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Title: Steel rims for Cherokee/Wrangler??? 8 spokes or modular
Post by: 300bhp/ton on August 16, 2011, 10:03:46 AM
I'm not having a lot of luck finding these so hoping someone can help out.

Ideally I'm after a set of 16" either 16x7 or 16x8 steel rims to fit a pre face lift Cherokee XJ. I believe they have the same PCD as Wranglers and ZJ's.


5x144.3 with a 71.5 or 71.4 center bore.

What I wanted was something that looked like these:

(http://www.froggatts.co.uk/aa7.JPG)
(http://www.tamar4x4store.co.uk/images/uploads/GRW006.jpg)


Failing that I'm open to suggestions of other rims. However, I can buy 8 spokes for a Landy for £25-30 each new. So this is the sort of price range I'm thinking of. I don't mind new or 2nd hand though.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Steel rims for Cherokee/Wrangler??? 8 spokes or modular
Post by: terratology on August 16, 2011, 12:32:57 PM
There's some modulars at a scrappy in dorchester, 7x15. He says he's looking at around the 120 mark.
Title: Re: Steel rims for Cherokee/Wrangler??? 8 spokes or modular
Post by: Nosebolt on August 16, 2011, 12:43:30 PM
there has been cherry to lardy adaptors on ebay recently, that may be an option if you have a cheap supply of land rover wheels and tyres
Title: Re: Steel rims for Cherokee/Wrangler??? 8 spokes or modular
Post by: Dave69 on August 16, 2011, 01:37:35 PM
16x 8 steel rims are like hens teeth, the only chance you have is importing a set from the states, not even sure if jeep made a set of 16's in steel

landy adaptors might be the bset option
Title: Re: Steel rims for Cherokee/Wrangler??? 8 spokes or modular
Post by: bigjeepzj on August 16, 2011, 02:09:17 PM
I got my wheels from these guys in the states

http://www.cragarwheel.com/wheels/?id=55&first=4&fid=9 (http://www.cragarwheel.com/wheels/?id=55&first=4&fid=9)
 
They sell what your after

run 33" 10.5 on my zj with 4.5" lift
Title: Re: Steel rims for Cherokee/Wrangler??? 8 spokes or modular
Post by: 300bhp/ton on August 16, 2011, 02:46:54 PM
there has been cherry to lardy adaptors on ebay recently, that may be an option if you have a cheap supply of land rover wheels and tyres
Are you able to post a link? I had a look but couldn't see any. Ta. :)
Title: Re: Steel rims for Cherokee/Wrangler??? 8 spokes or modular
Post by: Nosebolt on August 16, 2011, 03:00:46 PM
your right, non on there atm, but its this sort of thing (http://www.ebay.co.uk/csc/i.html?_nkw=pcd+adapters&_sacat=0&_dmpt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&LH_Complete=1&_odkw=pcd+land+rover&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1311), if urgent, it may be worth getting some made
Title: Re: Steel rims for Cherokee/Wrangler??? 8 spokes or modular
Post by: scrw on August 16, 2011, 03:24:02 PM
Why do you want 16x8's?

15" tyres are cheaper, or maybe look at KJ wheels (16") and spacers.
Title: Re: Steel rims for Cherokee/Wrangler??? 8 spokes or modular
Post by: 300bhp/ton on August 16, 2011, 07:51:34 PM
your right, non on there atm, but its this sort of thing (http://www.ebay.co.uk/csc/i.html?_nkw=pcd+adapters&_sacat=0&_dmpt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&LH_Complete=1&_odkw=pcd+land+rover&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1311), if urgent, it may be worth getting some made
Found some on there, fuck me they are way over priced.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190353151970&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_1091wt_905 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190353151970&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_1091wt_905)

£273!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :banghead:

Considering you can buy some regular Jeep spacers for £120, I fail to see how drilling 5 the holes in slightly different places is suddenly worth an extra £150 on top.

This place have some listed too: http://www.rakeway.co.uk/page34.html (http://www.rakeway.co.uk/page34.html) but no prices. Just emailed them, hopefully they'll come back with something that doesn't need mortgaging.

Title: Re: Steel rims for Cherokee/Wrangler??? 8 spokes or modular
Post by: 300bhp/ton on August 16, 2011, 08:01:07 PM
Why do you want 16x8's?

15" tyres are cheaper, or maybe look at KJ wheels (16") and spacers.
Are 15's really that much cheaper?  :017:

Anywho... the reason is a little convoluted.

While I love my Jeeps, I also love my Landy's and my Uncle is a huge Landy nut (has 5 of them). So I've got easy access to Land Rover wheels (should the spacers prove a sensible option).

But more importantly plenty of tyres I could have access too, but nearly all are 16"

To further this, I'd like to raise my Jeep up a bit as I got stuck 3 times in it at the weekend where my Disco never did. Running 33's is probably a step too far, but some 235/85R16's would do the trick nicely at just over 31" tall and it won't cost me anything to "borrow" a set from my Uncle.

