Birty Dastards Jeep Club

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  
Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5   Go Down

Author Topic: Winching upgrades or not?????  (Read 13393 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

wildwood

  • The 1 Tonne Kid
  • Marshal
  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 14
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5921
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #50 on: March 27, 2013, 11:53:52 PM »

A Birty Group Buy by Dutch sounds the biz.......... 125foot of 11mm with hook and in grey would be nice....... Bet a few would also go for this......

Saw some in Pink ....... Cancer charity.......much as I support cancer charity and others I cannot bring myself to pink string up front :jpshakehead:.........she cried expectantly :icon_twisted:
Logged

thorna

  • Guest
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #51 on: March 28, 2013, 12:57:50 AM »

 :iagree:
I need the same!
Logged

gazjeep

  • Marshal
  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 9
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7280
  • Vehicle: TJ - Der Panzer - CBR
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #52 on: March 28, 2013, 01:07:44 AM »

Could be up for this, think I have 100 foot on our EP9i, wonder what the capacity is ?

Whats the recomended life span of this stuff, I ask as ours has been on the drum for at least 5 years ?

Do keep a stretchy cover over the winch though to protect from road salt & UV.
Logged
Taking ya girl to heaven & back

Dutch

  • The Curator
  • Club Member
  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 12
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5798
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #53 on: March 28, 2013, 10:02:27 AM »

I see on the Liros website that they have a factory sale section.

With the above shown intrest can we collate who needs string, what diameter and how much?

Off course if we can agree on 1 diameter say 10 or 12 mil. we can investigate ordering a reel for several hundred meters
and see what the cost is.

Dunno if they do the carbon grey, 10 mil. 40 metres incl. hook, plug and play but looks that way. 

I see that their 'carbon grey' 10 mil. rope is :
dekanewton [daN]:  8500
kilogram-force [kgf]:  8667

If they are not inclined to sell retail, I have good contacts with a yacht rigger who could buy wholesale and
let us have it at mate-rates.

You come up with what you want and I can do the leg work.

Logged

Jeepless :-( 2006 Chrysler Crossfire Roadster 3.2 V6 - 1993 Yamaha FJ1200

gazjeep

  • Marshal
  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 9
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7280
  • Vehicle: TJ - Der Panzer - CBR
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #54 on: March 28, 2013, 10:39:33 AM »

Really struggling to find out how much rope I can fit onto my superwinch EP9 i, obviously would like to get near the maximum I can, whatever it is

Just so we are clear, are we talking about sourcing an appropriate length complete with hook already spliced on / attached so its just a case of straight forward replacement ?

Wonder if we can get the sheathy bit that you get on the hook end too

As soon as I can find out about the length then I'll join the party.

Logged
Taking ya girl to heaven & back

Dutch

  • The Curator
  • Club Member
  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 12
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5798
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #55 on: March 28, 2013, 11:18:45 AM »

Just sent an email to the Liros factory to enquire wether they will sell to me direct.

That is either few hundred metres of carbon 10 mil. rope on a reel or inbetween 5 & 10 plug & play Rope + hook + termination in either 30 or 40 metre lengths.

Keep you posted.
Logged

Jeepless :-( 2006 Chrysler Crossfire Roadster 3.2 V6 - 1993 Yamaha FJ1200

willo

  • Guru
  • *
  • Guru: 0
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3699
  • Vehicle: CJ7
  • Year: 1982
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #56 on: March 28, 2013, 11:35:00 AM »

10mm rope :banghead: :banghead: I was on 12mm last year, do yourselves a favour and at least get 11mm
Logged

Dutch

  • The Curator
  • Club Member
  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 12
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5798
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #57 on: March 28, 2013, 11:53:44 AM »

10mm rope :banghead: :banghead: I was on 12mm last year, do yourselves a favour and at least get 11mm

Ok got that  :icon_rolleyes:  what SWL are we looking for 12 ton? Help me out here.....capiche !!
Logged

