Post by: Jeepers on May 26, 2009, 09:46:01 PM
A kind person who replied to my posting in another forum suggested I should contact you because he says you are the God when it comes to anything Jeep. Here is my cry for help as posted elsewhere. I really do hope that you may be able to help as I don't want my CJ7 to end up as spare parts after I have only just bought her although limited funds may force me to do this anyway!
Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:13 pm Post subject: Jeep CJ7 - help desperately wanted
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Hi,
Are there any Jeep mechanics in my area or can anyone recommend someone or a garage in Somerset?
I bought what I thought was a bargain Jeep CJ7 on Sunday (through eBay), and indeed she is very tidy and the engine ran sweetly. Not bad for £650. It is a 1979 4.2 with auto transmission and Quadratrac. However not long into the journey home a very loud clattering noise, rather like a fan blade hitting something but much louder seemed to come from within. This happened when the engine was under load. Stopped the jeep and the engine was running fine in neutral, couldn't see anything fouling anywhere so carried on a little further. It was quiet for a while and then the clattering came back. Before I could get to the next lay-by something seemed to snap and it went quiet but the jeep was still driving ok. Anyway, pulled over and stopped again but this time when i neutral it sounded as though it was a cement mixer with loads of rocks rumbling around inside! On looking under the jeep I found transmission fluid spewing out everywhere from what I presume to be the transfer box. For some reason the engine was overheating too because water was escaping from the rad cap.
Got her transported home courtesy of the AA and now I am stuck with a lovely old Jeep which is going nowhere! I am loathe to sell her for spares but at the same time I don't think I will be able to afford to fix her unless there are some really friendly, mechanically minded people out there. Not sure what the problem is because despite all the noise and rumbles etc she will still move forwards and in reverse (very gingerly!} If the transfer box was shot would she in fact move at all? Or if the auto box is shot would she still actually move? I have already enquired through an American vehicle specialist re rebuilding/refitting transfer box and they quoted approx £1200 + vat!!!
Apart from the fuel gauge and temperature gauge not working, the only other thing not working was the speedo which I believe is taken off of the transfer box?
If anyone has any suggestions (not scrapping her!) or can offer help and advice, please contact me soon because I want to be driving my lovely Jeep!
By the way the seller was most apologetic but I had bought it unseen, however he did let me have £150 back which was good of him, not that it will cover cost of repairs! I suppose I can't ask too much for £500 but it would be nice if it was going.
Cheers,
Trevor
Your advice, suggestions, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Kind Regards,
Trevor
Post by: Bishops Finger on May 26, 2009, 10:08:10 PM
Just keep Bulldog away or for a bounty of a Jaffa Cake yer CJ will be spirited away....good luck mon...you are ina good place for such matters...
Post by: captain cavalier on May 27, 2009, 02:02:32 PM
if so internal oil cooler in radiator split
transmission fluid in water and water in the transmission
thats what happened in my xj anyway
to clear it all out i had to take the transmission sump off in the end and change the filter
take all hoses off where I could and drain them.
just my 2 pennys worth
Post by: Jeepers on May 27, 2009, 02:13:14 PM
No the transmission fluid was oily dark red and the water maybe just a little rusty looking. I've yet to investigate the transfer case for a hole/split. It was making a heck of a din before something seemed to snap! I reckon the snapped chain diagnosis could be right.
Cheers, Trevor
Post by: Dave69 on May 27, 2009, 06:45:41 PM
diagnosing might be a bit of a hit or miss at this point.
one idea is that the clutch might have disintergrated and damaged a seal causing fluid to leak.
or the transferbox chain has failed but you also might have a second problem with the engine
Post by: Jeepers on May 27, 2009, 06:54:31 PM
Post by: Panic mechanic! on May 27, 2009, 06:54:45 PM
Post by: Ric Jacques on May 27, 2009, 07:02:59 PM
Anyway the first thing you need to do is look on Amazon fr this book;
http://http://www.amazon.com/Jeep-Rebuilders-Manual-1972-1986-Restoration/dp/0837601517/ref=sr_1_2/191-1852091-8957708?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1243446633&sr=1-2
It's worth it's weight in gold, goes right into transfer case and gearbox strips.
Don't be scared though it's simple American engineering, not complicated at all - take a look at my resto you'll see what I got up to with mine.
If you crawl underneath you should be able to remove the sump cover from the bottom of the transfer case. At least you'll get a looksee what's going on inside. You might need to drop the skid plate to get at it.
Whatever you do DO NOT SCRAP HER!
Good luck dude if I think of anything else I'll post it up.
Ric.
Post by: Jeepers on May 27, 2009, 07:41:49 PM
Post by: Jeepers on May 27, 2009, 08:43:15 PM
Post by: Bubba on May 27, 2009, 09:09:42 PM
at a pinch i am hoping that the leak is from one of the propshaft seals or they can leak from between where the transfer case bolts up to the rear of the auto box that always looks bad and seems to piss out but somtimes tightning the bolts can cure this
but i think yours needs to come out to change the chain and hopfully no other damage
a simple chan check is to run the engine up till warm on tickover hold ya foot on the brake and move the gear change between drive and reverse do it several times smothly as you can if the chan is streched it will make muffled clang/clunk niose
keep ya foot on that pedal at all time if the chain is ok you will only feel the surge of the drive moving from forwads to reverse and back avery small almost unoticeable clunk is ok
Post by: Dave69 on May 27, 2009, 09:45:35 PM
Quote from: "Dave69"
you might need to take some photo's as this will help alot.
diagnosing might be a bit of a hit or miss at this point.
useless info removed
yep realised that,
Post by: Bubba on May 27, 2009, 09:50:26 PM
you would need to remove the tin covers on the rear center of the rear wheels to expose the center nut tipex a line that goes down the side of the nut and onto the hub then try and make the slipping noise/ judder and check to see if the lines are now misalighned if they are a new shaft and hub is needed
Post by: Jeepers on May 28, 2009, 11:40:21 AM
Post by: Ric Jacques on May 28, 2009, 12:20:13 PM
I'm not really familiar with the auto box nor your skills mechanically but if it were me I'd pull off gearbox and trans case and do a diy overhaul.
Post by: jimyj on May 28, 2009, 03:03:33 PM
Post by: Bubba on May 28, 2009, 04:23:51 PM
wher the hell are you in our wet and not so pleasant land
Post by: Jeepers on May 28, 2009, 09:09:46 PM
Post by: Ric Jacques on June 01, 2009, 05:05:20 PM
) and see if it opens.I still reckon you have a bearing gone south maybe on an output shaft - they pass through seals before they hit the bearing, if the bearing has gone south then the shaft won't sit centrally within the seal and she'll leak like MI5.
Only way to tell is to open her up and get a look inside!
Post by: Jeepers on June 01, 2009, 08:20:44 PM
Post by: Panic mechanic! on June 01, 2009, 08:38:09 PM
Post by: Bubba on June 01, 2009, 10:19:19 PM
Post by: Jeepers on June 01, 2009, 10:46:26 PM
Post by: Nosebolt on June 01, 2009, 10:51:17 PM
Post by: Bubba on June 01, 2009, 10:52:43 PM
Post by: Jeepers on June 01, 2009, 11:07:29 PM
Post by: Ric Jacques on June 02, 2009, 02:18:19 AM
Quote from: "Jeepers"
Down in sunny (at the moment) Somerset - Bridgwater to be precise.
Fuck me dude I was living in Bleadon village up until 18mths ago! Anyway do stick with it, CJs are simple, really.
Post by: Ric Jacques on June 10, 2009, 06:22:55 PM
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 10, 2009, 07:50:51 PM