There doesn't seem to be 15" equivalent size.

If I'm sticking with 15", then tbh I'd probably stick with my stock rims and just add some spacers. Hope that sort of makes sense.

Title: Re: Steel rims for Cherokee/Wrangler??? 8 spokes or modular
Post by: MOCAJ on August 16, 2011, 09:01:06 PM
if you have no lift on an xj i think the max you can run is 30x1050x15

there are some for sale in that section at the mo  :icon_winkle:
Title: Re: Steel rims for Cherokee/Wrangler??? 8 spokes or modular
Post by: tim_aka_tim on August 16, 2011, 09:06:56 PM
 :timmy: You'll really need a 3" lift for an XJ on 31s. A bit more would be best.
Title: Re: Steel rims for Cherokee/Wrangler??? 8 spokes or modular
Post by: bigjeepzj on August 16, 2011, 09:18:18 PM
your right, non on there atm, but its this sort of thing (http://www.ebay.co.uk/csc/i.html?_nkw=pcd+adapters&_sacat=0&_dmpt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&LH_Complete=1&_odkw=pcd+land+rover&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1311), if urgent, it may be worth getting some made
Found some on there, fuck me they are way over priced.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190353151970&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_1091wt_905 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190353151970&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_1091wt_905)

£273!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :banghead:

Considering you can buy some regular Jeep spacers for £120, I fail to see how drilling 5 the holes in slightly different places is suddenly worth an extra £150 on top.

This place have some listed too: http://www.rakeway.co.uk/page34.html (http://www.rakeway.co.uk/page34.html) but no prices. Just emailed them, hopefully they'll come back with something that doesn't need mortgaging.


they d'not even give you any wheel nuts for that  :hysterical: :hysterical:
Title: Re: Steel rims for Cherokee/Wrangler??? 8 spokes or modular
Post by: terratology on August 17, 2011, 12:39:58 PM
I just bought a XJ for spares and it has to be what looks like Ford Explorer wheels with 7.50x16's on them. So if you want 16's thats another option as there pretty cheap on the bay.
Title: Re: Steel rims for Cherokee/Wrangler??? 8 spokes or modular
Post by: 300bhp/ton on August 17, 2011, 01:46:40 PM
if you have no lift on an xj i think the max you can run is 30x1050x15

there are some for sale in that section at the mo  :icon_winkle:
Lift will be going on at the same time, also don't mind trimming the arches. I used to run 34" tall Simex's on a stock ride height Disco, despite being told I couldn't  :icon_biggrin:

I'll have a look at the 30's, although aren't they normally 9.50 wide not 10.50? Really wanting a bit taller tyre though, hence the 235/85R16's, they come in at about 31.7" tall.
Title: Re: Steel rims for Cherokee/Wrangler??? 8 spokes or modular
Post by: 300bhp/ton on August 17, 2011, 01:51:51 PM
I just bought a XJ for spares and it has to be what looks like Ford Explorer wheels with 7.50x16's on them. So if you want 16's thats another option as there pretty cheap on the bay.
Thanks.

Had a look here: http://www.wheelfitment.eu/steekmaat.php?merk=Ford&merk2=Ford (http://www.wheelfitment.eu/steekmaat.php?merk=Ford&merk2=Ford)

Seems the center bore is about 8mm out. But solvable non the less. Cheers.
Title: Re: Steel rims for Cherokee/Wrangler??? 8 spokes or modular
Post by: Nosebolt on August 17, 2011, 02:34:49 PM
not 16s but steel and may be useful (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/jeep-grand-cherokee-wheels-and-very-good-tyres-/110728096972?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Rims_Car_Wheels_ET&hash=item19c7e8accc)
Title: Re: Steel rims for Cherokee/Wrangler??? 8 spokes or modular
Post by: scrw on August 17, 2011, 03:33:33 PM
if only running 235 width tyre I would just get some KJ cherokee wheels, they are all 16", and if need be a set of spacers.
Title: Re: Steel rims for Cherokee/Wrangler??? 8 spokes or modular
Post by: Dave69 on August 17, 2011, 08:47:40 PM
7.5x16 (235/16) sit around 31" depending on make
Title: Re: Steel rims for Cherokee/Wrangler??? 8 spokes or modular
Post by: 300bhp/ton on August 19, 2011, 10:49:24 AM
Got a price back from Rakeway for their adapters.


£240+VAT (and shipping I presume). So about £300.


 :headhack:


Am I missing something here?????  :017:

Why are they so pricey? Is it just profiteering?

Llama4x4 sell some straight up wheel spacers for £65/pair.

Surely an adapter is just a spacer with 5 out of the 10 holes drilled in a slightly different place to a spacer?
Title: Re: Steel rims for Cherokee/Wrangler??? 8 spokes or modular
Post by: JamesH on August 19, 2011, 11:42:39 AM
Economies of scale

and you'll need lift, bumpstop and trim for 235/85/16