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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2012, 09:41:04 PM »

 :banghead:
ouch sorry to hear that
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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2012, 10:11:12 PM »

It's sad to read this, Jay. Hope you pull it all together and week work. Had similar problem 10 years ago with Chrysler intrepid with lpg. Since this I don't use gas even in the lighter.have my zippo hehe. I know lpg make driving cheaper (especially Jeep) but I know personally at last 7 people who had same fire problem with gassed car and nobody on petrol . Good luck.
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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2012, 10:17:17 AM »

Cheers Jarek,

Its a fine line between if I spend a grand and get it sorted can I get another 2yrs motoring out of it, fairly trouble free.

Or What is it worth mullered a grand, then if I put another grand to that there isnt much Jeep / vehicle I can get for 2k.

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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2012, 03:46:33 PM »

Sorry to hear you are having problems with it Jay.

I recall we chatted about LPG a while back.

At this point, I'd pull all the plugs and do a compression test, then, assuming those numbers are OK, try a new set of plugs in there. Bit of a long shot really, but a badly flooded plug will never work properly again so worth a try at least.

I read that the 4.7 is an engine that has to have valve lube on LPG - did your installer include that?
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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2012, 04:04:56 PM »

Chris,

Already done it.

All new plugs in the following day, still no better, coils all swapped round to check those, still no better,

Yes it has the flash lube fitted and checked on a regular basis.

Pressure test done and its pressurising within seconds.
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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2012, 04:52:40 PM »

Are the 1 2 3 compression numbers a good match for the others in the engine?

Does sound like you've covered all the basics so maybe time to dig a bit deeper. The way it came on does sound a bit odd, mind.

Perhaps blown HG was a good call.....
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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2012, 08:31:10 PM »

Cheers Jarek,

Its a fine line between if I spend a grand and get it sorted can I get another 2yrs motoring out of it, fairly trouble free.

Or What is it worth mullered a grand, then if I put another grand to that there isnt much Jeep / vehicle I can get for 2k.



Welcome to my world Jay, look inside yourself..... are you ready for a 51 plate focus ??? ....... no ?  thought so.  The money is a very temporary short lived pain once you've got the WJ up and running again, trust me.


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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2012, 09:12:49 PM »

Are the 1 2 3 compression numbers a good match for the others in the engine?

Does sound like you've covered all the basics so maybe time to dig a bit deeper. The way it came on does sound a bit odd, mind.

Perhaps blown HG was a good call.....

When we have started to think about it, it has been smokey (white) especially on start up, MPG has recently dropped and I had a coolant leak which now I know was obviously due to the increased pressure build up.


Dutch - Errrr no. WJ will be on the mend very very soon. All been well booked in for this coming Monday.
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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2012, 07:43:38 PM »







Dutch - Errrr no. WJ will be on the mend very very soon. All been well booked in for this coming Monday.

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Sorry to hear about your woes Jay. If you dont mind me asking whats the quote for the fix
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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2012, 08:39:15 PM »

Around £600 to £700 mate.
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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2012, 10:21:15 PM »

i honestly think this needs to go back to the lpg installer
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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2012, 10:38:24 PM »

I cant believe that the Bishop was actually right all along with his sermon on LPG  :icon_eek:
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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #37 on: October 24, 2012, 11:08:07 AM »

i honestly think this needs to go back to the lpg installer

Kev,

I know what your saying, but surely they will just come back with wear and tear etc etc.
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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #38 on: October 25, 2012, 05:05:06 PM »

after just 8 months ? harsh fuckers if they dint come at least part way
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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #39 on: October 25, 2012, 10:52:31 PM »

I will give them a call, whats the best line to go down in my discussions?
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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #40 on: October 26, 2012, 05:03:45 PM »

I gave you a perfectly good jeep with no problems, you fitted lpg kit, now engine has blown headgasket, sounds to me like you set the lpg up wrong and too lean and engine has now over heated. ( don't mention going to france in it), mutter about going to see trading standards and they said you should approach them first.
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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #41 on: October 26, 2012, 08:09:42 PM »

also nagging in a dark corner of the back of my head is cylinders 1 2 3 are showing misfire so thats both banks of engine if gaskets are gone thats  awful bad luck compression on cylinders tested would make me more happy
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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #42 on: October 27, 2012, 08:21:14 AM »

Hopefully put your mind at rest. I think you'll find 1,2 and 3 are on the same bank. It's cylinder number not firing order.
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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #43 on: October 27, 2012, 10:12:10 AM »

 :017: i hope you are correct as that would help alay my thoughts i have always referred to cylinders by firing order and assumed that was the norm as it had been even at work
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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #44 on: October 27, 2012, 10:52:42 AM »

Left bank is odd numbers, right bank is even. It's both heads unfortunately.

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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #45 on: October 27, 2012, 02:10:06 PM »

I stand corrected.
My BMW counts 1 to 4 left bank 5 to 8 right, Chrysler obviously like to do things differently, my Jeep is the girlie version with only 5 pots in it, so I've not needed that info.
Looks like its down to old fashion compression testing.
Having said that, considering it's going in for major surgery and the likely cause of it, if it was mine I think I'd consider having both sides done anyway.

Good luck.
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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #46 on: October 27, 2012, 04:53:09 PM »

if confirmed both heads would be the natural cource
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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #47 on: October 28, 2012, 01:52:57 PM »

When ever your free Kev, its here for you to do compression test then we can tow it to yours.
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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #48 on: October 28, 2012, 01:57:31 PM »

When ever your free Kev, its here for you to do compression test then we can tow it to yours.

Jay, wondered about that: thought you couldn't tow a WJ..... permanent 4wd and all that jazz
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Re: Jeep WJ Major Misfire
« Reply #49 on: October 28, 2012, 05:48:54 PM »

Main gerabox in Park, Transfer case in Neutral like an Xj or TJ maybe or cant you do that with a GC set up ?
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