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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Bulldog67 on June 16, 2010, 09:02:51 AM

Title: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 16, 2010, 09:02:51 AM
Im gettin a shoppin urge, and its hot, so being optimistic that the J20 will move one day, im thinkin about puttin aircon in it (im assuming it will be easier to fit whilst all the engine etc is currently out), so does anyone know whether it matters if i get a system from a chief/waggy that is bein broken, is that a straight fit? does it matter what engine size it comes from? Any other pointers? thoughts?

cheers
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bishops Finger on June 16, 2010, 12:47:13 PM
Save the hassle...wind the windows down
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 16, 2010, 01:01:36 PM
nah, windows arent electric (that's another thread  :003: )

ya have to remember these trucks are keepers (if i can pull it off financially) so i dont mind makin them a tad more civilised
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Nosebolt on June 16, 2010, 01:02:34 PM
just some food for thought,

for comfort there is no argument that air con is better than no air con.

but consider a few things, this will be an older style aircon and use some rather nasty gasses which will cost to top up and dispose of old stuff, when running there will be a power loss, on new cars 5-6bhp loss is expected with an older style system aircon it could be as much as 10-15 bhp, there is also an expected drop in MPG, on a new car 2% seems average but on older systems as much as 5% that could be as much a 20 miles less per tank full.

winding down the widows don't seem so bad now  :003:
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: JamesH on June 16, 2010, 01:50:11 PM
Won't there be good enough airflow through the rust holes?  :003:

Just a thought - Chop a system out of a scrap XJ and spend a bit of time making some mounts etc??
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Panic mechanic! on June 16, 2010, 04:06:07 PM
why not just use all new component and get one of these...

http://www.nfauto.co.uk/acheat.htm (http://www.nfauto.co.uk/acheat.htm)

I would think its the easiest sytem to fit being small and compact.

Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bubba on June 16, 2010, 05:39:41 PM
poof
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Panic mechanic! on June 16, 2010, 05:49:23 PM
are you forgetting he IS a southerner? :lol_hitting:
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bubba on June 16, 2010, 05:52:51 PM
yup but his prob is he is lusting over diesel j20s truck my old wagoneer j286 tvs had air wonder if its still about
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Tragic on June 16, 2010, 07:06:56 PM
my old wagoneer j286 tvs had air wonder if its still about

Someone's just shelled out £205 to tax it, DVLA says it is taxed till the end of May 2011 :icon_super: :003:
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bubba on June 16, 2010, 07:12:30 PM
thats nice to know it went to live in scotland but as its a mint left hooker thought it might now be in europe
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 16, 2010, 08:13:28 PM
why not just use all new component and get one of these...

http://www.nfauto.co.uk/acheat.htm (http://www.nfauto.co.uk/acheat.htm)

I would think its the easiest sytem to fit being small and compact.



£480, makes sense but more than planned, altho no delivery as only 5 mins down the road

yup but his prob is he is lusting over diesel j20s truck my old wagoneer j286 tvs had air wonder if its still about



yup  :icon_super:
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bubba on June 16, 2010, 08:18:30 PM
you dream ....that pile o crap will never be as good
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Nosebolt on June 16, 2010, 08:22:23 PM
don't forget to add the cost of filling the system to your budget m8 probably 80 quid plus
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 16, 2010, 08:24:19 PM
you dream ....that pile o crap will never be as good

obviously, but it can still have aircon

but TBH every jeep i seen is a pile o crap compared to his
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bubba on June 16, 2010, 08:25:58 PM
how very rude of ya
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 16, 2010, 08:27:43 PM
i take all my inspiration from u dood  :003:
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bubba on June 16, 2010, 08:28:50 PM
i am only truthfull
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 16, 2010, 08:31:55 PM
u seen the pics dood, its straight out the box and improved with it, may not be as fierce as Red, but its different class, i would (almost) be too scared to take it out  :003:
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bubba on June 16, 2010, 08:35:06 PM
yup it is indeed superb but sorry yours will never be that good not knokin ya but it wont
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 16, 2010, 08:40:36 PM
im not offended mate, i wouldnt even bother tryin to get remotely close, and i prefer the 'just fucked' look anyhow  :003:

altho once that euromillions lotto win comes in i will be leaning on him to sell (you as well for that matter) !!
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bubba on June 16, 2010, 08:42:35 PM
euro lottery would see me and my mates all well sorted
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 16, 2010, 08:46:16 PM
dont forget your adoptees  :icon_winkle:
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bubba on June 16, 2010, 08:48:33 PM
for you i would see to it that all your jeeps moved under there own power
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 16, 2010, 08:49:57 PM
 :023: :F2963JIF5GDQOXEMEDIUM:
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 16, 2010, 08:51:32 PM
Won't there be good enough airflow through the rust holes?  :003:

Just a thought - Chop a system out of a scrap XJ and spend a bit of time making some mounts etc??

I missed this earlier, its drum tight James (almost)  :003:

altho no windscreen should help the flow!
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Mike Pavelin on June 16, 2010, 08:52:41 PM
First stop after lottery win....http://www.grandwagoneer.com/ (http://www.grandwagoneer.com/)
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 16, 2010, 08:53:32 PM
for you i would see to it that all your jeeps moved under there own power

go buy a ticket dood
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bubba on June 16, 2010, 08:55:31 PM
i will friday night then when i win i will buy all the cjs on ebay up and i will be 4wd for the uk for cjs
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Panic mechanic! on June 16, 2010, 09:09:37 PM
for you i would see to it that all your jeeps moved under there own power
You ard going to need a lot more dosh mate. :hysterical:
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 16, 2010, 09:11:47 PM
says the owner of the stone jeep collection  :jpshakehead:
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Panic mechanic! on June 16, 2010, 09:19:18 PM
says the owner of the stone jeep collection  :jpshakehead:
Just keep thinking that.....it may not be a collection for very long.
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 16, 2010, 09:22:00 PM
which one is goin: 4.2 CJ or YJ?
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bubba on June 16, 2010, 09:55:55 PM
he will sell them all and buy a tj
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 16, 2010, 09:57:19 PM
how ropey is his V8 CJ?
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Panic mechanic! on June 16, 2010, 10:05:11 PM
bubba's is very ropey,big red is rotten as a pear.
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bubba on June 16, 2010, 10:06:04 PM
mint by your normal standards but it is static so that ticks a few boxes for you
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 16, 2010, 10:08:28 PM
whats wrong with it?

u will have to tell me Bubba coz Big T is v secretive about his stone jeeps  :003:
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bubba on June 16, 2010, 10:15:16 PM
from  memory it realy was very good there was a paint blister about six inches long on a door from to hot a steam cleaner or somthing it was a 4.2 but he had a running 360 that i put in it had to have a new flex plate hoses and mounts but ran very nice  it hhad the old crappy dizzy so i lent him a later one and it ran very nice but i later needed the dizzy so i think may not have one now dont remember rust on it to be fair
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bubba on June 16, 2010, 10:16:37 PM
steering was stiff :017:
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Panic mechanic! on June 16, 2010, 10:37:19 PM
er steering was set in concrete,other than that it needs torqe converter seal and a patch on drivers floor
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 17, 2010, 09:51:09 AM
is that all  :icon_eek:

blimey, at least i got proper excuses  :003:
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Panic mechanic! on June 17, 2010, 01:12:37 PM
and emtying all the crap  thats now in it!
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 17, 2010, 06:01:20 PM
A CJ skip  :icon_eek:

shame on you, get yaself a landi and do the skip thing properly
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bubba on June 17, 2010, 06:04:58 PM
it would be an easy fix to get this one an mot
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 17, 2010, 06:23:02 PM
agreed, he should be ashamed :jpshakehead:

by the way Bubba, you got email
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Panic mechanic! on June 17, 2010, 06:39:08 PM
A CJ skip  :icon_eek:

its a cj parts store not a skip.... :tool:
Title: Re: FSJ Aircon
Post by: Bulldog67 on June 17, 2010, 07:07:14 PM
no excuses Big T, couple of half assed jobs holdin u up coz u been dumpin in the CJ, and a V8 CJ at that  :jpshakehead: