Birty Dastards Jeep Club

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  
Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: Lifting a TJ  (Read 3948 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Yakko

  • Guest
Lifting a TJ
« on: March 02, 2015, 06:14:07 PM »

Hi,

I'm putting together the bits needed to lift my TJ about 4 inches. I've got a Quadratec lift kit coming from the US. As well as coils and shocks it comes with new front and read lower control arms - it just hit me, assume these will fit even though they were intended for a left hand drive car?

It also comes with a transfer case lowering kit.

So, other than transfer case, lower control arms and track bars is there anything else I need to think of for a 4 inch lift. Brake lines?

Thanks.

(Feel like I've asked a lot of questions recently - apologies!)
Logged

Dave69

  • Club Member
  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 15
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 9457
  • Vehicle: CJ-7 4.2 auto
  • Year: 1979
Re: Lifting a TJ
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2015, 08:18:24 PM »

springs, control arms, transfer kit shouldn't be an issue

track bar may be bent the wrong direction (adjustable)

prop shaft length?

SYE if one not fitted

just for starters, give Wildwood a pm for more extreme items to consider

Logged
XJ 2.5 diesel - dead. XJ 4.0 6" lift - sold to some lucky person
CJ7 4.2 auto standard(ish)
Alfa 147 jtdm

DarrenR

  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 0
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 303
  • Vehicle: 2.7 grand Cherokee overland
  • Year: 2003
Re: Lifting a TJ
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2015, 08:21:02 PM »

1" body lift
Logged
Can't keep away from the bloody things

wildwood

  • The 1 Tonne Kid
  • Marshal
  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 14
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5921
Re: Lifting a TJ
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2015, 08:35:43 PM »



just for starters, give Wildwood a pm for more extreme items to consider

 :hysterical:

Time lock on the old wallet.......
A light right foot :icon_twisted:
Logged

Yakko

  • Guest
Lifting a TJ
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2015, 08:52:09 PM »

Deciding I wanted 33s instead of 31s was an expensive idea. In the last week I've ordered 4.10 axles, lockers, 4 inch lift, front track bar bracket from the US...

... but haven't actually ordered any 33s!

Thought prop would be ok with 4 inch and the transfer box lowered?

The lockers are to help me keep my right foot light! Delicacy over loud pedal!
Logged

Yakko

  • Guest
Re: Lifting a TJ
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2015, 09:00:43 PM »

Oh, and if my Mrs asks, I won it all in a raffle, right?
Logged

bisleywrangler

  • Admin
  • Forum Member
  • **
  • Guru: 1
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 444
  • Vehicle: Wrangler
  • Year: 1997
Re: Lifting a TJ
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2015, 09:55:37 PM »

Extended antiroll bar links, bump stops to limit up travel, guess these might be included in the kit? Also adjustable top rear arms for pinion angle maybe?
Logged

gazjeep

  • Marshal
  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 9
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7280
  • Vehicle: TJ - Der Panzer - CBR
Re: Lifting a TJ
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2015, 09:59:24 PM »

Think you going to have prop issues over 3 inches in a TJ, angles will be wrong hence the need for SYE, more errrr raffle prizes  :icon_winkle:

And importantly, the higher you go, the wider you will need to go or stability will be fooked eerrr more prizes needed  :icon_winkle:
Logged
Taking ya girl to heaven & back

wildwood

  • The 1 Tonne Kid
  • Marshal
  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 14
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5921
Re: Lifting a TJ
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2015, 10:10:12 PM »

One tonne axles next....... Oooh yes nice and wide......that'll stop you falling over.....



Well sometimes :icon_twisted:
Logged

Yakko

  • Guest
Re: Lifting a TJ
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2015, 10:12:44 PM »

Extended antiroll bar links, bump stops to limit up travel, guess these might be included in the kit? Also adjustable top rear arms for pinion angle maybe?

Yes, ARB links and bump stops are in kit. Haven't heard top arms before. Will research.

