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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2009, 01:53:09 PM »

ever thought about doing simple ,odifiactions without removing the majority of the floor pan
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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #51 on: June 19, 2009, 04:06:01 PM »

ever thought about doing simple ,odifiactions without removing the majority of the floor pan

Yeah, but i would get what i want...... i am by no means a pro or know it all when it comes to offroad 4links or what makes a rig do what. but i knew what i wanted to be able todo. High speed bombing runs (lots of skinny pedal in open space), massive amounts of flex for slow crawling, and a predicable rig. that lead me to alot of reading, research, 4link write ups and then more rereading to understand things. which in the end was just as deadly as knowing nothing, b/c now i know just enough(or so i think i do! lol)
but if youve ever looked at comp rigs in the states you can find all sorts of different link set ups, i went with fairly simple link angles with lots of adjustment. at the right angles and lengths this is give very small changes in how it acts as the axle moves........

in the end if you know what you want - its not really hard, you just have to commit to it and run with it. it will all be flat boxed in the end with storage under it. alot like a 90 lol
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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #52 on: June 19, 2009, 07:38:29 PM »

" I am no means a pro"  :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:

with what you are doing and the last project you did, you cant call yourself an ameture. The research and build quality/look is just as good as any pro shop build. Looking forward to seeing the finished article.


does the picture show the the rear axle fully adjustable for nose angle ?
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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #53 on: June 19, 2009, 08:57:19 PM »

jj that is lookin sexy  :icon_super: :icon_super:
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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #54 on: June 19, 2009, 10:34:05 PM »

with what you are doing and the last project you did, you cant call yourself an ameture.
the last build never got finished and almost ended me..........
The research and build quality/look is just as good as any pro shop build. Looking forward to seeing the finished article.
thanks - i do try but still nowhere near how i want things. most of what you see, even as simple as the the lower axle mounts have been remade a few times over. and im usally happy while im making it and pissed off about it a day later lol
does the picture show the the rear axle fully adjustable for nose angle ?
i take it you mean pinion - drive shaft angle??? nope the rear is point almost dead straight at the rear of the t-case. which looks to be almost stock spot for the mogs. the adjustable upper mount on the frame are to change the way the suspension behaves. the lower the mounting hole the higher the anti-squat goes. but no matter where it is the number wont change much over 10degrees from ride height to full bump :icon_super:

if anyone doesnt understand my ramblings please let me know...... im not great at explaining whats in my head all the time
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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #55 on: June 19, 2009, 10:56:23 PM »

started mocking up the front links, i knew this was gonna be a pita but geeze man.........

front cross member - same as the rear, just didnt need to be shaved to clear the tranny like the rear did for the t-case

lower frame mounts - will be exactly like the rears

frame upper mounts - this is where the problems start

tried to measure and mock things, but still not sure - but pretty sure the tire will rub the links
lower is easy to fix upper..........yeah yeah yeah
i put it outside the frame cause at full bump the link itself wants to hit the bottom of the motor mount
left side is tight with the driveshaft and exhaust - right side is tight with the starter motor

i see more chopping and a set of bent upper links coming :icon_twisted:
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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #56 on: June 20, 2009, 12:18:49 AM »

 :023: Damn that Redbull must work, looking good mate.

I know its a bit ahead of where ya at at the mo. However you mentioned about the seating arrangement and alike last week. Pulled these of Pirate awhile back, may be of some help. Nicely ties into the cage.





At this pace ya gonna be ready for the Kirton Camp for a shake down :icon_wink:
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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #57 on: June 20, 2009, 06:16:03 AM »

:023: Damn that Redbull must work, looking good mate.
REDBULL GIVES YOU WINGSSSSSS
At this pace ya gonna be ready for the Kirton Camp for a shake down :icon_wink:
SHHHHHHHHHHH the monkey will hear you!
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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #58 on: June 21, 2009, 08:29:39 PM »

still dealing with the front upper link issues, but i got some ideas and alittle done here and there.......

this is the front cross member, same as the rear just not tapered to clear the tcase
and it only took me half a day and a good handful of wasted metal - still need bracing and what not

now thats a stance - still small tires if you ask me -  :icon_twisted: -gonna have todo something bout that

now thats how it should have some from the factory, alittle lower and tilted
might even go lower with it


front and rear break over angles - killer even with small tires
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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #59 on: June 21, 2009, 09:20:06 PM »

like i said got the front lower links going, still needs some trimming, and bracing

then the uppers - just cant win this game


so bent uppers under the motor mount its is - blah blah blah

on a side note - this didnt get much better
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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #60 on: June 21, 2009, 09:47:21 PM »

looks too low and gay mate  :laugh: :laugh:
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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #61 on: June 21, 2009, 10:17:26 PM »

now now now - dont hate - you know its sexy :icon_super:
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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #62 on: June 21, 2009, 10:26:21 PM »

Looking good mate.

Seeing you working on your truck is making me feel lazy!!! :icon_redface:
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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #63 on: June 21, 2009, 10:40:49 PM »

good - get to it mate, you have enough small odds and ends to cover on yours. just do a couple bolts a day.........you got head torches :003:
ohhh and like i said - you better start doing your homework mister!!!!!!!! i better have some paper work to look over by the next time i see ya!
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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #64 on: June 25, 2009, 10:47:20 PM »

That is looking very cool mate.  :icon_super:

I like the link setup all around, not sure about the front lower link x-member though looks a bit weedy.

Those front upper links should clear 40's, mine are in nearly the same place and clear 38's by miles
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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #65 on: June 26, 2009, 07:54:52 PM »

ill find out this weekend - im going to mock it up on johnnys  or yours..... the frame side mounts are half way pieced together the axle is gonna get alittle more complicated
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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #66 on: July 05, 2009, 09:20:55 PM »

havent gotten alot of time on the jeep lately, work is complete crap and life just gets in the way. but slowly getting bits and pieces done.
cleaning the old of the frame is just urber slowwwwww


and with a set of extra hands decided to see what happens when you flex a three link with the panhard bar....

one eye'd flying purple people eater....

just gotta finish cleaning it up and get it straight and flat or at least as flat as i accept it :greggmo:
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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #67 on: July 06, 2009, 12:09:14 AM »

Looking good mate.
Even had time to cut Johns hair too, as noticed in these 2 images :003:



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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #68 on: July 06, 2009, 10:44:54 PM »

lookin cool :greggmo:
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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #69 on: July 12, 2009, 08:59:43 PM »

well my welder went tits up this weekend, so much for "good" weekend. with alittle help from the wife - we got something done, the relay for the wire feed was stuck on, so basicly she turned it on and off while i was holding the trigger - talk bout a pita. lol
we were both wanting to "see something" - so time for the backend trimming
before.....



 :icon_super: :icon_twisted: :jump_125: :005:





ill get the part for the welder tomorrow, hopefully finish front frame and link mounts, and see what she looks like with all four wheels on the ground
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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #70 on: July 12, 2009, 09:14:19 PM »

thats sick, christ jj is there gona be any jeep left?  looks great, especialy like the way it looks from the back!
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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #71 on: July 13, 2009, 06:33:24 PM »

was it worth keeping anything on the back after that trimming  ?
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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #72 on: July 13, 2009, 09:17:09 PM »

thats sick, christ jj is there gona be any jeep left?  looks great, especialy like the way it looks from the back!
hey now, ya know i dont like jeeps..... :icon_twisted: no really, its all jeep, even used scrap from the trimming to fill in the holes, and patch the 2 dents your cj gave my tj

was it worth keeping anything on the back after that trimming  ?
sure, i want it to look like a rig, not a buggy, its still a jeep, it just has really big wheel openings
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« Reply #73 on: July 13, 2009, 09:32:47 PM »

so after a couple hours driving round the wife gave up looking for the part i needed for my welder and started calling around. hopefully well know something tomorrow.
since i couldnt weld, i cut more......................
no not more body - rear uppers, soon as i can weld ill box them in and the rear link mounts are finally finished



then started on the rear coilover mounts



the outer plate picks up on 5 bolts, inner plate picks up on 3 bolts
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Re: i have a monkey on my back
« Reply #74 on: July 14, 2009, 05:40:46 PM »

nice, i like your coil mount idea, hopefully it will be strong enough. rear links look clean
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