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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Bubba on November 19, 2004, 08:39:10 PM

Title: parts from the states
Post by: Bubba on November 19, 2004, 08:39:10 PM: methinks i might have to order me some parts from fwd soon
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Post by: Manda on November 19, 2004, 08:58:41 PM: I need a visit from 4wd santa too. I found me a snazzy Protech rear bumper. MMMmmm 4wd
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Post by: Anonymous on November 19, 2004, 09:24:58 PM: Got to mail Steve at NSM this weekend he imports Quadratech stuff if its any help
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Post by: Bubba on November 19, 2004, 09:28:04 PM: steve :?: come to that has anyone trid acmejeeparts
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Post by: Anonymous on November 19, 2004, 09:42:36 PM: Nah he's a good guy
emu mail him on steve@shakie.demon.co.uk and ask for a catalogue
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Post by: Anonymous on November 19, 2004, 10:41:34 PM: I will be visiting 4wd soon to get a 3" body lift for me CJ
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Post by: Woody on November 20, 2004, 07:18:27 PM: If you do import from the states beware of taking what appears to be the cheapest postal option, normally US Mail. When the item gets over here Red Star slap a £12+ customs handling fee on to it plus duty and tax. :( The UPS etc prices may be more expensive but they include the Customs handling fee.

I discovered this the hard way :( :(

Woody
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Post by: Anonymous on November 20, 2004, 09:26:24 PM: :pokinit:
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Post by: Tank on November 20, 2004, 09:35:15 PM: just been on 4wd site and found me a wicked winch bumper and rock sliders :D :D :D
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Post by: Bubba on November 20, 2004, 10:11:02 PM: may not be as bad as you think
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Post by: greggmo on November 20, 2004, 11:03:45 PM: 4wd definatley surprised me when we had our stuff off them.all the way from the states and still way cheaper than the robbers over here.
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Post by: psb on November 21, 2004, 09:29:24 AM: just had a look at this, www.shop (http://www.shop) teamwrangler.co.uk
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Post by: trent on November 21, 2004, 10:02:23 AM: Just took a look at the teamwrangler site that psb left the link for 8)

