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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: steveclay on May 22, 2010, 07:39:13 PM

Title: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: steveclay on May 22, 2010, 07:39:13 PM
Hi,

I am new to the forum and the world of Jeeps.  Looking at getting a Jeep Wrangler 4.0 manual.

My intention is to keep it for many years.  Is there anyone out there who has put a deisel engine in a Jeep?

If so what was the engine and what adapters were used to connect the gearbox.  I am also considering the possibility of LPG.

I really would appreciate any advice

Thanks in anticipation

Steve
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: Nosebolt on May 22, 2010, 08:05:15 PM
I can find you the number for a good psychiatrist if you want, its a Jeep, they run on petrol, the only mod you should make to the engine is to make it BIGGER  :003:
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: wildwood on May 22, 2010, 09:52:39 PM
There was a weird gent  called 'Diesel Cowboy' from the traveling fraternity who frequented Jeepfest in the early years up to about 2002 last time I saw him .....he had a red YJ LHD with a Transit engine....... never saw under the hood .... was more interested in flat fenders with 383s .... mmmmnnn
But there you go it can be done...... apparently......but why.....?????? if you want cheap get a Smart for the week and tear the arse out of the atmosphere with a V8 at the weekend :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: Bubba on May 22, 2010, 09:55:56 PM
i put a turbo diesel diahatsu engine and gearbox in to a cj7
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: Dave69 on May 22, 2010, 10:50:10 PM
LPG is good for a petrol.

avoid the vm lump


cummins diesel is a common fitment for the usa owners   6bt variant

cummins diesel 6bt in a jeep wrangler turbo diesel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHx10yGBoDE#lq-lq2-hq)


or cummins 4bt

http://www.youtube.com/watch# (http://www.youtube.com/watch#)!v=zj03m49Z0IY&feature=related
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: Panic mechanic! on May 22, 2010, 10:54:18 PM
love the exhaust stack  :lol_hitting: mental......
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: Green Jeep on June 07, 2010, 08:09:32 AM
I'd suggest LPG as well, I have it on my Wrangler, the 4.0 Jeep engine is excellent on and off road, wouldn't swap it... certainly not for farmers juice engine....

Maybe source second hand... look for entire Cherokee with it.... will also give you lots of other useful spares...

Good luck with your project, cheers Maf
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: scrw on June 07, 2010, 09:05:58 AM
I dunno, I quite like the idea of a T.L.C. straight 6 4.2 TD in a wrangler
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: JamesH on June 07, 2010, 11:14:39 AM
 :imwitstupid:

I keep having thoughts about that engine and either yota or nissan patrol axles - not gonna happen in my XJ but the thought still pops in my head for a possible tow vehicle project
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: ferretjuggler on June 07, 2010, 12:08:23 PM
Might as well just buy a Landcruiser in the first place :017:
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: scrw on June 07, 2010, 12:50:42 PM
Might as well just buy a Landcruiser in the first place :017:

Thats just too easy  :icon_winkle:
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: JamesH on June 07, 2010, 01:29:14 PM
 :hysterical:

I was thinking more what I could do with BD's FSJ or J20 if he swapped either for a bacon sandwich and a couple of jaffa cakes.

Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: ferretjuggler on June 07, 2010, 01:58:40 PM
In all seriousness

FSJ to me means big V8 power and big V8 sound.

Anything else under the hood is only half a full size jeep :017:

That means to go diesel I'd have to find a big naturally aspirated V8 diesel (turbos mince up that lovely V8 exhaust note)

And there aint none.

Well there is, the GMC 5.7/6.2  :078:

They are dogs :011:

Everything else is modern and has turbos on it  :banghead:
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: JamesH on June 08, 2010, 05:07:35 PM
I like modern and turbos  :003:
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: tim_aka_tim on June 08, 2010, 05:26:24 PM
Arr. The new 6.4 powerstroke sounds very nice, though not as good as the old 7.3.
Neither the 5.9 or 6.7 Cummins will ever sound that great though, being I6.
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: wrangler07 on June 08, 2010, 05:39:37 PM
I like modern and turbos  :003:

Like my JK.. :003:
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: eastryjeep on June 22, 2010, 06:08:04 PM
Ah. quit poncing about and fit the Cummins 6CTA, more or less the same physical size as the 6BT but bored out to 8.3l versus 5.9
The trouble with the Cummins engines is that the distance from the crank centreline to the bottom of the sump is so great.
Dodge still fit them in some of their big trucks I think, so it can't be an insurmountable problem.
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: Dave The Sparky on June 22, 2010, 08:25:52 PM
If i were you id ignore these petrol obsessed turkeys and fit whatever the hell you like to your Jeep theres enough room for whatever you want to install.

I have a Toyota diesel engine and box in my CJ which i installed much to everyones disgust, but it works a treat even with the standard axles and 33 inch tyres, you just have to put up with the piss taking off the "real" Jeepers, which of course you can because you have made something unique and which is also economical to run, dosent mind water and mud and if you fit an early enough engine isnt affected by any electrical issues.

Plus i would of thought the Cummins the Birtys seem to be obssesed with would destroy everything in the drive train, put the front end of your Jeep on the bump stops and cost a fortune for spares, personally id stick to something thats easily available, serviced and repaired if necessary.
Just because its a Jeep dosent mean it has to have a massive American engine, i may be wrong but i believe the factory diesel Cherokees and Grand Cherokees are Italian and German designed engines arent they? certainly not Cummins anyways. Rant over
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: isle of man on June 22, 2010, 08:28:59 PM
Yes Bastardize another up the khyber and take another crew "KY" member to the limits.
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: Dave The Sparky on June 22, 2010, 08:37:15 PM
your only jealous of my sooty exhaust Mr IOM im sure you would love to have a go at it
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: isle of man on June 22, 2010, 08:39:07 PM
Your too dry for me!!!!!
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: Dave The Sparky on June 22, 2010, 08:40:52 PM
theres a cherry bomb on the end if that helps
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: isle of man on June 22, 2010, 08:42:00 PM
Have you seen BOY GEORGE????
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: Dave The Sparky on June 22, 2010, 08:46:02 PM
Thought he was cleaning some streets somewhere infact its probably on the Isle of Man he would like the sound of that place wouldnt he
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: isle of man on June 22, 2010, 08:51:32 PM
"KY" True he is here!!!!
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: Dave The Sparky on June 22, 2010, 09:59:45 PM
i assume you got your little saying at the bottom of your postings from Boy George or was it maybe George Micheal??
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: isle of man on June 23, 2010, 05:04:05 AM
I'm not  connected with MANXTEAANDCOFFEE.COM????
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: Dave The Sparky on June 23, 2010, 02:39:01 PM
was referring to the fooooooook it till it moves bit although having said that i wasnt aware that the isle of man was reknown for its tea and coffee plantations :017:
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: JamesH on June 23, 2010, 02:58:33 PM
Dave - what toyota engine have you go in yours??
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: Bubba on June 23, 2010, 07:27:03 PM
its a real nice job james very nice indeed makes the 2.8turbo diahatsu engine i fitted look like the chain on the engine hoist broke and i just shut the bonnet on it
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: Dave The Sparky on June 23, 2010, 09:54:59 PM
The Toyota 3.0TD (1KZ-T) mine came from my old 1996 4runner. I did originally put a normal 2.4D Hilux engine and box in the old girl but the 31" tyres i had on at the time meant it was rather underpowered  :icon_sad:
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: JamesH on June 28, 2010, 06:17:22 PM
Nice choice. On the theme, I say an eBay auction for a P38 rangie with a 2.8 Nissan diesel fitted (from a Patrol?) - it was a new crate engine and the work was done by Frogs Island 4x4 in Oxford. I've heard good things about that engine so it might be another choice for the original poster.
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: isle of man on June 28, 2010, 07:04:21 PM
*cough* I have a Nissan SD35 (or is it FD) Turbo 4cyl Diesel here for only £250 Mooooolar!!!! over 300lbs torque.
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: Dave The Sparky on June 28, 2010, 07:55:58 PM
No delivery, Buyer must collect :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Diesel engine for a wrangler
Post by: isle of man on June 28, 2010, 08:00:55 PM
At that price it's velllly CHEAP!!!!