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Re: Right, this is serious!!
« Reply #150 on: September 05, 2014, 08:33:29 AM »

Can anyone pop to yours and fit the trans cooler, it could go somewhere as a temporary measure held in place with cable ties and jubilee clips. In fact I'm sure you could do that. I think it is likely to help a lot.
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Re: Right, this is serious!!
« Reply #151 on: September 05, 2014, 08:35:48 AM »

Also another maybe for the future.

Fender well headers ......exit at the back of the inner fender and over the chassis rail, taking all that heat away from the engine bay. Will mean running zorsts down the side and redoing what ya got.
In addition exhaust wrap the headers to keep heat in until they are over the chassis rail.

I am sure a concerted Birtys council of minds can get it sorted for Turkey Hunt at least :icon_super:
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Re: Right, this is serious!!
« Reply #152 on: September 05, 2014, 09:02:25 AM »

I used to have that on my MX5 (ok very different vehicle) but it was running 240bhp and a turbo.

Produced a lot of heat. Standard radiator did cope once I had covered the headers and top of down pipe with  http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorsport/heat-shielding-protection/pitking-products-volcano-exhaust-wrap or similar.

I did change the radiator for a 3 core alloy once when funds allowed.

Got to be worth a try as a help.

Can you not do the above, make an under tray and card to channel to air inside the engine bay. Take it for a test drive, windows and heaters on if needed?

You got to be at CF with an off roader.
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« Reply #153 on: September 05, 2014, 10:04:50 AM »

Yup, what Jay said. You could get the exhaust wrap and fit it in a couple of days, it can only help and isn't big moolar.

I have no idea what the transmission lines look like on the Chief but am sure you can find one, cut a short section out and jubilee clip the trans cooler it. It has to be mounted and not flapping around but could be a case of a couple of self cutting screws into inner body panel or chassis. Saturday morning job even with a few tea breaks.

I know I'm happy to bring tools and fixings and parts to maybe make it more permanent if you can get it to Cheapfest and I'm sure others feel the same.
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Re: Right, this is serious!!
« Reply #154 on: September 05, 2014, 10:25:47 AM »

Cheers James :greggmo:

Exhaust wrap on order

Winch off 2mrw

Hardboard or perspex tray 2mrw

Change clocks as well 2mrw just in case (dear gawd it better not be that  :003: )

Mechanic booked (hopefully) for trans cooler but gotta find pipes

And best of all offer from DJRR6 to use his custom 3 core steel rad off his 360 - top birty karma :icon_super:

If that doesn't work I'm fooked :die:

Or I have to take a 12 hr trip via b - roads :die: :die:
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Re: Right, this is serious!!
« Reply #155 on: September 05, 2014, 10:49:59 AM »

Normally I am wrong but I think you are looking at the rad. The same rig runs in a lot higher temps then the UK without undertrays, hood vents or exhaust wraps. They may all help the issue but not fix it.

I had an old FJ40 with a chevy 283 in it that ran great. After awhile I swapped in a chevy 350 and the thing would get quite hot after being on the road for awhile. Off road and around town she was fine but moving at speed it would overheat. The radiator for the old engine just wasnt up to the task of getting rid of all the heat over extended periods of time from the new engine.
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Re: Right, this is serious!!
« Reply #156 on: September 05, 2014, 11:05:23 AM »

Yet the rad on my j20 with a 401 is a 2 core... And it has the heavy 8000lb package too.  Looks original as rest of truck was
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Re: Right, this is serious!!
« Reply #157 on: September 05, 2014, 11:16:36 AM »

Yet the rad on my j20 with a 401 is a 2 core... And it has the heavy 8000lb package too.  Looks original as rest of truck was

Same autobox?
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« Reply #158 on: September 05, 2014, 11:36:35 AM »


Personally I think airflow becomes a non-issue when driving a brick, but what do I know,

your confusing air flow with aerodynamics.

a rad can only be efficient if air is channeled through it, air will take the route of least resistance so if it can go around the rad easier than go through it the rad won't have the air to work
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« Reply #159 on: September 05, 2014, 12:06:27 PM »

Yet the rad on my j20 with a 401 is a 2 core... And it has the heavy 8000lb package too.  Looks original as rest of truck was

Same autobox?

Same set up
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Re: Right, this is serious!!
« Reply #160 on: September 05, 2014, 03:50:52 PM »

you have replaced /checked that bottom hose
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Re: Right, this is serious!!
« Reply #161 on: September 05, 2014, 05:46:35 PM »

Bollocking - no - forgot bout that :banghead:

Any Motorspares shop or lightys?
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Re: Right, this is serious!!
« Reply #162 on: September 05, 2014, 05:52:39 PM »

Bollocking - no - forgot bout that :banghead:

Any Motorspares shop or lightys?

Lightys
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Re: Right, this is serious!!
« Reply #163 on: September 05, 2014, 06:03:26 PM »

better get up early then :icon_eek:
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Re: Right, this is serious!!
« Reply #164 on: September 05, 2014, 06:37:19 PM »

2nd result of the day (1st is the rad loan) is I had a brainwave about the board for the tray - I have a sheet of this left over from a job:

http://www.cabp.co.uk/Roofing-Materials/Corrugated-Sheets/Onduline-Bitumen-Corrugated/2M-x-950mm-Ondalux-Corrugated-Roofing-Sheet-BLACK_ROLB2BK.htm
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Re: Right, this is serious!!
« Reply #165 on: September 05, 2014, 06:38:25 PM »

Don't get it too close to anything hot cos it will melt / burn
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Re: Right, this is serious!!
« Reply #166 on: September 05, 2014, 06:45:24 PM »

may give corrupted results, depending on which way round you have the corrugation, in line won't seal and transverse will give turbulent airflow.

for the initial test I would go with hardboard, and if you get the results you need I have enough 3mm ally diamond plate here you can have to make the permanent piece
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Re: Right, this is serious!!
« Reply #167 on: September 05, 2014, 06:50:00 PM »

damn :banghead:

trip to wickes and hardboard then, but gonna have to get a big sheet and get it cut

cheers Bruce  :greggmo:
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Re: Right, this is serious!!
« Reply #168 on: September 05, 2014, 08:25:30 PM »

I'm going to bring a digital temperature infra red laser pointy thingy with me and measure where the heats coming from on the way up to Cheapfest, before I spank any more cash on my money pit....

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Re: Right, this is serious!!
« Reply #169 on: September 05, 2014, 08:29:16 PM »

They are useful, I have a cheapo one that works great.
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« Reply #170 on: September 05, 2014, 08:31:41 PM »

And are great fun taped to the top of a toy gun and pointed at people.....
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Re: Right, this is serious!!
« Reply #171 on: September 06, 2014, 12:27:58 PM »

New bottom hose only £9 from lightys :icon_eek:

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Re: Right, this is serious!!
« Reply #172 on: September 06, 2014, 03:53:37 PM »

Delivered in line with the replacement radiator?


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Re: Right, this is serious!!
« Reply #173 on: September 06, 2014, 05:19:59 PM »

Yup, both Tues AM :greggmo:

Sheet of hardboard in back of car as well
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« Reply #174 on: September 07, 2014, 07:05:53 AM »

Hope it sorts it,been a bit of a mission so far.
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