The only thing is, they invoice shipping costs afterwards, and as it all seems like the parts are from 4wd, do they ship direct from 4wd and charge you shipping from the US!
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Post by: greggmo on November 21, 2004, 06:54:55 PM: yes they do charge shipping but they put it in yer bill to start with, then when it comes to yor door you pay the duty. it will still be cheaper than the stuff you can find over here 9 times out of 10, unles you get a real bargain.
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Post by: trent on November 21, 2004, 08:09:44 PM: I emailed them and they replied saying that parts could be collected, so i'm guessing that if you collect, the price you see is the price you pay!
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Post by: Tank on November 23, 2004, 09:30:53 PM: Can anyone help?I have tried to order some parts from 4WD but i`m having problems actually paying for order etc.I found out cost of shipping for items and tried to checkout but their system wont accept our phone numbers as valid for me to continue,anyone able to shed some light ?I`ve even tried to call using international phonecard but its constantly engaged and in their live chat they told me to keep trying.HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: greggmo on November 23, 2004, 09:45:31 PM: we just phoned them with our order, the call was cheap enough and they were greatly helpfull. dont see why ya cant get through mate. :?
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Post by: Tank on November 23, 2004, 10:03:27 PM: Hi Greggmo,i was trying using one of those phonecards for calling abroad and its always busy,and when i tried to use home phone,as soon as i put 1-330,i get the unobtainable,oops just on phone to telewest and i think ive been forgetting the 00 first-what a plonker i am.Will try again now
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Post by: greggmo on November 23, 2004, 10:07:08 PM: doh.
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Post by: Bubba on November 23, 2004, 10:17:07 PM: what ya buyin
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Post by: greggmo on November 23, 2004, 10:22:15 PM: yeh, anythin excitin? have ya sused it now?
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Post by: Tank on November 23, 2004, 10:23:45 PM: Trying to buy a real steel winch bumper and rock sliders.Managed to get through now no probs,but only tpo get halfway through order to then be told its a truckship item and the girl i spoke to couldnt deal with it .i now have to call the guy that sent me shipping costs tomorrow if i can finish work early enough as hes only there from 8 til 3 our time
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Post by: Bubba on November 23, 2004, 10:23:52 PM: hmm maybe a super charger or 4.7 stroker kit
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Post by: Tank on November 29, 2004, 07:04:12 PM: Well looks my winch bumper will have to be made up.Spoke to Dave Anderson at 4wd last Wednesday and he told me to call Monday as he had to sort out a price for shipping the items i wanted and i nearly fell through the floor.Fender flares and rock sliders $111 postage,bumper sent by Bax global,$567 not including duty etc,and that wasnt including cost of bumper that was shipping alone :cry:
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Post by: trent on November 29, 2004, 07:54:22 PM: WOW
$567 shipping for the bumper alone, what bumper did you want?
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Post by: greggmo on November 29, 2004, 08:55:43 PM: that seems strange my lift kit, which was bloody heavy,was only about $160 and that was ups. something is wrong there mate.
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Post by: Tank on November 29, 2004, 08:58:07 PM: Well Trent for a moment i thought it was made of solid lead but no,its just a normal sort of construction.Its whats called a "Four Real Steel World Challenge Series Front Winch Bumper" and would cost $559.95 for the bumper which is ok but im not paying more for shipping than item itself :headpop:
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Post by: Anonymous on November 29, 2004, 10:38:20 PM: :? Would be cheaper to fly over and collect it your self.
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Post by: Bubba on November 30, 2004, 06:00:15 AM: that is bit od i have had a lift kit a winch plate and loads of other stuff on the same order and it cost 240$
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Post by: Tank on November 30, 2004, 07:13:03 AM: Hi Bubba,yes it does seem very steep and ive no idea why apart from the fact this Dave Anderson said it was a "truckship" item.Originally when i emailed for quote,this guy told me that for bumper and rock sliders the shipping would be $160 which i thought was ok with.Its only when i called to order i was told of possible problem with shipping and to call back :( :( :( :(
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Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2004, 09:13:29 AM: AS I said before try Steve at NSM
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Post by: Tank on November 30, 2004, 05:33:35 PM: Have sent Steve at NSM an email so will see how it goes,thanks Stew
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Post by: Woody on November 30, 2004, 07:04:46 PM: Talking to people that import regularily Steve Middleton, Mark Gasser etc the big problem with items like bumpers is not just the weight (Warn winch bumper for XJ 116 lbs) but also the physical size of the crate it comes in, it can be like a small coffin. If you can find a supplier who surface ships a container load every so often then it might be cheaper, if slower. Try talking to Gwyn Malcolm at www.mountainjacks.co.uk (http://www.mountainjacks.co.uk) he ships from the states a fair bit and if he can get enough to fill a container then can bring in heavy items cheaply - if I remember correctly - don't quote me on this.

Woody
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Post by: Tank on November 30, 2004, 08:18:34 PM: Thanks for that Woody,have contacted Steve Middleton for catalogue.Cant really contact Gwyn as i was going to buy what looked like to be a homemade centre for an xj to which you could fit a winch from him but then decided that i wanted something more substantial and so backed out of the sale,and he may well remember me for that,but thanks anyway :oops:
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Post by: Tank on November 30, 2004, 09:42:40 PM: Have also just had a reply from a place called Savanna Jones-anyone dealt with them?They have quoted me shipping of $463 for a winch bumper,side bars and some cut out fender flares,which is a bit better but they say i will be responsible for Taxes/import duties when they arrive.Does anyone know what sort of figure is likely to be added on,from past dealings? :?: :?:
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Post by: cuffm on December 08, 2004, 12:49:33 AM: If you want to ship heavy stuff from the states look at sea freight companies like American Baggage. 18 months or so ago I bought a cubic metre of ship space (no weight limit) for $260. Look for a supplier thats close to one of thier hubs and who is willing to act as a collection agency, in my case I sent a load of stuff to Tennessee Offroad, they palletted it for me along with the stuff I was buying from them and then they arranged for it to be collected etc. I also regularly use US Postal Service sea service (USPS), cheap and reliable. Shipped back a TJ Tailgate for Angela/Kevin earlier in the year for $70. Most companies will send via USPS if you ask, just have to be prepared to wait upto 6 weeks for goods. Most stuff shipped in from the US wll attract VAT and 6% import duty and possibly a handling fee - or none of the above depending on your postman.... If you go with somebody like American Baggage then arranging a group buys a good idea to maximise space utilisation.... Another route is look for a company who regulary ships stuff into the UK via container.... I paid £100 to ship over an 8274, tube fenders and a bumper last January, from memory well over 300KG.

