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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: GREGBLACK on April 11, 2010, 11:31:51 AM
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I know nothing about veggie oils whats sort should I use is sunflower oil suitable and what mix ratio, I ask because I have just had to pay £1.24.9 a litre for diesel.
cheers Greg
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how can the petrol companies charge a tenth of a penny when it's not legal tender ?
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very good point mr dave
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Believe it or not you have a variance in the pump - yep you are double shafted!!!
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Brian Reid on here runs veggie oil
some thread links
http://www.birtydastards.com/frm/index.php?topic=11198.0 (http://www.birtydastards.com/frm/index.php?topic=11198.0)
http://www.birtydastards.com/frm/index.php?topic=8725.0 (http://www.birtydastards.com/frm/index.php?topic=8725.0)
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Brian Reid
http://www.birtydastards.com/frm/index.php?topic=12385.0 (http://www.birtydastards.com/frm/index.php?topic=12385.0)
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Barticus?
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Hi thanks for the links guys I had already seen them and that is what made me ask what sort of vegetable oil are you using is it a soya oil, sun flower oil, linseed rape or something else? what do you buy at the supermarket or cash and carry?.
I always read as many links as I can before I ask questions, but if I go to the cash and carry and ask for vegetable oil they are going ask what sort.
Cheers Greg
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I always thought the cheapest oil was used.
I have not read of any particular oil being specified, and would assume any advantage to a particular type would be negligible.
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Order of preference (but let the price guide you, especially as it is no longer winter)
Sunflower
Rapeseed
Soya
These are the main 3, and are in the order of gelling point (when cold). The engine will run on most things (some run engines on old motor oil, hydraulic oil.... wouldn't like to see there emmisions though)
If on offer at Tesco and rapeseed (normal "veg" oil) and sunflower where the same price - I would get sunflower. If rapeseed was 1p/L less then I would get raoeseed :icon_rolleyes:
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Hi thanks guys thats what I wanted to know.
I will see whats on offer at the cash and carry I use.
cheers greg
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I thought rapeseed had a lower cloud point than sunflower?
either way I run on 90% rapeseed, just dont get a bad batch like I just did!
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how do you know when you have a bad batch ?.....it's a bit late once it's in the tank
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I thought rapeseed had a lower cloud point than sunflower?
nope - sunflower has lower gel point, and is less viscous in the first place
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rapeseed husks in the bottom of the barrel would indicate a bad batch!
unless you dont bother to look and chuck it in as I did :jpshakehead:
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Wonderful advert for diesel.
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Wonderful advert for diesel.
Yep - think everyone should stick to it :greggmo:, and leave veg oil available :icon_biggrin:
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quite daft realy, since diesel was a by product of the petrol refining process and was used as a cheaper alternative for the slower vehicle or work horse. Now the sludge is priced dearer than the fuel it was supposed to replace.
since more people are using the veg oil in older cars i'm surprised the tax police haven't put a buying limit on bulk oil or put a tax levy on it if you can't prove it's for culinary/catering needs.
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since more people are using the veg oil in older cars i'm surprised the tax police haven't put a buying limit on bulk oil or put a tax levy on it if you can't prove it's for culinary/catering needs.
They have addressed the issue - and said you can use 2500L before needing to pay duty on it - if you use more than this then it is your responsibilty to tell them that you owe them money
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shame they couldn't do this for petrol :hysterical:
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i use sunflower oil when it can get it,if your in the uk,try asda or tesco,there doing 3ltr bottles where you get 2 for £5.00,think that works out around £0.83 per ltr,,,,if you have a costco near you you can get 20ltr drums of soya oil at around £0.70 per ltr,,,massive saving!!!
sunflower oil is thin and flows well,corn oil is also good if you can get it cheap,soya oil is a wee bit thicker but i use this also and no problems,but all are best mixed with a gallon of diesel at least i reckon,i have ran on pure oil,but you never know what the next moring is going to be like,a cold start on veg oil is a hard start,new heater plugs are a must,there not expencive to replace,other than that no problems,give it a go if you have an xj or grand with vm in,if you are not impressed then i am a banana,there is no differnece if power,i reckon i am getting more mpg and i am not killing the planet,,,the emisions are, i am told, half,an mot should be breeze on the smoke test,mines has never failed,infact once they smell it they dont even bother testing now.
