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Title: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Cockney Boy on January 06, 2011, 05:01:42 PM
Guys,

I have got my hands on a Jeep TJ that has been heavily modified (at a reet barging too), but it does need some work doing to the gearbox or transfer box as there are some bad noises coming from it. Ive looked ont he web and found a few but they are not specialists in Jeep. If anyon can recommend a company in the South/Home Counties that i can contact.

I also need to replace the seals on the steering box too, but thats not a difficult job and should only take a few hours (hopefully)

I also noticed that the previous owner dented the rear shocks so i am up for any recommednations on what you guys use?

Rich
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: tim_aka_tim on January 06, 2011, 05:09:02 PM
As for shocks, if you prefer to keep your fillings in your teeth, then Procomp might not be your best choice.
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: isle of man on January 06, 2011, 05:53:19 PM
So the TJ is it the "power house" also known at the 4.0 liter? If so your gearbox (if stick shift) is the AX15 normally very reliable - what system have you?
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Cockney Boy on January 06, 2011, 06:09:37 PM
what system have you?

I have the manual 5 Speed. It only makes a nasty noise when changing down (rease the clutch) i get juddering and a knocking noise from just under the shafts. Is it worth taking a few pics?
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: MOCAJ on January 06, 2011, 07:28:13 PM
when you say heavily modded, what suspension lift you running, it could be driveline vibes that have never been sorted

the gearbox is usually trouble free tbh



Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: isle of man on January 06, 2011, 07:41:45 PM
what system have you?

I have the manual 5 Speed. It only makes a nasty noise when changing down (rease the clutch) i get juddering and a knocking noise from just under the shafts. Is it worth taking a few pics?

Yes photos will be good - would like to see the out put for the rear prop including the UJ's also measure the rear wheel centre to the bottom of the wheel arch - can you also take a photo of the suspension trailing arms.




Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: MOCAJ on January 06, 2011, 07:50:23 PM
steering box- i fitted a used one of an xj until i can get mine re-furbed

and dents in your rear shocks are caused by excessive axle movement, wrong bump stops maybe. You can get brackets which extend the shock towards the rear of the truck, they can help  prevent it

but we really need to know the spec as it is modded
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Mike Pavelin on January 06, 2011, 08:15:59 PM
Where are you based?
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Cockney Boy on January 06, 2011, 08:33:11 PM
I will take some pics on Saturday.

The truck has a 2" body lift and a 4" suspension lift

And I live in Aylesbury, Bucks. No Southern jokes lol
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Dave The Sparky on January 06, 2011, 09:12:16 PM
If your a southerner then whos the scouser in the avatar then :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Cockney Boy on January 06, 2011, 09:25:03 PM
Eh eh, calm down
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Mike Pavelin on January 06, 2011, 09:34:48 PM
Sounds like a driveshaft issue to me
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Cockney Boy on January 06, 2011, 09:40:48 PM
I did notice the rear shaft had way too much play, but I've not checked the front yet
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Mike Pavelin on January 06, 2011, 10:04:11 PM
I did notice the rear shaft had way too much play, but I've not checked the front yet
That's probably your problem then. Is it the standard shaft (single UJ at each end) or does it have a double cardan joint (like the front one)
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Bishops Finger on January 06, 2011, 10:31:59 PM
If not mechanically biased Surrey off Road or FTE
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: normalbloke on January 07, 2011, 08:01:23 AM
I will take some pics on Saturday.

The truck has a 2" body lift and a 4" suspension lift

And I live in Aylesbury, Bucks. No Southern jokes lol
Northerner, it's all relative.
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Tragic on January 07, 2011, 07:21:09 PM
And I live in Aylesbury, Bucks. No Southern jokes lol
Northerner, it's all relative.
Tom, you may as well be French........ :003:

Tragic's on the case, and will try my hardest to walk, yes walk the 100yds or so to CBoy's to have a look at it :icon_super:. When it stops raining....

