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Title: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 15, 2010, 06:55:38 PM
Thought it best to warn you it aint jeep related  :011:

Acceleratin in the espace and as u hit 40mph ish it starts to vibrate and shudder until 50mph ish, and does the same again at 70mph ish

It can also do it, although not everytime, when u take ya foot off the gas completely at 70mph ish, can be quite violent shudderin at this point

Any ideas?

I have just done £25 gettin all the wheels rebalanced and it aint that

Cheers
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 15, 2010, 06:56:23 PM
I shoulda said 'Any ideas apart from torchin it?'
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: MOCAJ on November 15, 2010, 07:03:14 PM
are there any noises or juddering when steering locked right over and going slow, left and right
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Nosebolt on November 15, 2010, 07:03:52 PM
I shoulda said 'Any ideas apart from torchin it?'

Nope, its French so tourch it, you know its best for everyone
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Panic mechanic! on November 15, 2010, 07:05:34 PM
inner cv joint about to fall to pieces or outer or both....I would strongly recommend the above....
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 15, 2010, 07:06:20 PM
are there any noises or juddering when steering locked right over and going slow, left and right

dunno, but will go check soon

and NB & Panic - u know wot u are  :003:
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Nosebolt on November 15, 2010, 07:07:50 PM
and NB & Panic - u know wot u are  :003:

yep, we're right
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Panic mechanic! on November 15, 2010, 07:08:21 PM
yup I am cool I seem to remember......... and I was never stupid enough to by a renault........
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 15, 2010, 07:17:24 PM
yup I am cool I seem to remember......... and I was never stupid enough to by a renault........

on reflection a black bonnet is only makin u about 1/5 cool
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 15, 2010, 07:17:54 PM
are there any noises or juddering when steering locked right over and going slow, left and right

just been out and checked and the answer is no
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Tank on November 15, 2010, 07:23:18 PM
What about the tyres themselves? Have they been checked for any damage,bulges,flat spots at all
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 15, 2010, 07:24:42 PM
all new, changed about a month after it started
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 15, 2010, 09:18:53 PM
inner cv joint about to fall to pieces or outer or both.....

was this a proper answer or just an excuse to suggest torching it?
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Nosebolt on November 15, 2010, 09:27:52 PM
a proper answer, it needs torching cos its french :flag:
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bubba on November 15, 2010, 10:26:53 PM
i am cool and i say torch it or sell it
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 15, 2010, 10:36:59 PM
ya forcin me on to a renault forum, and then ya'll b sorry
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bubba on November 15, 2010, 10:49:47 PM
its such a pile of shit it could be anything not taking the piss it really is a pile of shit and karma will not return till you get rid by fire or sale
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bishops Finger on November 15, 2010, 11:06:42 PM
Torch it..blow it up or buy a Galaxy...
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 16, 2010, 05:16:30 AM
Galaxy is too small
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 16, 2010, 09:33:04 AM
back on point tho: does anyone have any thoughts before I go and get fleeced?

(or does MJS want to sully his hands with some non jeep fault exploration?)
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: JamesH on November 16, 2010, 04:30:54 PM
 :hysterical:
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Panic mechanic! on November 16, 2010, 04:37:20 PM
back on point tho: does anyone have any thoughts before I go and get fleeced?

(or does MJS want to punch me in the face before trying some non jeep fault exploration?)

Corrected it for ya mate. thing is its hard to diagnose problems like that,it could be loads of things, hvae you had the clutch replaced recently? or see if you can think of a another more long winded way of describing exactly what happens.
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Panic mechanic! on November 16, 2010, 04:41:29 PM
oh and FFS get your roller out man...... you ain't 17 anymore.......

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Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 16, 2010, 06:11:05 PM
nowhere near enuff stickers for mine, no flames tastefully lickin their way down the side either  :jpshakehead:

engine mounts or gearbox mounts will be next exploration, all thanks to a shy renault enthusiast  :003:
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Dave69 on November 16, 2010, 07:56:53 PM
yep don't buy French cars full stop. any other car manufacturer will admit to a failure the French don't make mistakes....says it all realy.

just glad i didn't pay alot for this french crap scenic.


my opinion sell it and get a toyota mpv
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 16, 2010, 08:11:56 PM
too small
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: big g on November 16, 2010, 08:44:11 PM
I like our Voyager and it ain't French.

Wouldn't worry too much about torching it they normally do it themselves once they reach a certain age.
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 16, 2010, 08:48:33 PM
Voyager was the only realistic other option (size wise the kia fitted but its a kia, and v v v slow), but i wanted seperate seats (2+2+2) and the voyagers in my price range all had a middle bench seat
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: big g on November 16, 2010, 09:35:10 PM
Mmmmmmm................ ours has 2+2+3 but is quite old.


Sounds like you need a Ford Excursion to keep the neighbour onside.
Heard the v10 triton comes recommended.
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bishops Finger on November 16, 2010, 09:44:45 PM
Chuck it and buy a ricer..
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bubba on November 16, 2010, 09:46:17 PM
cheap old merc estate with 7 seats
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: ferretjuggler on November 16, 2010, 09:47:13 PM
Get yerself and Mrs BD along to a good hypnotist :greggmo:

Swop the espace for an old transit diesel crewbus, then get the hypnotist to convince you both that it is suave, sophisticated, and powerfull.

Errrrr.......and quiet and very stylish to boot :098:
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: tim_aka_tim on November 16, 2010, 09:53:18 PM
2nd gen Toyota Previa.
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 16, 2010, 09:55:29 PM
Chevrolet Surbaban (Holden) has 8 seats (& a 5.7 V8)  :icon_super:

Previa is too small again, we got another few years of tryin to fit a pram in every time we go out
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bishops Finger on November 16, 2010, 09:56:50 PM
I like FJ's approach... :greggmo:
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: ferretjuggler on November 16, 2010, 10:01:48 PM
If ya wants the most bang for yer buck, look at what the Pikeys are driving.

If it's a van it will be a Transit.

If it's a car it'll be a Merc

And if it's a 4x4 it'll be a Shogun

Whatever else you think of 'em, they aint daft :017:
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bubba on November 16, 2010, 10:05:48 PM
true you never see them in landys
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 16, 2010, 10:07:33 PM
Mrs BD likes high drivin position (my fault for gettin her the orvis zj), so an estate is out

I like sound proofin, so the transit is out

And the shogun is a pikey wagon  :003:

I just need to nurse the espace for a few more years, by then my lifted old Chief with newly fitted widetrack dana 44's & 35" muds will be coming home and I can sling in the extra bench seat and we have our 8 seater which Mrs BD likes  :icon_super:
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bishops Finger on November 16, 2010, 10:19:55 PM
So in reality it will be a transit then..
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: tim_aka_tim on November 16, 2010, 10:24:19 PM
AEC Renown
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: big g on November 16, 2010, 10:28:21 PM


I just need to nurse the espace for a few more years

Well,you're right,someone has to provide an economic stimulus.
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Nosebolt on November 16, 2010, 10:48:23 PM
get a divorce and keep yer jeeps :hysterical:
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: momos on November 16, 2010, 11:23:20 PM
what about one of these?
 :icon_biggrin:  a real funbus

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Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Tank on November 16, 2010, 11:31:30 PM
true you never see them in landys

Not quite true,they certainly do seem to like to steal them........
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 17, 2010, 05:25:33 AM
AEC Renown

I had to google that  :hysterical:
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bishops Finger on November 17, 2010, 12:57:19 PM
What about a Routemaster... :hysterical:
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Panic mechanic! on November 17, 2010, 03:32:33 PM
think I saw you this morning mate,,,,,

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Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 17, 2010, 07:00:39 PM
 :hysterical:  :100: :hysterical:
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: duncjeep on November 18, 2010, 07:52:29 PM
Hi there,I'm new here yet I would like to help.I had a problem like that on an old Y plate  fockall cavalier,and it was the front wheel bearings..the rumble was at 70mph and went away at 80mph ..later it knocked like a bugger on full right lock.also the link had snapped between the lower wishbone and rollbar .That wasnt apparent until i jacked up the front wheel.I dont know if the Ren oh!! has that sort of weakspot .Oh and last year I had my tdci mondeo chewed a rear bearing with very little warning on the way back from south of France(repaired in Essex :icon_biggrin:)..see french cars belong in france only :icon_winkle:. Good luck to the repair ,sale,or burning.
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 18, 2010, 07:55:26 PM
Cheers DJ, looks like I have work (well looking anyway) at the weekend
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: eastryjeep on November 24, 2010, 12:35:34 PM
5 Series BMs are famous for this vibration issue which comes in at 2 roadspeeds - no one really knows why they do it as its only about 50% that develop the fault with age, I had 1 that was sweet as a nut till I smashed it and another that drove me round the twist till I sold it!

DJ is very much on the right track here, its time hoik the front end up in the air and start checking all the steering gear, anti roll bars, rubber bushes, control rod ends, the lot!

If its like the BMW it will be the upper control rods (or something similar) - just because they are the most difficult to get to and consequently most overlooked.
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on December 17, 2010, 06:07:52 PM
nearside front drive shaft, naturally only renault sell it, £540 just for parts :010:
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: big g on December 17, 2010, 06:34:38 PM
Terry McCann should have one behind the bar at the Winchester.

Give him the nod,no plod mindya.
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on December 17, 2010, 06:44:19 PM
 :003: Im only barely understanding jeeps, bein an Arthur with a renault is beyond me
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on December 19, 2010, 02:34:41 PM
anyone have any ideas on how i could find out if the 2.2 diesel drive shaft is the same as the 3.0 diesel for the same model/year? can find 2.2 cheap, but none for the 3 litre. Have tried renault forum, but no help
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: daggie on December 19, 2010, 03:28:45 PM
I'll ring me mate tomoz, he's a frenh car breakers
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Mike Pavelin on December 19, 2010, 03:37:06 PM
I'll ring me mate tomoz, he's a frenh car breakers
I thought french cars broke themselves and you just had to collect the debris. Or is that TataRovers :003:
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: daggie on December 19, 2010, 04:03:30 PM
good point, mike :hysterical: :hysterical:
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Nosebolt on December 19, 2010, 04:24:43 PM
Burn It... Burn It NOW. let the flames purify your soul, burn the devil spawn, for all our sakes BURN IT
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: big g on December 19, 2010, 04:43:27 PM
I like your thinking but knowing the Frenchies I'd say you'd be better going to the supermarket and buying a large bunch of straws to clutch.

If it's any help a mate from work just had to spend £97 + vat for a Laguna headlight bulb so 540 for a lump of metal starts to seem value for money.

I'll refer you to our previous statement below,the fun's only just begun.











I just need to nurse the espace for a few more years

Well,you're right,someone has to provide an economic stimulus.
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on December 19, 2010, 04:56:42 PM
I'll ring me mate tomoz, he's a frenh car breakers

Cheers Daggie

and the rest of  :wave-fingersmiely: :003:

prob is havin replaced the engine at eye waterin cost im in that financial place where i gotta be committed to the bitter end
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: daggie on December 19, 2010, 05:41:53 PM
exactly what model of shitheap BD?
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: big g on December 19, 2010, 05:52:52 PM
Quote from: Bulldog67

and the rest of  :wave-fingersmiely: :003:

prob is havin replaced the engine at eye waterin cost im in that financial place where i gotta be committed to the bitter end

Hmmmm.........I see your fun had begun much earlier.

Between a rock and a hard place it would appear.

Fingers crossed about the 2.2 shaft fitting.
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on December 19, 2010, 06:28:29 PM
mine is a 3.0 dci (diesel) on a 54 plate, auto,

and just to take the piss they called the model 'privilege' (not much fuckin irony there then!)

the ones on ebay have a front nearside drive shaft, but are same year, auto, but with 2.2 DCI

cheers
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Pedroski on December 19, 2010, 07:07:46 PM
true you never see them in landys

Not quite true,they certainly do seem to like to steal them........

Only so they can sell the parts. There's a well know LR garage round these parts, and the owner had a LR nicked off the forecourt. Police got in touch with them to say they'd found it in a field and asked the bloke to go and collect it with a couple of mates. When they turned up, the field was full of pikeys. The police kept the pikeys at bay, the owners went to collect the LR, but were stopped in their tracks by a bunch of pikey kids who decided to smash it up. The police.........did nothing. Nice.
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: tugman8uk on December 19, 2010, 07:15:23 PM
hi have u given french german and swedish a try :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: big g on December 19, 2010, 07:20:44 PM
BD, the 2.2 is a 4 pot.
Is 3.0 not v6??
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on December 19, 2010, 07:44:59 PM
it is a v6, does that fook that plan?
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: big g on December 19, 2010, 07:54:38 PM
Not necessarily but more than likely :010:

A frenchy expert would have to confirm but I'd think as the engines will be different sizes so will be the shafts.

That is only applying commonsense so with it being French the shafts may well be identical. :017:
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on December 19, 2010, 08:26:38 PM
 :003: u aint wrong there
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: daggie on December 19, 2010, 08:44:56 PM
I'LL DO ME BEST :003:
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: daggie on December 20, 2010, 10:57:52 AM
right, me mate has no idea :lol_hitting:

most if not all of the said shitheaps are in poland :icon_eek: :017:

he did say that most propshaft builders will be able to repair it
sorr I can't be of mor help
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on December 20, 2010, 11:02:10 AM
cheers anyway Dags, seem rebuild is the main option, altho there is someone on fleabay breakin a 3.0 l so may take a punt there if he ever gets back to me
Title: Re: Mrs BD shitheap problems
Post by: Bulldog67 on December 25, 2010, 08:16:47 PM
scored a 2ndhand part from a renault breakers, all good, nice n cheap, delivery on the 24th, then the dumb fuckers tuffnells left it off the van (& they were cunts with case law on the working time regs) and now arent gonna deliver until the 4th of feckin bastard jan!!

tis a cursed beast  :icon_axe: