Topic: best gearing options for a tj auto (Read 11387 times)

Bubba · « **Reply #50 on:** January 20, 2010, 08:30:03 PM »

hey steve do you have clamshell bearing tool and set up bearings

gazjeep · « **Reply #51 on:** January 20, 2010, 11:31:13 PM »

Well work was/is mad at the mo & went straight to the football tonight so only got to ring Frogsisland at what passed for a lunch hour.

They put me on to a local guy (to them) they use who has been into Jeeps for a long time. Spoke to him, he has done this & other drive line mods to customers & his own vehicles, he is gonna price the job up & get back to me. You never know

Will try & ring Shelley tomorrow.

Seems there's a country wide shortage of Kuhmo 31" muds too at the mo, might get it sorted in time for the turkey hunt at this rate gggrrrrr.

Thanks for everyone's continuing input & suggestions, all appreciated

greggmo · « **Reply #52 on:** January 20, 2010, 11:47:08 PM »

mik at rednexx is yer man. i will get hold of him for ya gaz dood. will take a bit of time as he is out of the uk at the moment. he has a guy who has taken his place here but i cant get his number. i will ring miks home again tomorrow and get a contact number for ya. mik is a top axle builder so i am sure his stand in will be as good. £2k +.

they must think all jeep owners are soft in the head rather than just 50% of em.

gazjeep · « **Reply #53 on:** January 20, 2010, 11:53:18 PM »

Cheers Greg, thought that avenue was completely closed

BTW, dont tell him I told you but Mr Mo siad he was very impressed with the sliders

You know he will never admit it to you directly

scrw · « **Reply #54 on:** January 21, 2010, 04:24:10 PM »

Quote from: V8 Bubba on January 20, 2010, 08:30:03 PM

hey steve do you have clamshell bearing tool and set up bearings

Not of my own, blagged a diff setup kit from my uncle (HGV mech) the pumkin spreader is bloody huge, have the other tools required in the shed tho

Bubba · « **Reply #55 on:** January 21, 2010, 06:03:55 PM »

you can get away without the spreader on jeeps unless the newer ones need them you do if you are doing landy salisburys
i have most of whats needed bur the clamshell tool is 100% damage free way off removing the bearings for shim ajustment and set up bearing are just sweet and not very dear i aim to get amc 20 d 44 and 30 ones

Bishops Finger · « **Reply #56 on:** January 21, 2010, 09:06:59 PM »

Are you working on a plan Bubba?

Bubba · « **Reply #57 on:** January 21, 2010, 09:09:32 PM »

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Bishops Finger · « **Reply #58 on:** January 21, 2010, 09:45:39 PM »

Thats possibly a yes then..

gazjeep · « **Reply #59 on:** January 21, 2010, 09:59:36 PM »

Well its all clingon to me, but then again most of this thread has been

JamesH · « **Reply #60 on:** January 22, 2010, 10:10:16 AM »

I have D30 setup bearings - just my old ones with the centre enlarged, nothing fancy but works well. I think I only used the carrier ones when setting backlash, none when doing the pinion cos I don't think the bearings have to come off to add/remove shims - does this sound correct?? You can borrow mine if you need them to do a first diff before creating your own from the old bearings.

gazjeep · « **Reply #61 on:** January 27, 2010, 01:55:04 PM »

Latest update.

Due to the expense that keeps being quoted at me to do the re-gear & the true tracs a compromise has had to be made

Still going for the 4.11 re-gear, just waiting for the quote from Randy's (cheers Dodster) for the ring & pinion & install sets & shipping etc.

The true tracs are gonna have to wait until another time, but should just be a straight swap fingers crossed.

Good news is though that we DO have a LSD in the back as was 1st thought, the true trac set up is not blindingly obvious at 1st look though

wildwood · « **Reply #62 on:** January 27, 2010, 02:07:10 PM »

Mate of mine phoned up on Sunday as he had rogered his TJ diff and was looking to replace his LSD in the rear at the same time...

Now bear with me on this .... I said a Spool at the rear will be cheap..... it is... and is strong cos it replaces everything..... but for the UK mud and 33s I came across this which I did know about it but not in detail.... Its called a mini-spool and replaces the spider gears side washers and thrust washers which are then replaced by the mini-spool blocks...
now your fully locked up....
Yukon Gear and Axle... Mini-Spool...... www.yukongear.com
Part no YP MINSD44-30
And you'll love this bit?