Mike C
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Post by: Tank on December 08, 2004, 08:25:29 AM: Thanks Mikec,will keep all your info for future reference.Have sent the order to SavannaJones but will have to wait for all 3 items to be in stock and then they will ship,but if there are any probs with that then i will do what you suggested
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Post by: Anonymous on December 14, 2004, 11:50:14 PM: Ordered something from Steve at NSM last Friday

Delivery to sunny Telford Thursday
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Post by: Bubba on December 15, 2004, 07:00:10 AM: who is nsm can he realy be cheaper than buying direct i know you said he is a good guy but just seems hard to imagine using a midle man and it still coming out cheaper
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Post by: Anonymous on December 15, 2004, 02:48:42 PM: Steve's a jeep owner and posts on j33 and jeepclub so he needs parts too!
Imports Quadratec stuff suggest you google Quadratec to see the sort of stuff he gets then bell him on 01245 328118 and ask for a catalogue
Like Gwyn at Mountain Jacks prices are pretty good I've found
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Post by: 46stm on December 15, 2004, 04:29:23 PM: He also posts on here occasionally.

The good thing about you Stew is that you are real and understand that I'm not a charity or a place to just "check out prices"......thats why you, and the majority of my customers get a good deal and good service......unfortunately I also get a load of time wasters who want price and delivery on about 20 items then order nothing.

I don't run NSM full time, its just a sideline business, my main area is a couple of engineering companies, in my opinion the Jeep market is not really big enough to offer good prices all day every day whilst trying to pay your overheads etc.

I always check stock availability and prices before giving people information, I want to sell them something they want not what I have on the shelf. Basically I offer Quadratec over here, even for just one item like a cap, no probs cos I'll just bring it over with other stuff. So far I import parts EVERY week, orders have been constant enough.

So there you go.....website is running but haven't had time to sort it out yet www.nsmspecialproducts.co.uk (http://www.nsmspecialproducts.co.uk) but best to email me direct or call

01245 320919 steve@shakie.demon.co.uk
Steve
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Post by: Anonymous on December 15, 2004, 05:08:21 PM: Well hello Steve Thanks for the com
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Post by: Anonymous on December 15, 2004, 07:14:29 PM: Soz should have put comments
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Post by: Anonymous on December 17, 2004, 03:13:19 PM: Ordered from Steve in Essex last Friday lunch

Shipped from states and in my garage this friday lunch (with a 24 hr delay in my collecting from couriers depot)

Pretty impressive I think!
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Post by: 46stm on December 21, 2004, 11:33:28 PM: Stew, your crisp £45 note awaits in brown paper bag....cheers for plug.
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Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2004, 12:14:37 AM: Great stuff - Thanks Steve
It'll go towards my crimbo beer fund Do you want some scissors to cut off the bit from that £50 note?
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Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2004, 10:58:31 PM: I orderd some stuff from 4wd last wednesday and they came today 8)
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Post by: bluesub on December 22, 2004, 11:45:05 PM: Having had a winch out at the Turkey Hunt now find myself =D>
Always thought could get away without one :yawinkle:
I have seen the light :smt100
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Post by: Woody on December 23, 2004, 12:47:44 AM: Bluesub

have a look at http://www.jeepclub.co.uk/topic.cfm?id=3416 (http://www.jeepclub.co.uk/topic.cfm?id=3416) I think there is a group getting together to try and a good deal from a supplier.