Jeepless :-( 2006 Chrysler Crossfire Roadster 3.2 V6 - 1993 Yamaha FJ1200

wildwood

  • The 1 Tonne Kid
  • Marshal
  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 14
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5921
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #58 on: March 28, 2013, 12:10:16 PM »

All things on t'web seem to point to 11mm as being good for 8274s and 9.5 warn type winches
I'm sure 12 is even better but ya got to stop somewhere.

so are we agreed on 11mm?
In 125 and 100 foot lengths?
Logged

gazjeep

  • Marshal
  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 9
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7280
  • Vehicle: TJ - Der Panzer - CBR
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #59 on: March 28, 2013, 12:22:09 PM »

Seems like a plan to me Hippster  :icon_super:
Logged
Taking ya girl to heaven & back

Delk

  • Guest
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #60 on: March 28, 2013, 01:09:19 PM »

The ropes are easy to splice so you dont really have to worry about that. Just get the bits and pieces and you can put what you want on the end.
Logged

Dutch

  • The Curator
  • Club Member
  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 12
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5798
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #61 on: March 28, 2013, 01:17:12 PM »

The ropes are easy to splice so you dont really have to worry about that. Just get the bits and pieces and you can put what you want on the end.

Can you splice Delk ?  ....... a plan is forming : get rope and hardware, fwd to you, you do the rigger bits. Ply you with ale & jaffa cakes.  Cut out the middle men.

I know the principle of splicing dyneema, and seen it done often enough, double back in itself and the harder you pull the firmer the splice but never (needed) to attempt it.
Logged

Jeepless :-( 2006 Chrysler Crossfire Roadster 3.2 V6 - 1993 Yamaha FJ1200

JamesH

  • Club Member
  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 1
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4998
  • Vehicle: JK
  • Year: 2010
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #62 on: March 28, 2013, 01:19:13 PM »

 Splicing is not too tricky, I've done new hooks and stuff.

What's the recommended rope rating to winch strength factor? I've always used 10mm dyneema (c. 9000kg break) on a 4500kg winch, should it be a 2x, 3x or more factor? I've never had a break but could have just been lucky.
Logged

willo

  • Guru
  • *
  • Guru: 0
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3699
  • Vehicle: CJ7
  • Year: 1982
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #63 on: March 28, 2013, 01:51:43 PM »

If you cant splice dyneema i suggest you had all your jeepin stuff over, 3 passes and chuck it down itself. All you need is a chopstick a very sharp knife and some tape. A few beers and stereo on.

Used winchrope? Now thats another kettle of fish.

I am surprised you havent tried a group buy with david bowyer. If 150' of 11mm is the right price i'd be interested
Logged

ivanidea

  • Expat - Livin' the dream...
  • Admin
  • Forum Member
  • **
  • Guru: 1
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2367
  • Vehicle: Jeep Wrangler JL - 2dr Willys
  • Year: 2021
  • Florida
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #64 on: March 28, 2013, 02:29:20 PM »

I had previously been sent a link to splicing rope, but have lost it.

Since I already have a hook from my old rope, I'm quite happy to have a go at splicing.  I think the 11mm rope is the one to go for, and I would be interested in at least 100', possibly more to allow for splicing mistakes.
Logged
Current Jeep: 2021 Willys 2dr 3.6 Auto. Sarge Green + Tan Top.
Former Jeep (USA): 2016 Renegade 2.4L 75th Anniversary 4WD Auto.
Former Jeeps (UK): 2000 Cherokee 2.5TD Sport Manual, 2001 TJ Sport 4.0 Manual, 2008 Liberty 2.8CRD Limited Auto, 2011 JKU 2.5CRD Limited Auto.

Dutch

  • The Curator
  • Club Member
  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 12
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5798
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #65 on: March 28, 2013, 02:30:13 PM »

If you cant splice dyneema i suggest you had all your jeepin stuff over, 3 passes and chuck it down itself. All you need is a chopstick a very sharp knife and some tape. A few beers and stereo on.

Used winchrope? Now thats another kettle of fish.