in the winter you can still run veg,but you will have to increase the amount of diesel you add,i do 50/50 to around 70/30,its trial and error,but those heater plugs are important,in the cold morings give the car two or three blast on the plugs before you start to crank,the flash point is a wee bit higher on veg so she may cough her way into life,but once running you will not have any bother for the rest of the day,i leave her 5/10 mins on cold moring to warm up a bit,but thats just me,you can drive right away,dont let you tank gt low,the oil will pull everything in your tank up into the filter and you will have to change it out,if your going to do a filter change,run her on diesel,changing a filter full of veg oil is a pain in the arse and messy,
the engine will sound better,and there will be very little if any smoke compaired with diesel running
best of luck,let us know how you get on
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oh another small point,you can use 2500 ltrs of veg oil per year and stay legal in the uk as fuel for your car,thnk this was brought in last year or the year before,but you are ment to keep you receipts for buying the oil,how they can inforce this i dont know,if you were stopped you going to tell them you just started using it a few days ago arent you!!!!!!!!!
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and another small point, you can fry chips in it too :greggmo:
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Hi Brian I am definitely going to do this, problem is I can not find anywhere that stocks anything over one litre bottles and I don't fancy pouring 40 or 50 bottles in at a time. Actually I am only 30miles out of Glasgow but I never really go there, I got to Newcastle twice a month but time is limited down there. I might try Tesco in Lanark and see if the will order bigger bottles in currently they only stock one litre bottles and it is the same at Asda Hamilton there must be someone that carries 5 litre or bigger in stock.
Cheers Greg
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asda or tesco not selling 3 ltrs bottle,you must be looking in the wrong place,ask the staff,the asda in hamilton will have it i am sure,how ever this did happen some time ago,i remember not being able to get 3 ltrs bottles at one point a few years ago,everyone was buying it for there cars and taxi,s etc.
i live in kirkintilloch,maybe we could come to some arrangement when i am going into cosco,but it would be better if you could get it local in your area.
there is a place in hamilton that sells bio diesel at around 0.80p per ltr,but you have to be there easrly in the morning as he can be sold out by 10am,taxi,s queing for the stuff,there is also another place in glasgow selling bio diesel,they will delivers in 50gal drummer to your door,used this stuff before and its great,think the last price i got was 0.88p per ltr, if this is an option for you.
i know how you feel,its getting beyond a joke running the jeep week in week out at pump prices,yes could get shot of her,but this winter she has been priceless,never missed a day off work in the bad snow and she has never let me down,while other people car were left at the side of the road for days on end.
if you are not sure,but in a small amount and just increase it as you go,thats how i started out,thought i was going to wreck my engine becasue of all the spin i had been hearing,4 years,50k miles,never let me down,running like a dream,,we went to blackpool and back on a full tank of the stuff,pure veg oil,then a few gal just out side glasgow to get us up the road,but at that time i was getting corn oil for....£0.46p per ltr,,,those were the days!!!!
alsso you may want to look into making you own bio diesel from waste oil,all you need is a source if waste veg cooking oil and the right kits to clean it up,check out youtube for more info,just type in bio diesel
regards brian
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Hi Brian I managed to get some 3 litre bottles today at Lanark, they had been out of stock when I last looked so one of the assistants told me today, it is not a very large Tesco and its not the first time I have wanted stuff they should have but did not. I must admit I wasn't very long in Asda Hamilton and maybe missed it.
I had about half a tank of diesel so I have only put 30 litres in at the moment at the moment, I have not noticed any difference in performance but I have only done about 14 miles so far.
I've not got a source of waste oil to make biodiesel so I think I will just be using bottled veggie oil with a wee bit of diesel in it, I have been running with 100ml of acetone per tank in my diesel do you think it will have any bad effects with the veggie oil?
I understand we do these things at our own risk, my brother was asking if he could use it in his VW diesel but I am sure I saw something that said not, could it be its compression ratio is to high I think it is somewhere in the region of 27-1 on the VW Passat
I will let you know how I get on.
Cheers Greg
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the acetone will be good for the veg - lots post that you should be using it to aid it
Tel your brother to go here and check his car out:
http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum/index.php (http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum/index.php)
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Hi thanks to "The Smiths" for the quick reply I will keep adding it at the same rate 100ml per tank full, I thought it might help it flow better.
Cheers Greg
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sorry for the late reply,your brothers passat,what year is it and what type of diesel is it,td,tdi,di?
i am told that direct injection engine dont fair well on the vegi,so be careful and do the research...but there are people out there running vw,s on the stuff but dont know if these are older models,check!!!!
where dod you get acetone from?...you have to be careful here,some thing you are just not allowed to burn as fuel,like white spirit or turps,i am told that if you get a pull and your tank dipped and they finda trace of anything other than veg and diesel you will get shafted for a one the spot fine,if you cant pay there and then,you car is impounded,you have to paya storage fee and a towing fee on top of the £400 fine and the storage fee increase daily till you cough up,it more or less the same as running on red/cherry,,,so be careful what you put in the tank,though 100ml is not a lot.
clad you are having good results,i would run it for a while and then fill her up with derv,run it through and then change out you fuel filter,reason,the vegi oil if heavy,and pulls muck up into the filter from the tank,do this ina few weeks, then you will be good to go for ages,never let the tank run into the red,or anywhere less the 1/4,this WILL pull crap into you filter and she will run like a pig,will feel like she is fuel choking.
oh and watch people driving close to the rear of you,when there car fills with the smell of a burger king fries they tend to hold back a good bit,let us know your findings.
regards brian
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Hi Brian, the acetone I am using is 100% with no additives although the very first lot I used was nail polish remover from the chemist. I don't think that there will be a problem about the small amount I use, from what I have read acetone is present in fuel injection cleaners and some fuels anyway.
Is it just me but the engine appears to be smoother with the sunflower oil and pull a wee bit better or is it just imagination on my part ( perhaps I am driving smoother and a bit more light footed)
As for the burnt gases it smells better than diesel but my wife's calling my XJ the deep fat fryer now.
I am off to Asda Hamilton for our weeks shopping and another 42 litres of oil, If I cannot find it this time I will ask, I have also ordered a new fuel filter to change next weekend.
I don't think my brother is going to do this with his Passat so no worries.
Cheerio Greg
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Does acetone mix with vegetable oil? Squirt some in a litre of oil and see if it does. If it separates, you're
wasting your time.
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Good question and I dont know, I will go and try some -----, yes it seems to, I thought it was going to go stringy at first but it has cleared, sort of interesting to watch.What I can say is the acetone cleaned the running of the VM up and it is performing well.
"the acetone will be good for the veg - lots post that you should be using it to aid it" The Smiths
cheers Greg
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This old article makes interesting reading: http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/ (http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/)
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you can use additives in small percentages - but running on say parafin is not an option, though a small amount could be used as an additive.
acetone is meant to improve the spray pattern of the veg oil by helping to break its surface tension :017:
the engine does run smoother and less noise on veg - power is not increased - if anything it may be slightly down as the calorific value of oil is around 10% less than diesel - but drop in mpg is not generally as much as 10% - and some claim an increase (but my mpg never seems to go what ever I do - only down)
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Hi imagination is a wonderful thing, but the additives haven't made a significant improvement to the MPG and I think the performance is about the same. The veggie oil is a lot cheaper (fact) it does run smoother(imagination?) . The only time I have noticed a MPG improvement was when I first started using the acetone but I was probably a lot lighter on the accelerator than I normally am I get 29-31 mpg driving but light footed I can get 34 mpg. Using veggie oil the figures are much the same, the only reason I am adding acetone is to keep the injectors etc clean.
cheers Greg
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hi stupid question , do you just pour it in your tank, or mix it first
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Hi I put the acetone 100ml per tank less is better than more in first then just pour the veggie oil in.
Please remember no one is telling you to use either or both you do so at your own risk, it works for me and a few others I have a 1998 2.5td ltd and am happy with it at the moment but the long term will tell.
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just bee nto costco,think it was £0.71p per ltr for a 20ltr drum worked out arounf just over £14.00 for 20ltrs.,,plus 6 ltrs from local tesco just to get there,nearly touching the red,breaking my own rules.
yup,thought you would notice the noise reduction and smother running,will try the acitone this week but she, off the road for a few day getting leaf springs, control arm bushes,and exhaust done,getting ready for mot in a few weeks,needs a damb clean out as well.
there talking about the fuel price hitting £1.50 in the next 6 to 12 months,just watch those food prices in the shops soar,its becomes a luxury owning and running a car,reckon more people will be turning to puplic transport for getting to work and trying to use there car/jeeps for the weekend,where is this all going to stop,there must be a breaking point somewhere a long the line surely,peoples wages are simpley not keeping up with the cost of living...it is getting out of hand,,,friend of mine has a landcruiser and can get shot of it at the list price of £15k and its a lovely machine.
more people will be turning to the veg and bio for cheaper fuel and can you blame them?...just glad to hear it worked out ok for another vegi xj owner.
regards to all
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Hi set my cruise control at 60mph went to Newcastle and back bank holiday Saturday and averaged over the 238 miles 35.8 mpg on veggie oil at 83p per litre and 20p worth of acetone, that in real terms of cost £ for £ diesel would equal 53mpg. But 60 mph is not a lot of fun but nor is paying over £1.22 a litre (£1.25.9 locally)
I must start getting my oil at a cash and carry instead of tesco
Greg
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well doen greg,welcome to the club,you will never look back i tell you,just make sure those heater plugs are tip top for the winter.
i tried the acitone this week,just chucked in 200ml for around 25ltrs of oil,getting it into the tank was a lot easier,it pours more like diesel but still a tad heavier,there must be a point where the acitone to oil would make it run/drip at the same rate as derv,this would mean doing a drip test and is food for thought for the future,how much acitone is needed to get veg oil to flow at the same rate as derv per ltr,intresting.
costco 0.71p per ltr a few days.
just got my front control arm bushes done,had them changed over for polys,this i can recommed,had new front shocks but on last year,this made here handle better,but adding the new poly bushed made it feel almost like a new car,very nice ride,will be even better once two new front tyres go on and the tracking is redone,newer back spring were also added improving the rear end height,old springs were broken and other one was cracked...bolt came out with little effort and some heat.
regards to all
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Hi Brian have you noticed any difference between the oils, the rape seed oil oil Asda vegetable oil seems a lot thicker, is there any loss or gain in performance between that and Tesco sunflower oil?
I cracked a rear bumper end cap this week, I must look where I am going in future I reversed into a 2 foot high fence put there by the council to stop idiots like me turning on the grass.
I bought a manual this week off Fleebay for a £5.00 + £8.50 postage I thought the post was excessive but I went ahead anyway, imagine my suprise when I got this A4 size book over 3" thick and published by Jeep Uk no. XJCD1999 no one else bid on it and yes it covers the VM 2.5, it shows all the body work welding and sealing etc, really to much info for me. It turned out the postage was about right.
Cheers Greg
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i tried the acitone this week,just chucked in 200ml for around 25ltrs of oil,getting it into the tank was a lot easier,it pours more like diesel but still a tad heavier,there must be a point where the acitone to oil would make it run/drip at the same rate as derv,this would mean doing a drip test and is food for thought for the future,how much acitone is needed to get veg oil to flow at the same rate as derv per ltr,intresting.
You're not adding the acetone to thin the oil, you're adding it to clean the injectors. Adding more
than 100ml to 50 litres is not only a waste, but has been shown to negatively affect mpg. If you
want to thin the oil, try petrol. This will lower the cetane rating, but it will still run and be thinner.
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Hi Brian Tim is right and I should have picked up on that, 100ml is the max you want per 50 litres a little less is better than to much though it is up to the individual to decide how much.
cheers Greg
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but the acetone does thin the oil very nicely,i can say i have not noticed any improvment adding the acetone,though at time i did notice that when running down to a junction or lights she would judder a bit now and then,this has all but gone adding the acetone,but what is acetone,is it a thinner or a cleaner...it removes nail varnish so its a thinner is it not...adding it to veg oil thins it,cant see this stuff damaging anything,put a match to it and it has a lower flash point than diesel and veg oil.
there are bio based thinners to buy,but yet to find an outlet,also there is a bio bases engine oil but its pricey.
just put here in for an mot today,more or less stormed though it,failed on a side light,,jumped down to retail park,replaced bulb and got ma mot,happy or what,,,,didnt even bother with emissions,,,just asked are you still on the oil? ......he laughed and just got on with the mot shouting to his mate "he runs this thing on vegi oil"this lead to a major talking point about the price of fuel...started undersealing today,,,now that is fun,funny how so little goes a long way,,,great stuff,,,,£15 for big tin,worth while.
greg if you start to get starting problems,change out your spill pipes,think the original are rubber,new ones from car factor tent to be silicon based,the veg oil will rot the rubber pipes over time letting air in,leading to hard starts or cranking for longer than normal,replacement pipe kit cost about £6.00 from factors,it a standard size.
regards to all
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cant see this stuff damaging anything
Acetone is a very strong solvent. Spill it on your paint and watch it take it off. Acetone is also
known to damage many plastics and rubbers (no prophylactic jokes thanks IOM). Use it with caution
in your fuel system, which is full of rubber and plastic. That said, damage is rare thesedays. Just
letting you know that acetone is nasty shit.
