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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #50 on: February 12, 2012, 09:42:40 PM »

by drive shaft do you mean half shafts? if so mine are cv type, so unlikely

Why do you say unlikely? Are they stock 1993-1998 Grand Cherokee CV joint shaft or uprated daddy's

Didnt realise you were running CV type. With the tyre size your running and assuming they are stock, Then i would have a good look at them, as the symptom sound familiar to CV failure.

Stock CV's joints really dont like being driven hard locked, with large tyres and BHP at their max angles. Most lardie boys go through stock CV's quickly :003:



sorry, I was quoting on unfamiliar territory. I have RCV shafts, and have asked on here whether there maybe a possibility of my bump stops not being extended enough, and on RH lock perhaps could the cv be binding. RCV in the install instructions do say not to have lock to lock too excessive. I emailed to ask what was too excessive and got no reply.
Though I have not changed my steering stops, and it all used to be ok, unless something has changed since I moved the axle back
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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #51 on: February 12, 2012, 09:43:51 PM »

look on randys ring and pinion there is a chart

Thanks

what is the mileage on the thought train that maybe the bumpstops aren't wound out enough and the CV's are binding, stopping the diff? however it happens in 4wd only, doesn't matter in high or low or lockers in or out, and only on full RH lock on the road. Driving in 4wd on the road is fine......

But nothing has changed and it all used to be ok before I shoved the axle back
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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #52 on: February 12, 2012, 10:01:01 PM »

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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #53 on: February 12, 2012, 10:01:39 PM »

cv joints normally click or grumble on full lock and if seizing you get a funny waggle back through the steering wheel  
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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #54 on: February 12, 2012, 10:13:04 PM »

Nice upgrade the RCV's

Most cv fails are from the inner race or cage busting up.

Googled the RCV's and found a couple of articles where this was the case for the D60 deritive.

However on the D30 deritives, the diff R&P Carrier or Crosspins have failed, before the chrome molly shafts/CV's.

Im thinking the grumble and clicking and drive characteristic of a duff CV, maybe over shadowed by noisey tyres and general 4x4 drive characteristics???
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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #55 on: February 12, 2012, 10:15:16 PM »

ok now we have two good options i think for the fault
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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #56 on: February 12, 2012, 10:27:17 PM »

Nice upgrade the RCV's

Most cv fails are from the inner race or cage busting up.

Googled the RCV's and found a couple of articles where this was the case for the D60 deritive.

However on the D30 deritives, the diff R&P Carrier or Crosspins have failed, before the chrome molly shafts/CV's.

Im thinking the grumble and clicking and drive characteristic of a duff CV, maybe over shadowed by noisey tyres and general 4x4 drive characteristics???

would the stethoscope test not have brought up any cv problems? George said the front axle was as almost silent on both locks, arb in and out. Sorry for the silly questions.
Also if it is a case of windup, even if the lockers is off in 4wd, shouldn't the diff act as a diff, so if the RHS is binding, then free up the LH side and go with that?
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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #57 on: February 12, 2012, 11:42:28 PM »

would the stethoscope test not have brought up any cv problems? George said the front axle was as almost silent on both locks, arb in and out.

My thoughts on this is, that without the wieght of the vehicle the "CV failure"  may just not show up. 

If it were me. i would strip out and check the CV.
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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #58 on: February 13, 2012, 03:21:55 PM »

Initial reports from the garage are that the r &p's are different, as sfter 10 revolutions of the wheels, the chalks are out ffffffffs :011: :icon_twisted:

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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #59 on: February 13, 2012, 03:57:27 PM »

How'de that happen???

 Rolling heads? Blood squirt artery courtcase murder?

Sorry to hear the news.
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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #60 on: February 13, 2012, 04:05:35 PM »

God knows. Lets see what the tooth count is. Trouble is, its cost me over a K including trip and trailer and ferry to 7s, etc and its the second one grrrr. Unless gasser put the wring one in the back......

Can there be anything in the tc that would hive the same result, as im told my 231 is fooked
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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #61 on: February 13, 2012, 04:19:10 PM »

the r+p's being different will bugger the transfer case. but no there is nothing really in there that would make any difference
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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #62 on: February 13, 2012, 04:41:11 PM »

I would get both diff covers off and get counting. Shame something like that might have caused so many problems and £££
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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #63 on: February 13, 2012, 05:24:51 PM »

 So stretched chain, fucked bearings, fucked chain, wouldn't make any difference?

Whichever, its been one of those days today, i am going out for some much needed estrella!
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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #64 on: February 13, 2012, 05:29:30 PM »

God knows. Lets see what the tooth count is. Trouble is, its cost me over a K including trip and trailer and ferry to 7s, etc and its the second one grrrr. Unless gasser put the wring one in the back......

Can there be anything in the tc that would hive the same result, as im told my 231 is fooked

Gasser would have been 100% - do as JamesH said.


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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #65 on: February 13, 2012, 05:58:36 PM »

Estrella???? Portugese Dog??

Tell me I'm wrong Willo :icon_rolleyes:
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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #66 on: February 13, 2012, 06:04:27 PM »

Estrella???? Portugese Dog??

Tell me I'm wrong Willo :icon_rolleyes:
Estrella Damm

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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #67 on: February 13, 2012, 06:09:52 PM »

God knows. Lets see what the tooth count is. Trouble is, its cost me over a K including trip and trailer and ferry to 7s, etc and its the second one grrrr. Unless gasser put the wring one in the back......

Can there be anything in the tc that would hive the same result, as im told my 231 is fooked

Gasser would have been 100% - do as JamesH said.






Gasser put two of my ARB's in the bin, which I pulled out and found nothing wrong with, so sorry if I don't agree with you on this one, but I wouldn't trust him as far as I could have thrown him. However in his defence, if the last owner had incorrectly informed me what ratio's were in, and Mark replaced like for like, then I can understand.

Clocking ring has been ordered!

so if my 231 IS fooked, there may be a SYE going begging, and Terra 2WD low
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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #68 on: February 13, 2012, 06:36:40 PM »

I found Gasser to be the man for axle problems - supercharges and strokers now that's another thing, we all have experience and a story to tell...

Hey I'm not the oracle on all things TJ I have been known to be wrong - please don't feel you have to agree with me, just like I don't have to share my experience and save people some hard earned mooolar.

Another day and we are all a bit wiser!!!
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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #69 on: February 13, 2012, 06:47:12 PM »

umm i have found that sometimes you will get a very slight difference in ratio front to rear in some set ups from the supplier 4.10 and the front as 4.95   or close i asume its an anomoly with certain gear sets to do with the ringear size.................. i may well be talking total arse
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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #70 on: February 13, 2012, 06:49:30 PM »

  just like I don't have to share my experience and save people some hard earned mooolar.


But it helps if you do :003:
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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #71 on: February 13, 2012, 07:18:19 PM »

maybe interested in in SYE if you go that way for future plans  :icon_winkle:
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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #72 on: February 13, 2012, 07:30:32 PM »

and rear prop to go with it  :greggmo:
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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #73 on: February 13, 2012, 07:48:57 PM »

Rear prop not very well, but all rebuild able i believe! :003:
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Re: TJ conundrum
« Reply #74 on: February 13, 2012, 08:00:07 PM »

wold make good spare for red truck, future upgrade for blue, let me know what you want  :greggmo:
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