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PhatDave

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Disabling Alarm when locking grand
« on: July 04, 2016, 10:26:14 PM »

Don't know why but over the last couple of days my Jeep (2004 Grand Overland) alarm has gone off a few times - mostly during the night which is especially fun when I go out to deactivate it and see all my neighbours awake and watching...

No evidence of tampering, its parked in a carport and blocked in by wifes car anyway so I don't suspect foul play?

Aside from why is it going off, for a short term fix is there any way to lock it without activating the alarm? Initially I went round and locked it manually, until I got to the boot... There is no apparent keyhole or lock switch for the boot??

Pressing the central locking button on the door inexplicably arms the alarm.

A bit of googling and I found that on later jeeps pressing the remote lock button three times is meant to disable the alarm and doing so makes a single tone emit from the car but the alarm light is still merrily flashing away? Anyone know if that means the alarm is now deactivated or if the tone sounded on pressing the button three times is more of a 'stop sitting on me fatass' sort of warning?

If I was to park it with the dog in it and want to lock it (with the windows opened too of course) how would I stop the alarm going off or a particularly unpleasant person from making of with the retardedly friendly dog?

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Re: Disabling Alarm when locking grand
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2016, 10:44:46 PM »

If the intrusion alarm is ultrasonic then wind blowing through the vents could be enough to set it off. I've had that happen in the car I had before the Jeep. Closing the vents off or disabling the ultrasonics with the alarm remote worked on that vehicle.

Cut and pasted from the 04 FSM...

OPERATION - VEHICLE THEFT SECURITY
SYSTEM

The Vehicle Theft Security System (VTSS) is
divided into two basic subsystems: Vehicle Theft
Alarm (VTA) and Sentry Key Immobilizer System
(SKIS). The following are paragraphs that briefly
describe the operation of each of those two subsystems.
A Body Control Module (BCM) is used to control
and integrate many of the functions and features
included in the Vehicle Theft Security System
(VTSS). In the VTSS, the BCM receives inputs indicating
the status of the door ajar switches, the driver
cylinder lock switch, the ignition switch, the liftgate
ajar switches, the liftgate flip-up glass ajar switch,
the power lock switches and, in vehicles so equipped,
the hood ajar switch. The programming in the BCM
allows it to process the information from all of these
inputs and send control outputs to energize or de-energize
the combination flasher, the horn relay (except
vehicles with the premium version of the VTA), and
the VTSS indicator. In addition, in vehicles built for
certain markets where premium versions of the VTA
is required, the BCM also exchanges messages with
the Intrusion Transceiver Module (ITM) over the Programmable
Communications Interface (PCI) data
buss network to provide the features found in this
version of the VTA. The control of these inputs and
outputs are what constitute all of the features of the
VTSS. Following is information on the operation of
each of the VTSS features.

ENABLING

The BCM must have the VTSS function enabled in
order for the VTSS to perform as designed. The logic
in the BCM keeps its VTSS function dormant until it
is enabled using a DRBIIIt scan tool. Refer to the
appropriate diagnostic information.

PRE-ARMING

The VTA has a pre-arming sequence. Pre-arming
occurs when a door, the tailgate, or the flip-up glass
is open when the vehicle is locked using a power lock
switch, or when the “Lock” button on the Remote
Keyless Entry (RKE) transmitter is depressed. The
powerlock switch will not initiate the pre-arming
sequence if the key is in the ignition switch. When
the VTA is pre-armed, the arming sequence is
delayed until all of the doors, the tailgate and the
flip-up glass are closed.

ARMING

Passive arming of the VTSS occurs when the vehicle
is exited with the key removed from the ignition
switch, the headlamps are turned off, and the doors
are locked while they are open using the power lock
switch. The power lock switch will not function if the
key is in the ignition switch or the headlamps are
turned on with the driver side front door open. The
VTSS will not arm if the driver side front door is
locked using the key in the lock cylinder or using the
mechanical lock button. Active arming of the VTSS
occurs when the “Lock” button on the Remote Keyless
Entry (RKE) transmitter is depressed to lock the
vehicle, even if the doors and/or the liftgate are open
when the RKE transmitter Lock button is depressed.
However, the VTSS arming will not be complete until
all of the doors, the liftgate and the liftgate flip-up
glass are closed. On vehicles equipped with the hood
ajar switch, VTSS arming will complete if the hood is
open, but the underhood area will not be protected
unless the hood is closed when the VTSS is armed.
Following successful passive or active VTSS arming,
the VTSS indicator on the top of the instrument
panel will flash rapidly for about sixteen seconds
after the illuminated entry system times out. This
indicates that VTSS arming is in progress. Once the
sixteen second arming function is successfully completed,
the indicator will flash at a slower rate, indicating
that the VTSS is armed.