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Hi veggie oil at tesco today £2.53 for 3 litres buy one get one free, (6 litres for £2.53) they did not like me buying 18+ 18 free bottles though , said I should not buy more than 10 in total
Greg
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so go back in 3 times, each time to a different cashier :003:
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Already done i spent all my pocket money on veggie oil, I got about a months supply thought some of it was sunflower oil also on offer at £2.93 for 6 litres.
Cheers Greg
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making me hungry
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I like a lot of chips.
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bet it takes a fair bit to fry a king size mars bar too :hysterical:
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I got 120 bottles - 42p/l :greggmo:
nearly went back tonight - but other stuff came up :icon_jook:
Manager was OK - had a chat with him, his staff got him when I was on the 2nd trolley load of 40 - he told them not to worry
by the way 40 bottles = £50.60 = a 5p off voucher for petrol for wifes car :icon_winkle:
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One thing that I have had a slight problem with, it may have been the acetone that found this, I developed a slight leak on no.4 injector feed pipe union I only noticed this because of the the cooking smell that was starting to come in the interior, but it was an easy fix just nipping up the union nut a bit.
Off to tesco again to see what I can get this time,I may have to take sunflower oil this time. Trouble withthe local tesco is it is only a small one and I may have taken all their stock. I go to Newcastle next week so I will call there but the offer will probably have finished.
I stopped for fish and chips on the way home and the smell from the jeep was more appetising than that from the chip shop.
Greg
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will have to check my local tesco tommorow night,ma cherokee is of the road,rear brakes goosed,rear pipe also needing changed out,should be back burning oil by tuesday i hope and then i willl hijack local tesco.
i staff show concerns about the amoun you are buying in only due to there policys of being used as a wholesaler,this happens then big outlets slash prices to clear stock,smaller trader come along and buy there stock to sell on,think this not legal,but dont be put off this happens.
the above happend during the winter,asda were selling rock salt at something like £3.50 per bag,traders were clearing asda out and selling it at a £10 a bag in corner shops.
regards to all
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Hi my wife says the offer finishes on the 18th, or before if they have ran out of stock.
Greg
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Hi Everyone,
My wife has a 2004 Cherokee 2.5 diesel and is complaining about how much it costs to run and was wondering if I could do 50 : 50 mix with the cooking oil, I have read up on various websites and they state that you have to have a Bosch fuel pump, an older type of engine etc, for it not to cause damage. Fuel on the Isle of Man costs even more than what you guys are paying (£1.31 a litre) so I need to come up with a solution or the Jeep has to go which is a shame as we have had it a few years and I'm quite attached to the old girl! :icon_sad:
Your assistance is greatly appreciated,
Mark
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It won't like it and engines cost a lot...
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yup i remember mr h saying fuel was stinky dear over there
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Looks like the jeep going - unless you want to make your own bio
thing is you would only save about £15 a tank full at 50/50
30L @ say 50p cheaper (if you can buy veg at 80p/L)
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greg,i knwow a man who has about 180ltrs of soya in 20ltr drums,unused if your intrested.
he,s over near stirling,would deliver i reacon,he would be open to offers,i bought around 300lts last years at around 60p per ltr,he just wanted shot of it from his garage,the price of oil at the time was around 80p per ltr so it was a bargain at the time.
ebay seem to have a lot of people selling used oil just now,filtered,dewatered,and filtered again and you good to go,prices start as low as 10p per ltr,but you have to arrange collection.
cheers brian
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Hi Brian thanks for the thought but I am falling over the oil I managed to get at various tesco's when they had the two for one offer on, I have got cartons of it stacked in the house and shed, the wifes twisting about it, so I had better pass on this.
cheers greg
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Looks like the jeep going - unless you want to make your own bio
thing is you would only save about £15 a tank full at 50/50
30L @ say 50p cheaper (if you can buy veg at 80p/L)
MMmm Bugger. Whats the best way to make Bio from unused/new cooking oil? Does it have to be heated before use etc, any tips would be greatly appreciated. :098:
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Hi lots of info in this forum http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk (http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk) it might be worth asking on there.
