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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #75 on: February 06, 2012, 08:43:46 PM »

The d44 pinion is longer. I kept my stock drive shaft by moving my axle forward a little. That's the resin I am running the high steer parts and now the tires don't rub on the back of the fenders any longer.

Almost any axle will have a longer pinion then a d30 but all this can be worked out.
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #77 on: February 07, 2012, 09:02:29 AM »

I have a black roller lurking.......

So what should I expect running 35's on 4.11/4.10 lots of stalling and more grunt required?

Would this said D44 front axle have a longer pinion nose and thus I would need to re -assess prop lengths?
When I went from a D30 to a D44 in the front I didn't need to change the prop, but the back I did, the AMC20 was a bit longer in the pinion, combined with the lift, fitting the D44 left the prop extended right out on the splines.
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #78 on: February 07, 2012, 06:17:24 PM »

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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #79 on: February 07, 2012, 06:21:14 PM »

deal done dood?
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #80 on: February 07, 2012, 06:33:53 PM »

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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #81 on: February 07, 2012, 07:50:26 PM »

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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #82 on: February 07, 2012, 07:51:40 PM »

is there any vids of JJs now for sale monkey tj  :017:
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« Reply #83 on: February 07, 2012, 11:18:33 PM »

Mogs (dont even think about it, trust me!)

JJ's Monkey would be a good place to start, with them under a truck already :icon_super:

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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #84 on: February 08, 2012, 08:56:30 AM »



there is more just got to figure out how to pull them off facebook :017:
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #85 on: February 08, 2012, 09:46:01 AM »

As indicated before this is a very intriguing topic and unmapped territory for me.

If I may jump on the band wagon here and fire off a couple of questions re. my CJ7 :

- What drivetrain have I got, I guess it standard but what. (I've got a 4speed box and wide track axles)
- Wont be planning rock crawling or time trials (flying aroung a track at a million MPH) any time soon
but if say anything decided to go pop after 30 years while doing some froading ..... what would you expect to go pop ?  (providing everything is nicely greased up and fluids are current & level)

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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #86 on: February 08, 2012, 10:07:47 AM »


but if say anything decided to go pop after 30 years while doing some froading ..... what would you expect to go pop ?  (providing everything is nicely greased up and fluids are current & level)


your arse and sanity as you hear that rock gouge along the side of your infamous shininess and you realise there is no way out and you can only go forward and continue with the damage  :003:
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #87 on: February 08, 2012, 10:34:32 AM »

I'll say it very slowly d r i v e t r a i n ......you ninckumpoop  :icon_rolleyes:
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #88 on: February 08, 2012, 10:46:57 AM »

Dutch, your cj will be great for trials and tyro trials, think slow non damaging dont stop, it'll also teach you to to be a better driver, hence i am crap at them... I dont know much about cj 's but i expect you will need to keep an eye in uj's propshaft splines.
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #89 on: February 08, 2012, 02:10:35 PM »

As indicated before this is a very intriguing topic and unmapped territory for me.

If I may jump on the band wagon here and fire off a couple of questions re. my CJ7 :

- What drivetrain have I got, I guess it standard but what. (I've got a 4speed box and wide track axles)
- Wont be planning rock crawling or time trials (flying aroung a track at a million MPH) any time soon
but if say anything decided to go pop after 30 years while doing some froading ..... what would you expect to go pop ?  (providing everything is nicely greased up and fluids are current & level)


As has already been said, the front drive shaft UJs are a weak link, if you ever replace them, make sure you buy genuine spicers .
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #90 on: February 08, 2012, 05:06:10 PM »

amc 20 rear end you would prob spin a rear shaft or at worst twist the tube and pumkin    but if you stay on 31s you will have no isues
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #91 on: February 08, 2012, 05:54:01 PM »


the front drive shaft UJs are a weak link, if you ever replace them, make sure you buy genuine Greasable spicers .
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #92 on: February 08, 2012, 06:27:55 PM »

and first spend on the rear should be one piece shafts (if it aint already got em)
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #93 on: February 08, 2012, 06:31:54 PM »

hang on lets keep on track with willos bit      dutch we can cover in detail any ideas in another thread  lets not cloud things up
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #94 on: February 08, 2012, 06:39:01 PM »

Yeah damn thread poachers :hysterical:

I'm all good so far...The power of Birties has delivered! thank you all for your helpful and informative comments

carry on chatting axle tech if you will...
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #95 on: February 08, 2012, 06:43:05 PM »

ok then just one peice shafts is not quite enough on wide track amc 20 a careful bit of welding is advisable to the tubes where they press in to the diff casting as the wide trac can twist the tube and a truss would help if 35s and big power is used
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #96 on: February 08, 2012, 06:45:08 PM »

basically Dutch ya gonna burn cash and change the axles within 18 months
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #97 on: February 08, 2012, 06:55:01 PM »

basically Dutch ya gonna burn cash and change the axles within 18 months

and i may have a 44 rear up for grabs in the not too distant future...
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #98 on: February 08, 2012, 06:58:21 PM »

appparently 20 is stronger than stock 44

and dutch, dont let them scare you, its all about the way you drive, ask ADE  :icon_winkle:
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Re: Talk to me about axles
« Reply #99 on: February 08, 2012, 07:00:27 PM »

who me  :102:




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