I am surprised you havent tried a group buy with david bowyer. If 150' of 11mm is the right price i'd be interested

Fook me Mr. O .... who p*ssed in your weatabix this morning?
Logged

Jeepless :-( 2006 Chrysler Crossfire Roadster 3.2 V6 - 1993 Yamaha FJ1200

willo

  • Guru
  • *
  • Guru: 0
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3699
  • Vehicle: CJ7
  • Year: 1982
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #66 on: March 28, 2013, 02:41:19 PM »

No-one. Thats the danger of text. I wrote with a chuckle and you read with a willos got the grump again. Perhaps i should write in green for happy go lucky text and red for you feckin isiots why cant you sort it out grrr etc.

Iom should write in pink ..... Heehee hoo hooharhar
Logged

Cockney Boy

  • Guest
Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #67 on: March 28, 2013, 03:22:24 PM »

Iom should write in pink ..... Heehee hoo hooharhar

Harsh but quite true lol
Logged

gazjeep

  • Marshal
  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 9
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7280
  • Vehicle: TJ - Der Panzer - CBR
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #68 on: March 28, 2013, 04:24:23 PM »

Mr Bowyer himself recomends 100ft x 10mm for my set up, so if the plan is to go for 10 or 11, i'm in the queue  :icon_super:
Logged
Taking ya girl to heaven & back

Delk

  • Guest
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #69 on: March 28, 2013, 05:16:35 PM »

The splicing is easy enough that I don't think shipping it is worth the cost. You can just send the ale and keep the rope. Our lifting and rigging guy that surveys our boats showed me in two minutes flat. He is also my test weight since he is just under 30 stones!

Grumpy Willo is spot on with the chop stick for getting down the middle. Pass the rope through its side, down seven stitches and back out. Tighten your first braid then repeat three more times before passing the remaining bit down the middle. I have been using four ins and outs on my rope and never had an issue.

As for the size of the rope more depends on life expectency then breaking strength. A 11mm rope will take a lot more damage and wear then a 10mm before causing issues.
Logged

isle of man

  • بعض العضو التناسلي النسوي...
  • Club Member
  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 6
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 11536
  • Vehicle: G-Class AKA “The G spot”
  • Take the road less travelled...
    • http://www.4x4.im
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #70 on: March 28, 2013, 05:28:06 PM »

Iom should write in pink ..... Heehee hoo hooharhar

Harsh but quite true lol


I Have the Lithuanian on stand by!!
Logged
"Not all those who wander are lost"

JamesH

  • Club Member
  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 1
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4998
  • Vehicle: JK
  • Year: 2010
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #71 on: March 28, 2013, 05:31:39 PM »

As for the size of the rope more depends on life expectency then breaking strength. A 11mm rope will take a lot more damage and wear then a 10mm before causing issues.

That makes sense and maybe explains why challenge trucks like thicker rope, they use it much more often that I do so need the durability. Thanks Delk.
Logged

MOCAJ

  • Club Member
  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 4
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6366
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #72 on: March 28, 2013, 07:08:51 PM »

I Have the Lithuanian on stand by!!

Nice one, i have a list, can he do a job lot
Logged
short term jeep owner since 2005, every truck is a never ending project. Birtys, the best club in Jeepland

Cockney Boy

  • Guest
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #73 on: March 28, 2013, 07:13:35 PM »

I Have the Lithuanian on stand by!!

Nice one, i have a list, can he do a job lot

I have Charlie who does reasonable rates
Logged

Dutch

  • The Curator
  • Club Member
  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 12
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5798
Re: Winching upgrades or not?????
« Reply #74 on: March 28, 2013, 08:38:37 PM »

Ok we're all touchy feely, lovey again.  IOM in pink ......can live with that  :003:

One reel @ 300 metres or so (depending on punters) 11 mil. carbon Dyneema.

Lets see what the krauts come back with....... (oh shit, offended BD now) ..... der bruder von das fatherland.

Got me road trip to Cloggie land tomoz so may be off the air for a bit.

Logged

Jeepless :-( 2006 Chrysler Crossfire Roadster 3.2 V6 - 1993 Yamaha FJ1200
Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5   Go Up
 

Powered by EzPortal