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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2012, 06:53:15 PM »

CLICKY...







can't get anymore info on it....I'd have real hard troubles buying anything from Tibus
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2012, 06:54:50 PM »

Can't find prices.................. probably just as well.................... :icon_biggrin:
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2012, 07:04:12 PM »

1980 and earlier Broncos and F150s ran a 44 up front.
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2012, 06:09:52 PM »

I just skimmed the thread cause i am playing catch up with all the threads so sorry if i missed something.
ideally I'd like something cheap, strong thus reliable with good ground clearance and a reasonably easy to source parts factor
It doesn't exist mate, when talking about strength the money will add up. So either give up or stop thinking about it like that. Or pray your one of those people that just happen across stupid good deals.
Your not in the land of Dana axles either mate, and i cant ship you any cheap. So it comes down to what you can find. If you want big tyres then run something that will hold the with stock internals. 37s? --
dana 60s and up
toyota 80s
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2012, 06:21:43 PM »

JJ, you should introduce yourself.....

I'll introduce your truck :003:







Buy some of these maybe?

http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=336
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2012, 06:51:03 PM »

Isn't JJs truck still up at King CJ's looking for a buyer???
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2012, 07:35:40 PM »

I just skimmed the thread cause i am playing catch up with all the threads so sorry if i missed something.
ideally I'd like something cheap, strong thus reliable with good ground clearance and a reasonably easy to source parts factor
It doesn't exist mate, when talking about strength the money will add up. So either give up or stop thinking about it like that. Or pray your one of those people that just happen across stupid good deals.
Your not in the land of Dana axles either mate, and i cant ship you any cheap. So it comes down to what you can find. If you want big tyres then run something that will hold the with stock internals. 37s? --
dana 60s and up
toyota 80s
mogs (dont even think about it, trust me!)




Gee, thanks for your encouraging words of Wisdom, oh he who has returned from God knows where.....I am quite aware of where I live thanks, and the pitfalls it brings in trying to successfully compete with an american car.
I am merely trying to find an reasonable alternative (as I'm not hugely well off) to what I currently have, so that I can keep my Jeep running through an event.
Perhaps I should take your advice and give up, but then again I have no idea who you are so perhaps I'll just carry on in my own little way


Force 9's yeah I'm sure they will graft on to my jeep, but at that price tag I may as well import something propper
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2012, 07:49:44 PM »

Personally,

I'd listen to what he has to say.
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2012, 08:55:48 PM »

Force 9's yeah I'm sure they will graft on to my jeep, but at that price tag I may as well import something propper

I didnt think they were that bad on the price? Show me a pair of imports that are gonna be cheaper?

I think once you start looking for Budget/Lower doller options. All avenues, slowly reach deeper into your pockets.

Import something propper? One has to assume thats a Lardie Hate thing :003:

JamesH comment of Cleggys would be good advice.

Or take on some 1 tons like Wildwood.

Buying the "Mafia" isnt that bad an option either :icon_winkle:
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2012, 09:23:43 PM »

Force 9's yeah I'm sure they will graft on to my jeep, but at that price tag I may as well import something propper

I didnt think they were that bad on the price? Show me a pair of imports that are gonna be cheaper?

I think once you start looking for Budget/Lower doller options. All avenues, slowly reach deeper into your pockets.

Import something propper? One has to assume thats a Lardie Hate thing :003:

JamesH comment of Cleggys would be good advice.

Or take on some 1 tons like Wildwood.

Buying the "Mafia" isnt that bad an option either :icon_winkle:

yep, I know what you are saying, I am just starting out on the research the yota/nissan route but don't really know where to start or what I'm looking at.

To be fair, the Force 9's are a good price, considering you are getting an ashcroft locker (billed to be better than an ARB, and about half the price) and a full set of D60 diameter RCV shafts, the only problem I see is the R& P ratio's which I think are standard landie, at 4.11, so some gearing trickery would have to be done elsewhere to keep them in line with running 4.88's and I'm not sure how or if you can do that?
Also from the pics it looks like they are drivers side drop
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2012, 09:32:05 PM »

I recall seeing Mick's Clayton Cherokee with a flipped front Toyota axle - he said he would not do another.


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« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2012, 09:43:00 PM »

Thing is if your not doing it yourself, or mates rates? The labour is gonna be a killer.

