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mrtibbs

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Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« on: November 16, 2012, 02:25:52 PM »

Hi all
When we were returning home from Bournemouth on Monday, about 1/2 an hour into the journey Sharon suddenly noticed that we had lost power (she was driving obviously...:)) and the car seemed to have lost power. No lights came on the dashboard and the engine ran fine, just felt as though there was no turbo, massive power loss. Everything else was fine. We drove on for a while to see if the fault would clear itself but it did not. Eventually we pulled into a service area to use the loo and when we restarted the car, the fault had cleared and we drove the rest of the way home without problems....
It drove fine on Tuesday when I drove it a short distance and yesterday I drove it to Saffron Waldon without the problem showing up, however about 20 minutes into the return journey it dumped power and felt like it had gone into a limp home mode, and it struggled to reach 60MPH :(. I switched it off and restarted the engine straight away and everything was back to normal all the way home, no problems.
Can anyone point at what could be causing this please?
Thanks in advance

Keith
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Lukemagnum

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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2012, 02:46:42 PM »

Have you got any fault codes stored in the ECU?
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mrtibbs

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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2012, 03:40:30 PM »

Hi Luke
I have no way of getting the codes out, so I don't know. Sorry...

Keith
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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2012, 04:05:30 PM »

Need to get an OBD 2 scanner plugged in & see what it tells you  :icon_winkle:
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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2012, 04:11:35 PM »

 :iagree:

The brain is obviously deciding it needs to do something so it should record its decision ....

Elektrickery, don't ya just love it  :011:

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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2012, 04:15:30 PM »

Post up the fault code / codes & some clever smart arse will be able to give you a pointer  :icon_winkle:
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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2012, 04:20:01 PM »

Switch your ignition on 4 times in quick succession then leave it on. Any codes will come up in the odometer display.
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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2012, 04:46:03 PM »

Had this prob on a Ford diesel C Max and,after loads of people not knowing was the actual turbo that was at fault

Something about the vanes not doing what they should and therefore no boost and ...... Then OK for a few days....
started 3 years ago and only happened about twice a year so difficult to diagnose until it became regular occurrence...

turbo replacement.....job done ........ So was my wallet.... :icon_twisted:

Hope Tis not the same on yours but thought I better give you the heads up just in case
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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2012, 05:22:00 PM »

like it had gone into a limp home mode, and it struggled to reach 60MPH

Limp home mode on the grand 2.7 CRD is 2nd gear 20 mls. max so you don't have that.

As said above key in ignition on/off for 4 (or5) times in quick succession and see what the odo says.
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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2012, 05:44:31 PM »

Switch your ignition on 4 times in quick succession then leave it on. Any codes will come up in the odometer display.
Hi Luke
Tried that trick but no good, just get the gear range and mileage displayed???
Thanks for your (and all the others) help though, I will try to find someone local that has an OBD2 scanner that will help me...

Keith
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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2012, 05:46:32 PM »

Keith what grand is it WJ or WK.

the key trick is for the WJ. Dunno if its the same for WK.
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mrtibbs

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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2012, 06:34:17 PM »

Hi Dutch
Stupid of me I guess, I should have said.... Not sure but I think it is a WK. It is a 2005 3.0 CRD, it is the newer (not the newest....) Grand with the Mercedes engine....

Keith
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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2012, 06:57:12 PM »

Yours is a WK then.

Haven't tried it as mine is the earlier WJ, switching it 3 times should do your model and it should show in the digital display in the tacho.

Lets us know!!
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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2012, 10:20:19 PM »

This happend to mine same year the tubo pipe leaked on to something (can't remember what) stealership sorted it out about £300ish
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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2012, 12:54:23 AM »

my scanner off fleablag 20 squid, can cancel codes too

to get the codes up on the dash ode Off-On-Off-On-Off-On with the key, displays code then done.  When i say on, thats to the dash lights not start it up, so off position on to lights 3 times last on leave it there and up come codes, post the code i have em all
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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2012, 08:42:16 PM »

my scanner off fleablag 20 squid, can cancel codes too

to get the codes up on the dash ode Off-On-Off-On-Off-On with the key, displays code then done.  When i say on, thats to the dash lights not start it up, so off position on to lights 3 times last on leave it there and up come codes, post the code i have em all

Hi
I just went out and switched the ignition on 3 times in quick succession but got no codes, just the display telling me my MPG....
I switched it On-Off-On-Off-On and left it till all the warning lights were out but nothing changed on the display at the bottom of the rev counter.
Thanks for the help though :(

Keith
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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2012, 09:15:33 PM »

where do you live?
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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2012, 10:48:31 PM »

Kettering, Northants.

Keith
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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2012, 10:52:16 PM »

shame you are not a bit closer to brum there are a few of us with obd readers, who could have  plugged them in. might be as cheap to buy one yourself rather than come here
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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2012, 11:10:40 PM »

is it going ok now or still the same? do these have a dpf fitted? when was it last serviced?
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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2012, 05:05:10 AM »

Thanks for the response. It was working OK when I last drove it, but this seems to be an intermittent thing. It has happened twice now and then only after driving it for a few miles so I can't seem to just jump in and replicate it at will. Sorry I don;t know what a "dpf" is. It was serviced about a year ago now, but not by a Jeep dealer or specialist.

Keith
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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2012, 07:22:06 AM »

there is a jeep specialist in northampton,
I'll get their no off me dad cos they have my dads crd which has ISSUES :banghead:
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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2012, 10:00:57 AM »

dpf = diesel particulate filter.

Its a system that alledgedly cleans up the emmisions. Supposed to collect all the soot from the exhaust & then when its fills up, on a decent run over say 20 mins while everything is up to temp, burns it up & blows it out of the exhaust.

Beets me how collecting the crap & dumping it in one go as opposed to just letting it out is more "green" but there you go.

Sometimes if you only do short journeys, they get bunged up as they dont get hot enough to blow it out.

Or something like that  :003:
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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2012, 10:52:59 AM »

Apparently the DPF collects the soot or carbon and burns it off into CO2 on a long run to clear it.

Ironically, the Government doesn't give a shit about how much carbon you produce, but that didn't stop them robbing the best part of £600 from me in VED because they think that me and my two motors throw out more CO2 than your average rep pounding up the motorways in their eco-friendlys!




BTW, nothing against all you hard working sales reps, my beef is with the Government who get their facts wrong and pick on the wrong people.

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Re: Grand Cherokee CRD intermittant power loss, help please?
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2012, 04:36:58 PM »

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