Topic: Jeep WJ Major Misfire (Read 15543 times)

Jonny Jeep · « **Reply #50 on:** October 28, 2012, 06:16:36 PM »

WJ FSM states all wheels off ground.

Bubba · « **Reply #51 on:** October 28, 2012, 07:24:22 PM »

sorta what i thought

gazjeep · « **Reply #52 on:** October 28, 2012, 07:43:01 PM »

Any joy today then ?

Dutch · « **Reply #53 on:** October 28, 2012, 07:44:24 PM »

Quote from: Jonny Jeep on October 28, 2012, 06:16:36 PM

WJ FSM states all wheels off ground.

Hmmm thought so, didn't want you to add transmission/drivetrain issues to your woes

Bubba · « **Reply #54 on:** October 29, 2012, 04:33:35 PM »

any responce from lpg installer ?

jay140285 · « **Reply #55 on:** October 29, 2012, 10:19:57 PM »

Its been LPG'd 18months,

Emailed him but is response is that its not going to be the LPG installation etc etc etc, TBH I just need to get it fixed.

Parts ordered, just need Kev to do his test then I will get it recovered to his on Trailer or Low loader.

Bubba · « **Reply #56 on:** October 30, 2012, 08:45:02 AM »

i have a mate with a recovery truck round the corner from me

jay140285 · « **Reply #57 on:** October 31, 2012, 10:43:46 AM »

How much would he want?

Bubba · « **Reply #58 on:** October 31, 2012, 07:05:45 PM »

not sure he is a mate but still have no idea

jay140285 · « **Reply #59 on:** October 31, 2012, 10:51:01 PM »

Question, how is towing it off an A frame any different to driving it?

Dutch · « **Reply #60 on:** October 31, 2012, 11:16:28 PM »

I think that the engine has to run to pump your fluids around.

Google is inconclusive. There seems to be inconsistancies between 4wd & 2wd jeep models.

this makes sence though : Never flat tow an automatic in neutral, if the internals of the trans moves and rotates with out the proper fluid flow, you will burn out the trans before you get to your destination.

Do I really have to go out in the rain now to get my service manual ?

Dutch · « **Reply #61 on:** October 31, 2012, 11:28:08 PM »

Got it anyway

Tow hooks on your vehicle are for emergency use only, to rescue a vehicle stranded off road.

DO NOT use tow hooks for tow truck hook up or highway towing. You could damage your vehicle.

Dutch · « **Reply #62 on:** October 31, 2012, 11:41:47 PM »

Have a look here http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?t=208520

Still contradicting themselves. I for one wouldn't do it

big g · « **Reply #63 on:** October 31, 2012, 11:51:40 PM »

Drop the props.

Lornaben · « **Reply #64 on:** November 01, 2012, 03:11:40 AM »

Lukemagnum · « **Reply #65 on:** November 01, 2012, 09:49:58 AM »

The transfer box is designed to keep both output shafts turning at the same speed. If say, the rear output starts turning faster (ie. the rear wheels are spinning in mud) the mechanism effectively starts to lock up the rear shaft which progressively diverts power to the front one until both are rotating at the same speed again.

If the rear shaft only is forcibly turned by towing by rear wheels only, the TB will try to lock it up expecting the power to go to the front. Since the engine is off, there is no power and the TB will constantly try to stop the rear axle from turning. This will happen even if it's in N and will soon destroy the TB.

By the way, the same happens if you try driving in 2WD with one of the props removed.

If you tow with all 4 on the ground both shafts turn at the same speed so no problem.

It's easier for a manufacture to say never tow under any circumstances to save any confusion and lawsuits.

Personally I would not have problem towing my GC on all 4 with auto in P and TB in N. It's your Jeep and your cash so it's your call. If in doubt, as mentioned dis the props, it's easy on these as you don't even have to jack it up.

On the issue of towing eye points, take a look how well these are welded onto the main chassis rails. I've
towed plenty of cars using these. I've got a bar which is specifically designed to use these eyes and it's got a spring device to cushion the pull, have a look in the Screwfix catalogue.

jay140285 · « **Reply #66 on:** November 01, 2012, 11:26:49 AM »

I was going to borrow Tank's A Frame (Tank can I borrow your A Frame please).

I thought that dropping the props off would be ok, its about 8no 10mm bolts isnt it at each end?

So is the consensus that removing the props and towing flat on all fours will be ok?

bigjeepzj · « **Reply #67 on:** November 01, 2012, 11:43:11 AM »

jay I had to have a 4x4 towed in the states many years a go.
the tow guy dropped the props and there was no prob

jay140285 · « **Reply #68 on:** November 01, 2012, 11:45:43 AM »

Cool, will drop tank a line for the A Frame in that case.

demonicwillow · « **Reply #69 on:** November 01, 2012, 12:26:54 PM »

As previously mentioned towing with the transmission in P and the transfer box in N is fine, you can tow quite along way too, with the auto box in P then its locked so nothing rotates, with the transfer box in N this allows the truck to be moved, the front shaft is viscous coupled so no wind up and the transfer box fluid pump is driven off the rear output shaft so lubricates the transfer box when its actually moving

when you do your compression test if its possible get Kev to do a cylinder leak test too

Lukemagnum · « **Reply #70 on:** November 01, 2012, 01:46:32 PM »

I can't take the suspense any longer.

If I lived closer I'd come round now and take the props off for you.

....and offer a tow!

Bubba · « **Reply #71 on:** November 01, 2012, 08:02:30 PM »

well supposing the props were of and a frame was attached what is doing the towing ? cos you wj is bigger than a zj ?

jay140285 · « **Reply #72 on:** November 01, 2012, 08:07:53 PM »

Errrr Drag it off the XJ if we need to Kev, just go the route that doesnt involve the motorway to yours.

isle of man · « **Reply #73 on:** November 01, 2012, 08:22:34 PM »

Frankly my dear I don't give a dam!!!

jay140285 · « **Reply #74 on:** November 02, 2012, 11:40:20 AM »

Bubba mobile mechanics will be out this afternoon,

Tank's supplied the Frame.

GazJeep vehicle collection and delivery services is booked in to provide the tow rig as the Panzer is a weighty beast.

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