Ashcrofts has a great reputation for sorting peeps out. Give them a call and see what he can do for ya?

Being an engineering firm, with all the in house machinery to cut gears etc, ratios shouldnt be a problem.

Train of thought would lead to, the piece of mind. I would have knowing the spares and support are here in mainland UK.

I personally like the 1 ton avenue, keeping thing Dana and stateside.


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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #37 on: February 05, 2012, 09:47:29 PM »

could you not buy some heavy ass old yank pickup and heave the whole drive train in ? the problems all seam to be the diff on the wrong side
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #38 on: February 05, 2012, 09:49:43 PM »

could you not buy some heavy ass old yank pickup and heave the whole drive train in ? the problems all seam to be the diff on the wrong side

And build a Truggy around it...SIMPLES! :003:
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #39 on: February 05, 2012, 09:53:00 PM »

Thing is if your not doing it yourself, or mates rates? The labour is gonna be a killer.

Ashcrofts has a great reputation for sorting peeps out. Give them a call and see what he can do for ya?

Being an engineering firm, with all the in house machinery to cut gears etc, ratios shouldnt be a problem.

Train of thought would lead to, the piece of mind. I would have knowing the spares and support are here in mainland UK.

I personally like the 1 ton avenue, keeping thing Dana and stateside.




Excuse my ignorance, but what is the 1 ton exactly? D60 front and something big on the back? I am hesitant about going D60, whilst I appreciate they are as strong as, I will loose a whole heap load of ground clearance, that being said, that's maybe where the winch comes in, as lets face it its better to have shit ground clearance on a working axle rather than a bust high clearance axle, Bust axle is a definite no fix in the field scenario.

Bubba, do you mean like that 715 that is parked about 2 miles up the road from me?
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2012, 09:54:43 PM »

Thing is if your not doing it yourself, or mates rates? The labour is gonna be a killer.

Ashcrofts has a great reputation for sorting peeps out. Give them a call and see what he can do for ya?

Being an engineering firm, with all the in house machinery to cut gears etc, ratios shouldnt be a problem.




Can you re-gear a D300? it seems Ashcrofts 4.11's are custom made

When I have made the (hopefully) correct decision on which path to follow, I will start off with replacing the front, as like I have said before, I am yet to (touch wood) bust my rear
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2012, 09:57:39 PM »

possibly it does have a d60 front and a 70rear but the d60 is a closed knuckle type and not considered as strong as the open knuckle gearing is something like 5.77 if it has original engine its a ohc tornado again not the best  
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2012, 10:00:44 PM »

can't remember what engine it had in it straight 6 I think, all a bit of a sorry state too, also them axles are friggin wide, would have to do some tube surgery to make them fit
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Re: Talk to me about axles
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #44 on: February 05, 2012, 10:09:27 PM »

DANA 44 rear I bust easy - even the custom Rockrusher on the Mafia had to be kissed by Gasser - I beat them hard!!!


Currently on my second gearbox on the buggy after fooooking the bellhousing - the DANA 60 and 14 BOLT combo are standing up very well.


Beef is going to cost and it is going to be heavy.
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #45 on: February 05, 2012, 10:10:06 PM »

yup use a terra low
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #46 on: February 05, 2012, 10:11:17 PM »

Good referance build projects:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=578353

Oh, and you can break anything if you try hard enough..... :003:

As to Winch Challenge events, ditching those electric winches for PTO could be of benefit. The right set-ups will drag anything around.  :icon_biggrin:
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #47 on: February 05, 2012, 10:13:24 PM »

Ok, so what axles are on that DJ/JJ rig?

Seems I need to wait til re-mortgage time, or wait until banks are being kind again.....or buy the Mafia.....
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« Reply #48 on: February 05, 2012, 10:18:31 PM »

Ok, so what axles are on that DJ/JJ rig?

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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #49 on: February 05, 2012, 11:04:18 PM »

If you cant take some sarcasm-bluntness over the internet i don't know what to tell ya. But its easy to tell you have no idea what your getting into, we all start somewhere. no worries. But if you don't want the feedback from guys that have dug the ruts your driving in - stop asking mate.
That Jeep of mine was built in a driveway in England. And it didn't have stupid money thrown at it, just lots and lots of time and metal.
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