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there would be no real use in making bio from new cooking oil,by the time you buy in the oil and add costs one you would be as well going to the local petrol station.
however,is you can get used oil free,and some people do,i am lead to think that the cost of a ltr comes in around £0.27 per ltr when you take into account costs of chems and the cost of collection of used oil.
making bio is chemistry,its trial and error at first,you starts with a test sample from the batch you want to process,say a ltr,then when you have got it right you increase the chems used per volume needed.
there are ph levels and other stuff to take into account to get your batch just right,and this changes from batch to batch,but once your up and running i am told its a doddle,£0.27p per ltr,very temping.
but if you running an diesel xj you could just get used oil and filter it, then dewater it,then use it straight,it will run no bother at all as long as you filter and dewater correctly,remember get all water out and animal fats,animal fats will clog up you filter and she will run like a pig,loads of info on the net and kits if you want to spend money and make bio derv
best of luck.
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hello greg.it been a while
just noticed you post reharding no4 injector leak,i had this also,but only after adding the acitone,i traced it to the injector spill end cap leaking,seems this is made of rubber and acitone attackes rubber,i the spill pipe are made of silicon rubber,i got an old bit of this pipe,cut it,plugged it and used it to cap off the rear spill pipe,worked a treat,no more leaks.
regards brian
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Hi Brian thanks for that info it might explain why I am dropping a bit veggy oil under the engine I will have e look if it stops raining. Other than that no problems, anything up to 37mpg on a run or 30 around the doors,. Asda seem to be the only supermarket doing cheap veggy now and I am adding a bit diesel to aid starting now the colder weather is here. Looking at replacement tyres soon as they are getting close to the limit. I changed my fuel filter to glass bowl type with a washable element about six months a go it seems fine and you can see any crud.
cheers Brian nice hearing from you.
cheers Greg
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The spill pipe leak isn't the fault of the acetone, it's a known issue with that engine and is very common.
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hi greg,
tyres,i got kingpin remolds real cheap a fe years ago very cheap at around £40 inc dleivery,so bought 4 of them,very good value 235 70 15 all terrain,nice and chunky and great last winter,there over 2 years old,and if it was not for a shagged ball joint and a dodgy rear spring over the last to years i reackon i would be looking at getting at least another year out of them,checked dealer website not long ago and prices have shot up tp around £48 per tyre plus delivery,and you have to get the fitted at around £5-8 per tyre,
the last tine i checked prices for AT type tyres that were not remolds they were over £100 per tyre,so the kinpins are worth looking at.
regards brian
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hello greg,i have a localish source for good used deep fryer oil with little or no water and no white fats,just need filtered and some heating for dewatering(just in case) and it would be good to go,trots in at £0.65 per ltr.
let me know
regards briian
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Hi Brian I'm ok for veggie oil at the moment I still have about 250 litres at my brothers and 100 or so at home that I bought last year I suppose it about 5-6 months old but ok I bought it at about 75 p a litre but its rocketed in price since then to about £1.10.
You were right it was the low pressure fuel return on no.4 the pipe had come off, I probably disturbed it when bleedin* air out of the system, but a very easy fix.
I ran on straight diesel for couple of weeks and the fuel consuption dropped by 4-5 mpg I don't know what thats all about but 27-28 mpg on diesel 32-34mpg on diesel/veg 50/50 and 34-36mpg on 100% veg Diesel is thinner than veg I wonder if that makes a difference.
I nearly spun the jeep today I must replace the tyres they are still legal but getting thin, I have had th back end step out a couple of times now so any ifo for tyres wpould be greatly appreciated.
Cheers greg
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The spill pipe leak isn't the fault of the acetone, it's a known issue with that engine and is very common.
Knowledge way above mine there but having ran on veggie previously (and modded up to do it) The leaking spill (and other pipes on other vehicles) is potentially due to using veggie, be it svo or wvo.
In short if your pipes are a bit worn and weakened the heavier load of handling veggie will put more strain on them and instead of lasting a bit longer theyll pack it all in and head to the spill pipe graveyard asap :icon_winkle:
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On the subject of running on veggi......................
anyone any experience of runing (after conversion presumably lol) a 2.7 crd on it?????