Woody
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Post by: greggmo on December 23, 2004, 10:35:49 PM: i would be interested to know what sort of money we are talking, let us know folks.
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Post by: trent on December 23, 2004, 10:48:28 PM: Me too!!!!!!!
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Post by: Bubba on December 24, 2004, 11:25:25 AM: juust been checking out quadratec on line and must say that apart from one or two thing that 4wd dont sell that they are dearer on like for like parts so i for one will still bring my own parts in from the states steve an nsn may well be a good guy and try his best to provide good service and prices but the poor chap still has to make a living so if his us part suplyer is slightly dearer so must be the end price wich is a shame as we are desperatly short of good parts suplyers in this country evan lighthouse parts seem to be getting dearer
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Post by: Anonymous on December 24, 2004, 09:29:26 PM: I agree about lighthouse,my new hubs cost £138 if i wasn't in a rush i would have had them from 4wd around £100 including shipping.
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Post by: greggmo on December 24, 2004, 11:12:50 PM: its true what you boyz say, the only way that anyone could compare to ordering from the states would be to start manufacturing the stuff or find some way of buying direct from the makers in real large quantaties. 4wd and companies like them are hard to beat for price and service.
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Post by: Anonymous on December 26, 2004, 08:46:25 PM: I have to agree
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Post by: Mick O on December 28, 2004, 10:37:45 AM: Hey Blue

Heres an idea :D
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Post by: bluesub on December 28, 2004, 11:09:13 AM: Thanks go to Woody and Mick O for the links :lol:

I think a front receiver hitch is probably the way I will go. :yawinkle:
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Post by: daggie on December 28, 2004, 03:49:06 PM: bluesub
I have a drawtite on the front of mine, I'll email you a pic. 8)
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Post by: daggie on December 29, 2004, 01:57:52 PM: Bluesub,
you have mail
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Post by: bluesub on December 29, 2004, 09:20:17 PM: Cheers Daggie :wink:

Will get some prices and also look at the possibility of self fabrication :applaudit:
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Post by: daggie on December 30, 2004, 09:38:07 AM: Bluesub

I considered making my own, but the drawtite hitch is rated at 9000lb pull rate, so god forbid, any recovery should go horribly wrong in which somebody gets hurt or worse,:( at least you will be covered by the manufacturers warranty to a certian extent
Mine cost 180 squids all in, not bad IMHO

The locking pin was £22
The 2" shackle & reciever £40 ish
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Post by: 46stm on January 04, 2005, 01:18:12 PM: Ref the Hubs....I have 2 left and selling them for £119 each (plus vat, which everyone puts on, including USA)

