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AS90

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£2600 repair bill!
« on: September 15, 2007, 04:46:36 PM »

Ive just had a quote to repair the dodgy steering on my Grand, it came to £2600 :cry:

OSF CV joint (boot off, joint dry)
Power steering box leaking
Play in NSF track end
Play in NSF lower arm bush
Front diff leaking and whining
steering damper bushes unservicable
Play in NSF ball joints
Drag bar ball joint play
Antiroll D bushes worn
Play in rear axle tie bushes
Play in rear shock bushes
Excess end float in OSR axle end
Leak from transfer box and engine
Missfire on engine

Is there any way this can be done cheaper?
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2007, 05:01:02 PM »

my last workshop bill was four times that amount so count yourself lucky.




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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2007, 05:15:29 PM »

I'll give you £500 for the salvage.

But seriously, what model/year is it and what are your symptoms?
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2007, 05:55:38 PM »

ouchy that sounds like a resto job .

sell it buy a good one pocket the change
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Re: £2600 repair bill!
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2007, 07:10:47 PM »

Quote from: "AS90"
Ive just had a quote to repair the dodgy steering on my Grand, it came to £2600 :cry:


Is there any way this can be done cheaper?



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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2007, 12:41:12 AM »

sounds like someone thinks they can take the piss out of you mate. take it somewhere else and get another point of view.
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2007, 06:55:58 AM »

I have a front axle here, from a diesel, new swivel joints 50 squids    
PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:46 pm    Post subject: £2600 repair bill!
Ive just had a quote to repair the dodgy steering on my Grand, it came to £2600 Crying or Very sad

OSF CV joint (boot off, joint dry)-                     lube up &  put it back on
Power steering box leaking    -                           where abouts
Play in NSF track end             -                            eblag
Play in NSF lower arm bush    -                            eblag
Front diff leaking and whining  -                  re-seal/ turn the radio up
steering damper bushes unservicable-                  eblag
Play in NSF ball joints     -                                    eblag
Drag bar ball joint play    -                                      "
Antiroll D bushes worn    -                                       "
Play in rear axle tie bushes    -                                "
Play in rear shock bushes      -                           pro-comp
Excess end float in OSR axle end     -               they all have, replace c-clip
Leak from transfer box and engine -                don't they all
Missfire on engine           -                               cps or tps


don't be defeatist :lol:
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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2007, 11:31:43 AM »

i am with daggie on this was this a dealers or other [experts] :flagbs:
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2007, 12:46:44 PM »

sound like the stealers to me, i had a very similar experience

luckily i listened to the guys on here  8)
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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2007, 01:29:52 PM »

Quote from: "V8 Bubba"
i am with daggie on this was this a dealers or other [experts] :flagbs:


It was a 4x4 specialist, its the second one Ive been to with it, the first one just shook his head and said "its not a job we would do here" I told this place that if it was over £500 I wouldn't have anything done, so he had no reason to lie about it. If I fitted a new front axle what else would I still have to do and would the diesel axle offered above fit my 4.0?
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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2007, 01:44:47 PM »

Most of those problems should not cause 'dodgy' steering.

As for the term play, this is a little vague. We have new/nearly new cars and vans at work that have 'play' in some components.

I have to agree with Daggie and Kev.
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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2007, 03:37:05 PM »

Well I dont know what to do then, I dont want to get rid of the car as I love it but I am useless at anything mechanical. Its not just wobbley steering, the car limps on full lock, the missfire is annoying. Does anyone have a starter motor I could buy? Im going on Holiday in it to Tenby tomorrow, if anyone in South Wales has one going spare I could pick it up, at the moment I have to hit the solenoid with a hammer to start it  :oops:
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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2007, 05:21:43 PM »

If that list really is what's wrong,then that isn't too far out of the way pricewise.
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2007, 07:23:51 PM »

Still dont know what Jeep you have, but assuming it's a stock ZG 4.0, £2600 is probably more than it's worth. However it stil looks as if your problems haven't necessarily been diagnosed properly anyway.

What exactly do you mean by steering wobble? Is it there all the time? is it severe or slight? Speed related? A continuous speed related wobble is likeley to be wheel balance or a faulty tyre carcass.

If the Jeep seems to hop and it feels like you have to fight the steering on full lock, the viscous coupling in the transfer case could be siezed, which is a common problem. A quick way of checking this is to remove the front propshaft and see if the problem goes away.

An intermittant misfire on only one cylinder would probably be ignition related, plugs/leads/dizzy cap.

The CV joint, if it isn't making nasty noises on full lock, remove, clean it out, regrease and fit a new boot.

The worn joints and bushes could contribute to steering shake, replace as necessary, I think a diesel front axle will be the wrong ratio for a 4.0.  

A starter from a 97 on XJ or a TJ will fit if you can't find a Zg one.
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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2007, 10:42:14 PM »

I'd go and part exchange it somewhere
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« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2007, 11:42:21 PM »

To part exchange it you have to have more money to buy a better car! The wobble is the death rattles ie when I hit a bump it can rattle so much I nearly loose control and have to steadily slow down to rescue it. Its loosing water as well, I think the head gasket has blown, I lobbed in some K seal and that made it run a bit better but now I think its loosing water from the water pump.
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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2007, 06:02:07 AM »

AS90,    WHAT YEAR/ MODEL GRAND IS IT? !!!!  :)  :)
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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2007, 08:12:47 AM »

In May, AS90 posted
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Ive just bought a '97 Grand 4.0

Which would make it a ZG.
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« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2007, 09:28:53 AM »

Assuming your Jeep is unmodified, the DW is most likeley to be down to worn steering damper and its mounting bushes and/or the worn rod ends. Unbolt one end of the steering damper and try to compress and extend it by hand. You should get quite a lot of resistance through the full range of travel. If not or in doubt, replace it, they're not expensive and come with the mounting bushes as well. Once the damper is known to be good, replace the worn rod ends and bushes at the front and the problem should be sorted.
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2007, 12:53:13 PM »

We all have to pick up our first spanner sometime!
I don't see anything on your list that should stop you having a go as it were. Even if you make a complete balls of it the guys on here will help you get it back together for a lot less than £2.6k
 Hell they'd probably start a special thread for your rebuild or even one of them sticky, tacky, thingys and then just think how chuffed you'd be when you'd fixed it yourself.



Go on fix the bastard yourself,,,,,,,, I dare you.  :lol:
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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2007, 02:04:07 PM »

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Go on fix the bastard yourself,,,,,,,, I dare you.  :lol:



that's what waggers and i are doing for all future repairs for our wranglers......




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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2007, 06:23:35 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2007, 07:47:10 PM »

yup get yer spanners out and fix em yer self. it is kinda satisfying when ya can do some of the stuff on yer own and you will learn a lot. 8)
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« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2007, 07:01:38 PM »

Well it got me to tenby and back with a big caravan in tow (phew!) I would love to fix it myself but its my daily driver and I cant have bits of car all over my drive way for weeks. I'll have to take a loss on this one and try and find a decent cherry with the money I get for it. Any offers?
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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2007, 08:55:19 AM »

Coventry Transmissions are pretty good...... I've no connection to them but used them and saved myself several hundred pounds

http://www.jeepspares.co.uk/index.htm

"Services we provide include:

    * Transmission & driveline parts
    * Axles
    * Differentials
    * Transfer Boxes
    * Gearboxes
    * Propshafts
    * Driveshafts
    * Halfshafts
    * Limited slip clutch packs
    * Differential bearing kits
    * Wheel bearings
    * Crownwheel & pinion's
    * All ratio's
    * Steering Parts

Address
Unit 2
3 St Agathas Road
Stoke
Coventry
CV2-4DX

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(024) 76 635054"

 
I'd guess you can prioritize some of those jobs....
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