DISARMING

Passive disarming of the VTSS occurs when the
vehicle is unlocked using the key to unlock the driver
side front door. Active disarming of the VTSS occurs
when the vehicle is unlocked by depressing the
“Unlock” button of the Remote Keyless Entry (RKE)
transmitter. Once the alarm has been activated,
either disarming method will also deactivate the
alarm. Depressing the “Panic” button on the RKE
transmitter will also disarm the VTSS, but the horn
will continue to pulse and the exterior lamps will
continue to flash for about three minutes as part of
the Panic feature function. The Panic feature is overridden
if the “Panic” button is depressed a second
time, or if a vehicle speed of about 24 kilometers-perhour
(15 miles-per-hour) is attained.

POWER-UP MODE

When the armed VTSS senses that the battery has
been disconnected and reconnected, it enters its power-
up mode. In the power-up mode the alarm system
remains armed following a battery failure or disconnect.
If the VTSS was armed prior to a battery disconnect
or failure, the technician or vehicle operator
will have to actively or passively disarm the alarm
system after the battery is reconnected. The power-
up mode will also apply if the battery goes dead
while the system is armed, and battery jump-starting
is then attempted. The VTSS will be armed until it is
actively or passively disarmed. If the VTSS is in the
disarmed mode prior to a battery disconnect or failure,
it will remain disarmed after the battery is
reconnected or replaced, or if jump-starting is
attempted.

ALARM

The VTA alarm output varies by the version of the
VTA with which the vehicle is equipped. In all cases,
the alarm provides both visual and audible outputs;
however, the time intervals of these outputs vary by
the requirements of the market for which the vehicle
is manufactured. In all cases, the visual output will
be a flashing of the exterior lamps. For vehicles
equipped with North American or the base version of
the VTA, the audible output will be the pulsing of the
horn. For vehicles with the premium version of the
VTA, the audible output will be the cycling of the
siren. The inputs that will trigger the alarm include
the door ajar switch, the flip-up glass ajar switch,
and in vehicles built for certain markets where they
are required, the hood ajar switch and the Intrusion
Transceiver Module (ITM).

TAMPER ALERT

The VTSS tamper alert feature will sound the horn
(or the alarm siren for the premium version) three
times upon VTA disarming, if the alarm was triggered
and has since timed-out (about eighteen minutes).
This feature alerts the vehicle operator that
the VTA alarm was activated while the vehicle was
unattended.

INTRUSION ALARM

The Intrusion Alarm is an exclusive feature of the
premium version of the VTA, which is only available
in certain markets, where it is required. When the
VTA is armed, a motion sensor in the Intrusion
Transceiver Module (ITM) monitors the interior of
the vehicle for movement. If motion is detected, the
ITM sends a message to the BCM over the PCI bus
to invoke the visual alarm feature, and sends a message
to the alarm siren over a dedicated serial bus to
invoke the audible alarm feature. The motion detection
feature of the ITM can be disabled by depressing
the “Lock” button on the RKE transmitter three
times or cycling the key in the driver door cylinder
from the center to lock position within fifteen seconds
during VTA arming, while the security indicator is
still flashing rapidly. The VTA provides a single short
siren “chirp” as an audible conformation that the
motion detect disable request has been received. The
ITM must be electronically enabled in order for the
intrusion alarm to perform as designed. The intrusion
alarm function of the ITM is enabled on vehicles
equipped with this option at the factory, but a service
replacement ITM must be configured and enabled by
the dealer using the DRBIIIt scan tool. Refer to the
appropriate diagnostic information.
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TC

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Re: Disabling Alarm when locking grand
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2016, 07:25:49 AM »

Lock it with the key fob so the alarm is armed.
Then unlock the drivers door with the key and then lock it again with the key.
The little red alarm light should be off.
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