? $79 Yes that's not a typo $79 and nothing to ever go wrong....

gazjeep · « **Reply #63 on:** January 27, 2010, 02:25:54 PM »

Cheers Wildy

Bubba !!!!

Is this a full locker or a LSD ?

Is this an option given you know whats planned etc ?

You have a few hours to advise as I'm off to the football straight from work

Mick O · « **Reply #64 on:** January 27, 2010, 05:06:15 PM »

Not wanting to pee on anyones fire here, but, Yukon dont recommend the mini spool for street driven trucks.

http://www.yukongear.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProdID=3276

JamesH · « **Reply #65 on:** January 27, 2010, 05:10:12 PM »

A spool is like a full locker that never unlocks. Where a full locker like my Detroit unlocks when coasting so that I can go around corners, a spool doesn't - at least that's how I understand them.

Bubba · « **Reply #66 on:** January 27, 2010, 05:23:49 PM »

all true but the cherp at each junction is kinda sexy

isle of man · « **Reply #67 on:** January 27, 2010, 06:02:42 PM »

Spool off road is OK.
Spool on road needs to be respected it can bite like a PITBULL - your nads are in it's jaws.

Bubba · « **Reply #68 on:** January 27, 2010, 06:48:59 PM »

it lacks the refinement that his lordship is used to

Bishops Finger · « **Reply #69 on:** January 27, 2010, 09:18:17 PM »

They are very sophisticated for sure...

gazjeep · « **Reply #70 on:** January 29, 2010, 06:53:35 PM »

The plot thickens. For the re-gear only.

Tried Lighthouse today, they can supply the ring & pinion set & install kits front & rear. The rear crown wheel is a thicker design to use the existing carrier, the front would need a new carrier.
£1333 all in including VAT & carriage.

Randy's are quoting the following

Qty Part # Description Price Ext
------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 YG D30S-411TJ D30 SHORT 4.10 R&P S $183.92 $183.92
1 YK D30-TJ D30 SHORT in TJ, '98 $132.33 $132.33
1 YG D44-411 D44 4.09 R&P $195.91 $195.91
1 YK D44 D44 MASTER OVERHAUL $164.76 $164.76
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Subtotal: $676.92

With shipping on top of $300 & adding 25% for duty & VAT we are looking at approx $1250.

Using $1.50 to the £1 this comes out at £833.

£500 notes cheaper than Lighthouse.

The quandary is that after checking with Dodster (cheers Phil) he thinks that all the stuff fitted by Mike at Rednexx was Randy's stuff but he may also have had to have a new carrier front & rear.

Got to check with Randy's, to see if I need a new carrier for the front & or rear (tech guy on voicemail at the mo) so am in limbo.

Any thoughts ?

gazjeep · « **Reply #71 on:** January 29, 2010, 09:10:38 PM »

Me again, I have contacted an eBay seller in the US about true tracs (I can dream cant I).

Hi Gary, this unit will work in the front of your TJ, but is not recommended because your TJ will have a vacuum disconnect front end. If you get the Jeep articulated, the axle shaft could pull out.

This true ?

Do I have a vacuum disconnect on the front diff ?

Anyone ever heard of this problem before ?

Cheers

Gaz

Just had this follow up as to why its not suitable

Hi Gary, the issue is the vacuum disconnect. When you use the Truetrac differential, there is no way to get the c-clip on. It works, but if the Jeeps get out of shape and in a bind the axle could pull out.

So there you go

Bubba · « **Reply #72 on:** January 29, 2010, 09:47:51 PM »

he is talking about yj front axle

isle of man · « **Reply #73 on:** January 30, 2010, 03:58:13 AM »

Truetrac are a great compromise to a locker I run a set on the green Wrangler - I would recommend these!!

http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/ProductsServices/PerformanceProducts/Products/Differentials/DetroitTruetrac/index.htm

Bubba · « **Reply #74 on:** January 30, 2010, 09:27:59 AM »

for cost cussedness an relative refinement i like these but not in the front only the rear
http://www.richmondgear.com/powertrax/noslip.html

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