Think you going to have prop issues over 3 inches in a TJ, angles will be wrong hence the need for SYE, more errrr raffle prizes  :icon_winkle:

And importantly, the higher you go, the wider you will need to go or stability will be fooked eerrr more prizes needed  :icon_winkle:

Hmmm. Need to find out definitively, thought the included transfer box lowering bits were to sort the prop out. Not sure I can swing much more out of the raffle prizes!

Going to get 2 inch wider tyres to give me a 2 inch wider footprint.
Logged

bisleywrangler

  • Admin
  • Forum Member
  • **
  • Guru: 1
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 444
  • Vehicle: Wrangler
  • Year: 1997
Re: Lifting a TJ
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2015, 10:18:00 PM »

I went with a 3" lift and a 1.25" body lift this gave me the clearance for 33's. I had a transfer case drop fitted but the rear shaft angle was causing me vibration problems so I had to fit an SYE kit I went with the extreme short one from treaflex to give me the longest rear drive shaft possible. Wish I hadn't as the speed sensor is fixed so I can't change the speedo reading without getting an electronic box to do so. The standard SYE takes the standard speedo gears which you can change to correct your speedo.
Logged

Jonny Jeep

  • Regular Member
  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 11
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1371
  • Vehicle: TJ 4.0 Sport
  • Year: 1997
Re: Lifting a TJ
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2015, 10:43:53 PM »

Rear brake flex line will be fine. For front get hoses for a 95 YJ they are long enough, I run them with my 4" lift.
Logged

georgen

  • Guest
Re: Lifting a TJ
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2015, 05:04:03 AM »

Mine was on 3.5" lift + bodylift+ transfer drop and the vibrations were horrid, since I fitted the SYE kit which sorted the Vibes out, I have also changed my Lower control arms and my upper control arms along with axles etc, I try to forget what I spent and replaced to be fair LOL.
Logged

wildwood

  • The 1 Tonne Kid
  • Marshal
  • Forum Member
  • *
  • Guru: 14
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5921
Re: Lifting a TJ
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2015, 08:35:30 AM »

You will also notice that the higher you lift it the more angle is dialled into the Lower and Upper Control arms this has the effect of shortening the wheelbase which when you are trying to improve off road ability works against you.
Anything over 3" of lift is really gagging for adjustable lower control arms to sort out the caster angle of the front axle at the very least. In the rear it will help to sort out pinion angle but you still need a SYE but will also get you some more wheelbase.

Rubicon Express as well as many others do a long arm kit that they reccommend for lifts over 3.5"
And in addition one of their kits extends the rear to give you 98/99" of wheelbase. Gives the vehicle back its proportions and helps with hill climbs.
There  are now kits to extend the front by 3" so the magic 100+" wheelbase is more easily achievable.

And all it takes is £££ and $$$$$  :icon_super:
Logged

Ezz

  • Club Member
  • Guru
  • *
  • Guru: 2
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1076
  • Vehicle: TJ
  • Year: 1997
Re: Lifting a TJ
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2015, 09:22:17 AM »

My TJ was on a 4" lift with stock length arms, it rode like a dog.. Wheelbase gets shortened on an already short jeep..

2.5 or 3" lift is more than enough for 33s

Or 4" with long arms..
Logged
2009 JK Rubicon now sold
1997 TJ wrangler 4.0, jk rubicon 5.38 geared  axles, 38.5 mud treps,  101" wheelbase

Yakko

  • Guest
Re: Lifting a TJ
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2015, 09:41:51 AM »

Kit comes with new lower control arms. Assume that means wheelbase stays the same?
Logged

Ezz

  • Club Member
  • Guru
  • *
  • Guru: 2
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1076
  • Vehicle: TJ
  • Year: 1997
Re: Lifting a TJ
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2015, 12:21:54 PM »

I'm sure you'll love it..
Logged
2009 JK Rubicon now sold
1997 TJ wrangler 4.0, jk rubicon 5.38 geared  axles, 38.5 mud treps,  101" wheelbase

neilh

  • Guest
Re: Lifting a TJ
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2015, 01:32:51 PM »

Ours is running 33" but not sure how high it's been lifted. No body lift as far as I can see. It does rub on full lock quite badly so I've got some spacers to fit to try to address that.
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
 

Powered by EzPortal