I would bulk buy anything and make it worthwhile for everyone (me included) but I've tried it on a couple of things and the response is crap.....plenty of talk but no real commitment so unfortunaely these things do fail.
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Post by: Mike Pavelin on January 04, 2005, 01:56:42 PM: That's the cheapest I've seen hubs for over here, and from stock, too. Worth buying in advance for spares I'd say. At the end of the day it's all very well gettting stuff from the US to save some dosh, but it 'aint no good if you're off the road for a week and you need your ride to get to work or something.
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Post by: Bubba on January 04, 2005, 10:23:30 PM: are we talkin cj hubs or them crudy hubs for tjs they seem to wear out faster than the light on my fridge door [wich dont take long]
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Post by: Anonymous on January 04, 2005, 11:48:37 PM: If Dr Mike and that strange guy from Essex who says nerf bars are easy to fit are on the case bet club/group deals can be sort ted
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Post by: Mike Pavelin on January 05, 2005, 08:53:25 AM: Tj ones, But at least they don't rust as fast as a CJ
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Post by: greggmo on January 05, 2005, 07:12:39 PM: well shep is having to replace his and they arnt very old at all. him not happy. we have an 83 cj and its like new, all it needs is a wheel cylinder. new things are deer and made from crap, its true.
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Post by: Bubba on January 05, 2005, 08:13:19 PM: dont want be nasty but i do have 4 cjs at the mo and no rusty hubs or bearings but i will say the amc twenty under the back is a basterd to work on
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Post by: Tank on January 06, 2005, 04:56:58 PM: YYYEEEEEEEHHHHHHAAAAAAA!!!!!!! My things have finally arrived from the states and i was very suprised as they came to the door with no extra to pay-what a result.Now all i need is one or more very kind and willing Dastards to help me fit everything.Any volunteers out there :?: :?: :D :D
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Post by: Tank on January 06, 2005, 05:00:22 PM: Oh and just to jog the memory,i bought a winch bumper,fender extension flares and some side bars,and i also have a winch to go onto the bumper,so i reckon at least a days work if i did it on my own but as they say,many hands make light work(no comments about too many cooks please :lol: ).
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Post by: greggmo on January 06, 2005, 08:19:41 PM: count me in mate, always willing to help if i can.
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Post by: Bubba on January 06, 2005, 08:52:00 PM: me three
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Post by: Tank on January 06, 2005, 10:39:46 PM: Thanks very much Bubba and Greggmo for the kind offers.When would be the best times to do it and wheres the best place to do it?Maybe at yours Bubba if thats ok with you,depending upon whats in your garage at the moment ,of course, as you have cover,whereas i dont as my garage is rather full at the moment with a half stripped cherry as you probably know.As far as im concerned,the sooner the better,but it all depends upon your availability my fellow Dastards(the missus is moaning about all these big cardboard boxes cluttering the place up :? :? :? )
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Post by: greggmo on January 06, 2005, 11:29:11 PM: bit busy this weekend but next weekend is fairly free i think, anyway its up to you guyz. keep us posted.
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Post by: Anonymous on January 08, 2005, 01:58:39 PM: I will come over if i am free. Dont know if i will be much help though
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Post by: Tank on January 08, 2005, 03:15:26 PM: Thanks very much for all the kind offers of help,and i think its definately the more the merrier.I had a quick look at the flares and side bars this morning and they arent as straight forward as i thought but with several of us it should be ok.I dont think i would like to do it alone in case i messed it up.THANKS ALL (
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Post by: Manda on January 14, 2005, 10:45:43 PM: Greggmo has had some practice tonight at fitting bumpers as our 4WD order has arrived!! I am chuffed to bits. Lots of new parts. :D
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Post by: Tank on January 14, 2005, 10:56:13 PM: Cant wait to see the new bits,Greggmo told me all about them-bet they look cool 8)
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Post by: Manda on January 14, 2005, 11:09:39 PM: I think they are cool.
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Post by: Bubba on January 15, 2005, 06:25:47 AM: fitting new bits is great
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Post by: Tank on January 15, 2005, 08:21:32 AM: Like having Christmas all over again !!!!!!! :o :o
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Post by: Anonymous on January 15, 2005, 06:21:13 PM: What new bits have you had then Manda
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Post by: Mick O on January 15, 2005, 08:39:31 PM: I aint got no new bits :weep: :smt089 :smt066 :supz:
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Post by: trent on January 15, 2005, 09:00:08 PM: Mick 0, what you getting?

Manda, what bumpers did you get?
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Post by: Bubba on January 16, 2005, 10:39:54 AM: its just not fair everybody has had jeep toys sept me
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Post by: Mick O on January 16, 2005, 11:36:24 AM: I want a 3 inch lift, discos, 31 inch muds for starters :smt089

:) 8)
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Post by: Manda on January 16, 2005, 04:10:50 PM: Mickharv's Jeep looks sooooooooo cool

I have had a Protech/Tomken rear bumper with receiver hitch, skyjacker hydro shocks, JKS Quicker disconnects and a K&N air filter.
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Post by: Anonymous on January 16, 2005, 06:23:11 PM: 8)
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Post by: Anonymous on January 16, 2005, 08:41:33 PM: Very good

