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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Norm on January 07, 2011, 10:53:23 PM
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Finally got round to it,and decided to ship J20 off to get bodywork sorted. I only have compound atm so working out in this weather is horrible. :jpshakehead: Goes in Monday, lots to do but guy is happy its all doable at the price we agreed. Think engine is a dud,but will pull that apart myself and see if its worth rebuilding. Hope BD is still buying up FSJ's for spares. :icon_winkle: Hopefully get some pictures of it at its temp home next week.
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:greggmo: cool, cant wait to see it progress
but wot gives with the 360 bein bad?
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Had motor compression tested by bloke who deals with american cars,said it was well down,obviously I'm not that green and will inspect it myself as I'm not sure he hasnt an ulterior motive after he offered money for engine after test ?? Sorry BD but garage that is doing bodywork has said that they will string me up from the nearest tree if I paint it matt black,lol. :003: May stick with the orange.
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............ Sorry BD but garage that is doing bodywork has said that they will string me up from the nearest tree if I paint it matt black,lol. :003: ......
nowt as strange as folk Norm :017:
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you are that strange folk
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:iagree: :werdsign:
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model T ford ethic for Bulldog.. any colour as long as it's black.
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Some pics of progress. :icon_super:
http://s87.photobucket.com/albums/k136/Norm68/ (http://s87.photobucket.com/albums/k136/Norm68/)
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May stick with the orange.
Definitely and make it sparkle! :003: :icon_super:
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The bloke doing the repairs is Landrover restorer :jpshakehead:,what a waste of talent,lol. I like the G4 shade but told him under no circumstances is he to use that. :headhack:. So either side of that shade should be about right. BD why has it got a Range Rover tank in it ? :078: Tub is made of plate just shy of 2mm thick,so he has had very little heat distortion.Arches have to come out over 4 inches to cover rubber,so its going to look a bit stepside.
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:010: im sorta happy its gettin done, but those pics make me realise why it gave me a boner in the first place
makes the xj look like a mini
Norm, u know u want first dibs on the 401 ......... goes round to a perfect circle for me havin first dibs on the J20 ........ :greggmo:
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:011: bugger
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if it gets a rhino grill im gonna either have to take a contract out on Norm or sell a kidney :003:
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nice one normsky
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You can have first refusal BD,no problem,dont think one kidney will do it though :icon_winkle:. Excuse my ignorance its my first foray into an FSJ,whats a rhino grill ? :icon_redface:
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Thanks Dutch,to be honest doesn't do alot for me.
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Is that rear shackle the right way round ? :017:
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k136/Norm68/jeep011.jpg (http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k136/Norm68/jeep011.jpg)
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yes
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The rhino is and acquired taste :003:
So in which case it will have to be a razor grill instead:
have a look here for the grills:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f57/j10-grill-replacement-831304/ (http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f57/j10-grill-replacement-831304/)
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just in case u havent found it Norm - www.ifsja.org (http://www.ifsja.org) - shud be of help
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Looks like Norm will be on the road with a J truck before you Ade.
Nice work :icon_super:
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that may be true steve if fixing up bulldogs jeep was my full time job it would be done already despite the ever changing plan i do have a sixty hour job and a swarm of kids in the mix
ade knows well the deal and he is free to change contactor at any time..............looking good norm re the spring shackle why when liftting did they not flip it it firs to reduce the amount of spring lift needed
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im aware it would have been rollin before xmas if i didnt keep dreamin up just one more mod ....... just one more mod ........ just one more mod ...........
u get the idea :003:
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that may be true steve if fixing up bulldogs jeep was my full time job it would be done already despite the ever changing plan i do have a sixty hour job and a swarm of kids in the mix
ade knows well the deal and he is free to change contactor at any time..............looking good norm re the spring shackle why when liftting did they not flip it it firs to reduce the amount of spring lift needed
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Errr...........sorry guys didn't intend to stir anything up here, Norm's truck is looking like it will be the Mutts Nuts, but I wouldn't like to be picking up the bodyshop bill myself :icon_eek:
Those of us without deep pockets have to do things by more economical methods.
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main prob with this thread is that it's gettin hold of my sensible head and is stuffin it in a box and then buryin v v deep, and then my not sensible head is thinkin that i def need bigger axles and bigger tyres :100:
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Have you tried living with big lift/big tyres on a vehicle which stays on tarmac 99% of the time.
You might look like the mutts nuts but you could feel like a chump trying to look uber-cool while you cope with sqirrelly handling, death wobble, ineffective brakes and a rock hard ride :017:
I'm not going past 35s on a road vehilce, probably 33s actually.
Anything bigger is for off road specials as far as I'm concerned.
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ya gotta go 35's on a Chief Steve
and fortunately my wallet restricts my idiocy :003:
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I got a 4" lift with a set of 33/1250 A/Ts on nice shiney ally wheels, and a 6" lift to fit if the 4" aint high enough.
Looks macho enough for me as is, I'll try a set of 35s when it's on the road and settled in, but TBH I'd expect handling issues to start past 33"
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the dood i bought the 6" lift put it down to 4" for better road manners as its a daily driver, which he says it categorically has, but, he also regrets it and if hadnt sold it to me would be puttin it back on
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:hysterical:
Sounds like the guy has more money than sense :banghead:
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Its getting there,tub nearly finished,cab goes over to garage next week. :jump_125:
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looking good norm time and a bit of cash does wonders
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Think he's going to find blowing the front arches out a lot harder than the rear ones,as the lines run into and around to front valance.
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Norm, im jealous, if the lottery rollover comes into tonight im makin u an obscene offer for it, I still get locals passin by askin me if its comin back :010:
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Yeah no problem BD,The bloke whos doing restoration keeps offering me money for it as it is,lol. Be glad when cab and chassis are in shop,think engine bays getting stripped and painted body colour,just need a little bit more arm twisting. :040:
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Great progress keep the updates coming....
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:iagree:
I love these rebuild threads; very inspirational.
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Bit of a long shot,but does anyone have a pic of floor pan of J20 ? Does it have ribs or pressed sections ? Its got so many dodgy welded plates on it that none of original is left and restorer wants to get it back to some where near what it should be. Any help would be appreciated. :icon_winkle:
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its ribbed for extra pleasure..... hope this helps
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Sorry,should have made it clearer,its the cab floor I was wondering about. Pickup bed has been done with the ribs been put back in.Thanks.
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scroll threw here.
http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz30/brubakes/J20/CabFloor5.jpg (http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz30/brubakes/J20/CabFloor5.jpg)
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Only get a single pic come up,but that should give him an idea thanks very much. :icon_biggrin:
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Cabs over at garage finally. Off to FJ's Sunday to pick doors and screen pillars up. :098:
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lookin sexy Norm (not u tho dood, the truck :003: ) :greggmo:
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Had me worried there BD. :icon_eek:. Looks like its had a knock to drivers side wing/bonnet area,either that or it was practice vehicle for catty factory. Where seat belts optional on these trucks ? just that its got some badly welded nuts holding seat belts in. :jpshakehead:
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just about anything could have happened to it ......................looks like this will end a very nice truck in the end norm good on ya
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Andrew at lightys did tell me that he had seen it at an offroad event (cant remember where) bein driven as tho the dood wanted to level the course :jpshakehead:
what's a catty factory?
and the truck is gonna be awesome, and more importantly, actually done :003:
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Catty,body filler,must be a Northernism,lol. Chassis rails are true so its no biggy. Saw a LR 110 that he sprayed,looks ace so just need to pick a loud shade of orange for it. :icon_super: Must admit I like the modern grille's over the Rhino or razer tbh. :icon_redface:.Chassis rails are being shot blasted and painted,then back of cab and front of tub will be sprayed so he can put them back together,as you can see from photos it takes up a lot of floor space. :greggmo:.
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just need to pick a loud shade of orange for it.
look at fiat colours, very loud and easy to get hold of, mines a fiat orange
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orange :icon_eek:
there are 2 madmen on birtys then :003:
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I have to admit there is a metallic hemi orange I do kinda like and would like to see on a jeep.
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I have to admit there is a metallic hemi orange I do kinda like and would like to see on a jeep.
have seen that in the flesh it's GHAY!!!!
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do like metallic and flips but far too high maintenance for a froader
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do like metallic and flips but far too high maintenance for a froader
Well tbh dont think it will be doing much more than a muddy track into off road car park,lol. :icon_redface: Its going to be a polisher I think,too much money will have been spent to get it assaulted by trees,thats what the Xj's for. :steeringwheel:
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Owwww a shinny!!!
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Think it deserves it.lol
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Think will have to cut out all the lower front valence and wing corner.........
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Maybe go for something along theses lines.....................
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If arches didnt need to be blown out so far to cover tyres could have just repaired this section.
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Yeah that would look good.
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its a J truck :greggmo: ya gonna have to go major deranged to make it look anything but good
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Down to see my baby today,looking a bit sorry for itself. :jpshakehead:
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Re-wire added to list. :011: :icon_winkle:
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looks awesome to me
re-wire even tho he bothered labellin everything :icon_sad:
Norm dood, u still got the grill it came with? that weird cheese grater thing and the silver surround? it was so weird i kinda liked it so im happy to straight swap for my grill on the new one, dunno when i will get is off but hopefully will be before your finished :003:
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Only got surround BD,nothing in the middle.Its not in re-useable condition anyway as tabs are all broken. Re-wire simply because its been butchered over the years and dont want to chance a fire after it gets all shinny :icon_winkle:. He's taking a grinder to front valence over weekend and will be going down to mock up a few bumper ideas with him. This makes blowing out front arches easier and also gets rid of shit load of rot all in one go. :098:
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dang :011:
u can have that grill as a donation to the Leviathan anyway dood, its friday, i have a new Chief, so all is good with the world :icon_super:
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Cheers BD,keep me up to date on parts you have available for sale. :greggmo:
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Coming apart well,lol. :010:
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crusty
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gonna b the nutz
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gonna b the rust
you must be used to spelling the word by now
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there is that damn softroader drivin sniper again :011:
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Floor looked like a sheet of plywood with all its repairs,lol. Its getting there,advised him to start putting some metal back into it before cab is in scrap bin. Once doors are repaired they will be lined up and temp welded into aperture so he can remove screen pillars and fold some new ones. Think its had some military/fire/rescue service or something as there is round holes all over the place that have been filled in with bodyfiller. must be ariel holes and plugs for electrics. :017:
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is this a pro ya usin or a buddy? he sounds v proficient
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More photos please!!!!
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He runs a business ,mainly LRs but branching out into proper trucks now that hes seen the light. :icon_winkle:. The J20 has actually drawn a lot of attention locally so its helping him attract more business which is good. The screen pillars are obviously going to be same outside shape but hes going to try and simplify design as they are just water traps with having about 5 different sections all spot welded together. :jpshakehead:. Mines a spare time filler thats how I'm getting work done cheap,but it suits me as I'm in no rush and the garage I rent is not high enough to get it in or I would be doing it myself. Should have more pics at weekend if I get welding done on XJ. :greggmo:
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you should link him in the suppliers section
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Tbh he would only be of use if you wanted to ship your resto project up here as he dont stock any spares or anything for Jeeps........yet :icon_winkle:
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transportin a V8 is cheaper than drivin it anyway :003:
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ex usaf fire truck there was half a dozen in mubersons yard at alvchurch just down the road from bubba
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all gone now... :010: its a new load of houseing so I believe.
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i know them well i used to go down and lick them from time to time he died suddenly and everything was scrapped crushed by earth movers and then chucked in to 40yd roro bins and then in to our yard it was a crime
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Have those windscreen chanels been any use whatsoever Norm :017:
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ex usaf fire truck there was half a dozen in mubersons yard at alvchurch just down the road from bubba
My K30 axles came from one of those USAF fire trucks................ converted to flatbed with taillift............... then I robbed the axles off it :ace:
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Have those windscreen chanels been any use whatsoever Norm :017:
Just to show us how they go together fj,there too far gone to recover,he's folding new ones so if you want any place your order,lol. :icon_winkle: He's scratch building winch bumper aswell along with other parts.He's going to repair both sets of doors so there will be a pair available for sale in the not too distant future.
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does he wanna do 2 bumpers?
doors for sale - hmmmm - I wonder what half doors would look like, I may have to go find some pics and maybe buy them back :003:
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Major snag,looks like garage is going to the wall. Need to find new builder asap or Jeep will have to go. :jpshakehead:
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shit Norm that sucks, how much has he done on a %?
that really does suck dood :jpshakehead:
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Only pickup bed done,cab fully stripped and dismantled with floors cut out. Trying to sort some parking out for it atm. :011:
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there must be a few v large empty warehouses up there
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Yeah there is but its dead money if its just sat parked,already rent double garage its just too low for it. :icon_sad: If I cant sort it,I'll just break it,only way to recover some cash,buy something that will fit my garage.