It's a service we provide, free of charge you know... :greggmo:
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Panic mechanic! on January 07, 2011, 07:38:58 PM
don't forget to phone ahead for a bacon sarnie  to be ready when you get there, and a hot cuppa.
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: dieselj20 on January 07, 2011, 07:51:04 PM
Dose your transfer case have a short shaft conversion if not this could be the problem
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Bishops Finger on January 07, 2011, 11:03:55 PM
Its a Bucks Jeep thang methinks.. :icon_super:
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Tragic on January 08, 2011, 12:49:13 AM
Its a Bucks Jeep thang methinks.. :icon_super:
Hmmmm, not quite my little Bish, ya see it's one of them thar new fangled TJ thingumies. We don't understand things wot don't have 'proper' 'spenshun..... :017:







mental note: Must stop posting post pub....
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Bubba on January 08, 2011, 09:16:20 AM
amen to that brother
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Bishops Finger on January 08, 2011, 11:19:29 AM
Oops I forgot..
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Cockney Boy on January 09, 2011, 05:22:51 PM
Well Paul (Tragic) kindly popped round my house today to have a look at the Jeep. And it could be a few things. Front Drive shaft is nice and loose. Front whhel bearings  and drive shafts.

On his recommendation i will call Elliott at EDM in Bicester tomorrow so he can have a look and releive me of a few quid. But below are a few pics i took today.

From Transfer box to front axle
(https://birtydastards.com/frm/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi599.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ftt79%2FCockneyBoy%2Fbdceb83e.jpg&hash=5c38787e32d92689e40f8b51ffed0ed58bd8ec9e)

Front axle (loads of movemet)
(https://birtydastards.com/frm/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi599.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ftt79%2FCockneyBoy%2F49ac4355.jpg&hash=1a1cf52c6a91e797c7a7a1c2b0e7eebb3e99e2a9)

Rear Woody's short shaft (small amount of play)
(https://birtydastards.com/frm/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi599.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ftt79%2FCockneyBoy%2F649ee1fd.jpg&hash=7a431d9e3240404db043a0752f4a604a4e964685)
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Mike Pavelin on January 09, 2011, 06:28:43 PM
Is it me, or does the pinion angle on the rear prop look wrong? Could just be the photo....... Anyway, if it was me, before getting raped by Elliott, I would tale the front prop off , make sure the centerline of the rear diff pinion is exactly aligned with the cetreline of the rear propshaft adjusting the upper control arms if necessary. That should eliminate most of your vibration issues. Then replace any worn UJ ccomponents in the front and rear props, bolt on a pair of new hub assemblies (check the UJs behind them while they're out) and job's a good'un :003:
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Cockney Boy on January 10, 2011, 02:45:52 PM
Well i called Elliott and the earliest he can look at it is the end of January!!!!! so i spoke to the guys at Surrey 4x4 and they can inspect it tomorrow  :icon_super:

Will let you know how it goes lol
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Bubba on January 10, 2011, 04:12:11 PM
 :imwitstupid: dont overspend till you gotta
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Cockney Boy on January 11, 2011, 08:35:21 PM
Well ive been to Surrey 4x4 and had Chris and his Mechanic Butch put it on the ramp and heres a short list of what they found.

All wheel bearings need changing (knew that)
Front and rear drive shafts need refurbing (knew that)
Steering box and Track ends need replacing (knew that)
Rear shocks are dented (knew that)
Rear Diff housing is fouling on the Tank Guard (thats whats making loads of noise)
Limited slip diff (rear) not limiting lol
Engine earth strap burnt on exhaust
Oil Pressure Gauge not giving a true reading compared with the diag tool

So all in all a tearful experience lo :010:l, but at least its in good hands!

Oh and he laughted at the quality of electrical installation. Good job i can do that work myself
 
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Mike Pavelin on January 11, 2011, 08:51:11 PM
Hope you got a quote, looks like over a grand's worth :jpshakehead:
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Bulldog67 on January 11, 2011, 08:53:23 PM
shouda gone MJS
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Cockney Boy on January 11, 2011, 08:56:16 PM
Waiting for the quote, and he's going to split it into Critical, nees doing, and if you feel flush.
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: Cockney Boy on January 11, 2011, 08:57:21 PM
Mansfield do have a good rep, but its the distance.

shouda gone MJS
Title: Re: Recommend a good company to recon TJ Gearbox's
Post by: gazjeep on January 11, 2011, 09:42:05 PM
MJS = Morris Jeep Services aka V8 Bubba on here  :icon_winkle:

Which reminds me Kev.... royalty cheque  :003: