:36:36 PM »

Quote from: wildwood on January 24, 2011, 07:03:57 PM

Anyone got any ideas or done sonething similar.....

Yup

We built this (scroll for pics) for Si Redmond's coilovered YJ. Flat belly (the Jeep, not Si) and no cutting of the floor necessary even with the motor lifted 1" and 102" WB.
Fabbed it from 1 1/2" tube and 6mm plate

wildwood · « **Reply #39 on:** April 06, 2011, 08:24:50 PM »

14 Bolt argggghhhhhhh bollix........

Tried to have a few hours of detroit fitting to the 14 bolt....... tis easy cos I've read the 14 bolt bible and trawled Pirate....bollix...

I got the carrier out and ring gear off and then found mine were also held on by 3 big eff off cross head screws.........now I then got to do some interweb research and as we all know a detroit has 4 prongs like this
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After cursing swearing and stuff I got logical and to cut a long story and all afternoon short mine has 3 prongs and is screwed together so it dont fly apart.....cos it has got a Gov-lock....yep they put locking devices in them...... they are hated by the septics and probably wont last long with 40's but its a locking device...I now remember a conversation with the owner of the doner truck who said it would pull itself loaded and a heavily loaded trailer across a muddy field in 2 wheel drive............ that'll be why then.......
So my nice new detroit will have to wait till I regear from 4.10 to 5.38..with new carrier, cos now we are going to have to re-set and sort all the backlash and shit ....so only want to do that once with the front as well.

In the mean time till I can get big pics up and bore you with 100 shots of detailed stuff here is my new rear end with spendy LEDs and comp-cut rear with 2.5mm armour...... big sheet for the rear cost me £34 result.........also decided to ditch rear door and new tailgate held on by 4 fasteners and I can still get my paw in to operate winch controls of hydraulic.............more later
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isle of man · « **Reply #40 on:** April 06, 2011, 08:30:57 PM »

What is your projected tyre size - or should that be tire size?

Just curious!!!!

wildwood · « **Reply #41 on:** April 06, 2011, 09:31:15 PM »

There is plans for havin' Double Js H1 rims and 39.5s Boggers..............

or if that goes tits up keep the H2 rims 17" x 8 ish and go Irok 42s

isle of man · « **Reply #42 on:** April 06, 2011, 09:34:48 PM »

Hmmmm that's on the limit of a 14bolt (I have this on the buggy) great combination by the way.

wildwood · « **Reply #43 on:** April 06, 2011, 09:39:14 PM »

Think we're more gentle on the skinny pedal over here..............hear what your saying tho. I will worry about the gov lock scenario till its out and detroit lockered........... da boys on pirate seem to get away with 44s then............

isle of man · « **Reply #44 on:** April 06, 2011, 09:46:47 PM »

I have as you have seen 44" boggers on the Buggy but they are short size the 42" Irok are the same sidexside!!!

Keep the vision....

wildwood · « **Reply #45 on:** April 06, 2011, 10:14:26 PM »

Thanx...I need encouragement after todays fiasco...........I did get to tit around with the trolley jack and suspension.......fully compressed and there's room for the Iroks........ so maybe just maybe..............but 39.5s in a bogger flavour might be better for UK type terrain tho

Panic mechanic! · « **Reply #46 on:** April 07, 2011, 01:35:18 PM »

its good to see some pics of it,very impressive have a pat on the back!

wildwood · « **Reply #47 on:** May 04, 2011, 11:26:10 PM »

A nice lady from UPS dropped of 2 very large boxes this afternoon.................

Dana 60 single axle hubs............... wheeeee.............. also 3/8 thick steel dana 60 diffcover....mmmnnn nice

So I fitted them tonight and all of a sudden the WMS of the front has shrunk from 77" to 69"

That means in real terms that I have 2.5" of rubber sticking out from under my 7" arches at the front and half an inch at the back.(per side)

Took some pics but you'll have to wait to tomoz.

GC passed its MOT with advisory of top and bottom ball joints on nearside........... that is an arseache of a job so that will have to wait till I can borrow the correct balljoint press and tools........

Not such a bad day in all

Oh yeah anyone want some dually front hubs and 14bolt drums............. no?....... thought not

wildwood · « **Reply #48 on:** May 05, 2011, 11:39:10 AM »

Right then.....Here's a few pics.

This one shows maaaaaasive difference between dually front and normal front
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Will alter WMS by a tadge

And this weighs about 20lbs and is my new 3/8" thick Dana 60 Diff cover
Will have welded bracket that supports full hydro ram for steering so has to be tough.

So before anyone asks it ............Why am I not going for the flat table top to the axle and double ended ram?
Believe me I wanted to..........but with axle moved forward 6.5" and minimum lift that would put the ram on a colision
course with the rad

Any negatives about a single ended ram then...............?
Well they don't look as bling, and design wise you don't get that nicely centred lots of stuff going on down there look.
In operational terms same power but you will not get same amount of turns left to right as with double ended system.

Think I can live with that

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wildwood · « **Reply #49 on:** May 05, 2011, 11:59:09 AM »

Ad here's the proof of the pudding............. Only got a stick out of 2.5" now..........
The tyres are 12.5 wide and are on H2 wheels that have a 5.25" or similar backspace so that has helped over the normal 4" backspace that wheels normally have.
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If you believe the Pirate boys the hub will now be subject to a good trashing on the rocks cos it sticks out. But only by 1/2" which is why some run solid hubs to do away with that 1/2"......

So once upon a time I was going to run H1 wheels with the 7" backspace on the front and the old hubs.......... would have made things wider by 2".no biggy.........

But the rear is also a dually axle and has 64" backspace .......only 2" more per side than a YJ or TJ with the H2 wheels on it at the moment only the wall of the tyre sticks beyond the 7" wheelarch.....
The H1 rim with 7" backspace would not fit here.

Would mean new centres for only the rear two H1 wheels to bring offset to minimum which is 3.5" and then I would still need spacers to get the thing looking vaguely sensible......
So sadly big fat no to H1s.............Got to rehub.............done.......... and stick with H2s

Tyres are going to be Irocks 39.5 x13.50x17

I was thinking 42 x14 x 17 cos there's room

But the cost difference in dollars is this 42s are $520.94 and the 39.5s are $381.79

The 39.5s are and accurate measurement and the 42s come up at 41.5....so for the price diff I'm shopping cheap

other weird thing the 39.5s have more ply in the tread and walls and can support more weight...... so tougher??
I really don't know but its cost for me.

I'm off to sell another organ to get near finishing this.

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Nosebolt

donk498

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