Don't forget the K&N cleaning kit - believe it or not available from Halfords!t
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Post by: Tank on January 16, 2005, 09:23:26 PM: Pics of the newly fitted mods have now been posted in Birtys album. 8) 8) 8)
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Post by: craig on January 16, 2005, 09:55:08 PM: Just seen pics, it looks well smart mate :) :) you ave all done a good job!!! =D>

Nice to see you ave washed him aswell :shock:
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Post by: Woody on January 16, 2005, 10:02:16 PM: Mick

looks well sorted The spare tyre carrier looks a "Brunelian" piece of engineering, bit of an odd place for the No Plate though. Could you mount a square plate inside the spare wheel with a light? Front bumber, flares and snorkel look good are they all new? Can't wait to get to a Dastards meet and see all your Jeeps up close, it is nearly as much fun crawling around them as driving them.

Woody
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Post by: Anonymous on January 16, 2005, 10:10:48 PM: Mick

It looks awesome!! totally impressed

Nice one

Stew
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Post by: greggmo on January 16, 2005, 10:13:28 PM: yes you all know if yer jeep has a couple of hours with the birtys mechanics in bubbas yard, its never gona be the same again, recon it looks bad ass, i would want the same if i had a cherokee. theres nothin like a bit of hammering, grinding, beating, fighting, and general sillyness that goes on during a birtys make over. nice one boyz.
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Post by: Anonymous on January 16, 2005, 10:23:45 PM: now i am going to have to try and get Carmel to do the same with hers
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Post by: Tank on January 16, 2005, 10:35:30 PM: Thanks for all your kind comments,fellow Birty`s.Im well pleased with it.I guess it is an unusual place for the number plate but i cant mount a plate on the spare wheel as i carry the wheel inside to stop some thievin little towrag from nickin it,and it seemed the best place so its well out of the way.Now thinking about a new bumper for the rear,to match the front so may rearrange things eventually,but thats for another day at the "bubb`s workshop)
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Post by: Tank on January 16, 2005, 10:39:01 PM: Sorry forgot to mention,for Woody`s benefit,snorkel isnt new,but it did have to be moved a little higher so it sat above the flare rather than try to shape flare around it-we thought that might spoil its appearance
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Post by: trent on January 16, 2005, 10:54:32 PM: Quote from: "Mick O"

You got your bits from the states yet Trent :D :roll:

MickH, that one tough looking cherry
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Post by: bluesub on January 17, 2005, 11:05:03 AM: Hey Mick that looks well sorted :?:

That front bumper sure is the buisiness

The Dastards sure did a great job.
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Post by: Mick O on January 17, 2005, 01:11:39 PM: Wow Tank :smt023

:) 8)
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Post by: Tank on January 17, 2005, 01:44:33 PM: In answer to Bluesubs question about arches,they did have to be cut by about 2" on sides and 3/8"along tops.It was quite funny as the front 2 were cut brilliantly and delicately, mainly by Shep with a little airsaw but by the time we got to turn vehicle around to do rear ones it was getting late so to save time i decided to mutilate them with an angle grinder.I did think about getting out the Stihl saw but then thought better :lol: .It was certainly quicker but not quite so neat but you cant see unless you look under the flares,really.
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Post by: Mike Pavelin on January 17, 2005, 05:07:01 PM: If you look on my gallery you'll see a pic of Cheapo Cherokee fitted with the same Mopar wheel carrier and the rear plate fitted where it should be.
What size tyres are you running mike? Love the flares!
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Post by: Tank on January 17, 2005, 05:11:19 PM: At the moment im running 32/11.5/15`s but now i may go to 33/12.5/15`s but not sure yet.I`ve got to fit an adjustable front sway bay before i do anything else.As for the number plate well im not sure of the legality of my plate but its got an illumination light above it and i prefer it there to down on the bottom of the door as yours is-no offence,Mike 8)