Birty Dastards Jeep Club
Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Panic mechanic! on June 16, 2010, 05:18:02 PM
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OK looking for a birty who works with vehicle air conditioning! So I can save some earache!
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you talking about a gassing service or do you have a fault, if gas i know a man in Bristol who does m8s rates, but you would have to go to him
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Tina's new bug has air con but there is something wrong with the system as its not chilling at all, I had it gassed up and it worked but overnight it stopped so I am thinking there is a leak somewhere in the system, I was just wondering if there is a DIY way of checking for leaks in the system. weird thing is their does seem to be a fair bit of air pressure in the system. so need some more techy help on diagnosing, (the compressor is switching fine, not sure what to look for next)
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sorry m8 beyond me, but best of luck
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There are many things that can stop it cooling efficiently including
Not enough refrigerant
Too much refrigerant
Incorrect refrigerant
Faulty expansion valve
Moisture in system
Poor air flow through condenser
Faulty evaporator temp probe
Faulty cooling fan
Faulty compressor
Faulty door in Hevac unit
Faulty climate control electrics
Obviously, the most common is refrigerant loss, small leaks can be difficult to detect even for professionals as some components are inaccessible. If you think you have a leak and the compressor still runs, mix up some fairy liquid and water and put it in one of those trigger pump type bottles you get cleaning products in and spray all the visible components, including the service ports with the caps removed. Run the A/C up and watch for bubbles. Anything else is really a professional job.
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I am leaning more towards a loss of refrigerant as when it was filled up to the correct level it worked but within a matter of less than 12 hours it had stopped cooling.
assuming it may be that (and if I find a leak) Is it ok to take apart the system and replace the 'o' rings if they have become perished? or will it still need the system vacuuming out?
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It will require degassing proffesionally. R134a is nasty stuff
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fill it with petrol under presure then check for leaks with a blow lamp i think you will know when the leak has been located
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fill it with petrol under presure then check for leaks with a blow lamp i think you will know when the leak has been located
You jest, but it has been known for cowboy operations to fill systems with Butane or Propane, which is much cheaper and actually make quite effective refrigerants, but have certain undesirable properties that make them somewhat unsuitable.
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wow there realy are some scary operators out there
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Our old Audi had a green dye in its refrigerant as i found out when i bust one of the pipes by accident :icon_redface: a bit more ozone layer gone now. Assuming that the same stuff would of been used in a new VW then it would suggest that the problem has been there before as i dont think you would miss even a hairline leak with that stuff as the dye was a lovely shade of luminous green.
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It could have the UV dye in it if it's just been regassed. Helps leak detection in visible areas at least. BTW, it is very illegal to deliberately release refrigerant into the atmosphere or even charge a system known to be or even suspected of having a leak. Carries a huge fine if you get caught.
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shine a uv light over the engine (not in direct sunlight) any leak should be visible as there is a marker dye injected into the system for that purpose.