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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: oscar-silvia on May 05, 2011, 06:04:27 PM

Title: oil burners........
Post by: oscar-silvia on May 05, 2011, 06:04:27 PM
ok ive read most of the threads on the dervs, but due to the petrol prices, im gonna have too look for a derv, and with my tiny budget that means a 2.5 td,   can you get away with a coolant change and k-seal and expect it to last???
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: daggie on May 05, 2011, 06:26:43 PM
no :003:
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: Warthog on May 05, 2011, 06:32:35 PM
Buy something else :icon_biggrin:


Merc 2.7D

Nissan 4.2 D

Lardie 200-300Tdi or Td5

Toyota 2.4 DiD's

Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: Lornaben on May 05, 2011, 06:33:01 PM
no :003:

Looking at all the evidence  :imwitstupid:
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: big g on May 05, 2011, 07:06:28 PM
Tick,tock,tick,tock,tick............


Bang.
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: oscar-silvia on May 05, 2011, 08:35:05 PM
i see, well im currently out in germany and get tax free fuel, so i can happily afford to run my e30, and scooby that does 9mpg on the commute, so i could happily run a 4.0   but soon im returning back to the uk so gota be a bit sensible with fuel costs.   on average how many miles are you all getting to a tank on the petrol,  cherrys and grands please
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: Mike Pavelin on May 05, 2011, 09:15:54 PM
If you budget for 20mpg, you won't be too disappointed :003:
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: Dave69 on May 05, 2011, 09:18:30 PM
4ltr as Mike says 20mpg if you go diesel then a little more but what you save in fuel costs you pay out in engine repair for when it fails.

4ltr petrol with lpg is the better choice
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: oscar-silvia on May 05, 2011, 10:22:26 PM
might have to look at a 4.0 then and just get lpg done when i return to uk, as petrol tax free is a lot cheaper than lpg over lol
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: wildrover on May 05, 2011, 11:59:30 PM
I am the owner of a 2.5 diesal cherokee , i have done many miles all over Poland and Ukraine in my oil burner....


Taking it easy i can get almost 500 miles out of a tankfull... i had the problem with the leaking heads , cured by putting in the steal seal...


I love my diesal cherokee , so in all honesty i have to say...don,t buy one...get a petrol cherokee , or some other make with a diesal in it...

VM  diesals are pants...
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: Dave69 on May 06, 2011, 01:44:34 PM
 :iagree: again
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: Mouse on May 07, 2011, 06:37:00 PM
I've got a 2.8 crd Cherokee thats been nothing but problems since I bought it last August. Im now trying to locate a replacement cylinder head as mine and the first replacement I got have both got porous ports. I only average about 23.5mpg so the extra few pence per litre don't make it worth while.
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: daved on May 07, 2011, 07:18:37 PM
Ive had my 2.7 wj since Aug 2009 and have covered about 25k (miles). I easily average out at 30mpg per tank full. Not difficult at all , more if I drive like a frightened nun but easily down to single figures "playing"

Ive had to replace shockers all round, rear springs, brake discs and pads all round . Parts are not expensive (under £450 for the replacement bits), plus routine servicing.

Tyres were a hit but haggling plus quality tyres brought a full set of wranglers in @ £550

Items I consider not fair wear and tear are a front diff oil seal (£20 pus oil), a front brake pipe (dealer only but next day for £42) and the ubiquitous injector seals (ebay £20 something for set of 5 with bolts plus ceramic grease to the door)

All in all  I reckon thats a cheap car to run considering the use i get out of it. It certainly was to buy.

Maybe my experiences with this oil burner is the exception rather than the rule but on the basis of my experiences Id recomend them without reservation  :flag:

I know the OP said 2.5 but maybe beg steal or borrow to get to 2.7 money ???????????????????????????

Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: daved on May 07, 2011, 07:20:27 PM
oh neraly forgot, add a tenner to al of that for cleaning materials trying to get the bloody thing "after winter" clean over the past couple of weeks  :icon_winkle:
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: oscar-silvia on May 08, 2011, 09:09:45 AM
i see your point, and really i should sell one of my current cars, but im planning on keeping them, the impreza is the fun car, the e30 is my daily, and a jeep as a family car :)
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: daved on May 08, 2011, 05:17:19 PM
i see your point, and really i should sell one of my current cars, but im planning on keeping them, the impreza is the fun car, the e30 is my daily, and a jeep as a family car :)


I dont think id sell any of them  :icon_super:
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: LAMBLE on May 09, 2011, 10:35:25 AM
I've had my 2.5td about 6 months now and had a few problems, new clutch and release bearing which failed,heater core and fan belt  idler pulley. probably mostly due to age being a 1998.
Sounds like a tractor but has enough power for what I want, can get about 27mpg average to a tank with mixed careful driving.
Difficult one now as petrol is cheaper to start with to buy per litre than derv.
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: Dutch on May 09, 2011, 12:21:55 PM

I've had my 2.7 WJ since March 2007 and have covered about 50k (miles). I easily average out at 26 mpg around town and 31 mpg long haul

I know the OP said 2.5 but maybe beg steal or borrow to get to 2.7 money  :icon_super:


+1 and added my numbers.

Injector seals done by non-jeep garage £400
New Tyres : 5 x Pirelli Scorpion AT's for £200 on the Bay
ns fwd ball joints by garage £250

Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: oscar-silvia on May 09, 2011, 07:03:26 PM
so i want a 4.0 grand, but one thing thats really bugging me is that if i got a tdi discovery (which im also considering)  id prolly never have to pay for a part again, and thats start to appeal to me, altho i 100% prefer the grand more lol,
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: Dave The Sparky on May 09, 2011, 09:40:11 PM
if i got a tdi discovery (which im also considering)  id prolly never have to pay for a part again,

 :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:

Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: Bubba on May 09, 2011, 09:49:38 PM
if i got a tdi discovery (which im also considering)  id prolly never have to pay for a part again,

 :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:


:hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: i love the optimism you may be a challenger to bulldogs crown 
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: Dutch on May 09, 2011, 10:19:04 PM
if i got a tdi discovery (which im also considering)  id prolly never have to pay for a part again, and thats start to appeal to me

Indeed,  95% of all landrovers made are still on the road..............5% made it home  :hysterical:
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: wildrover on May 09, 2011, 10:43:02 PM


 if i got a tdi discovery (which im also considering)  id prolly never have to pay for a part again


You are not gonna steal the parts are you....??
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: oscar-silvia on May 10, 2011, 05:34:09 PM
sorry should have explained!   im in the army and work with L/R  wolfs all day long, wich are basically disco 200tdi's with a defender body  thats why i need never pay for another part lol
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: Dutch on May 10, 2011, 07:16:30 PM
No wonder you want a Jeep......poor chap.......is there anything to help with (PTLS) Post Traumatic Landy Syndrome  :hysterical:
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: oscar-silvia on May 10, 2011, 08:16:57 PM
i must admit tho, they take abuse well,   thousands of miles, and ragged for every one by squaddies lol
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: wildrover on May 10, 2011, 09:29:22 PM
I feel as though i ought to confess my sins too....

I have a Landrover defender 110 as well as my Jeep....but i don,t drive it....honest...!
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: Dutch on May 10, 2011, 09:31:37 PM
 :hysterical:

Attention, attention....man down in aisle 3

Is there a doctor in the room ?

 :hysterical:
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: ferretjuggler on May 10, 2011, 10:06:21 PM
I'd want at least 30mpg average out of a diesel if a 4 litre with 190 bhp can get 20mpg.

4.0 with sequential lpg would seem the smart move.

Not very exotic but its earned the name Anvil for good reasons :greggmo:
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: wildrover on May 10, 2011, 11:32:18 PM
Quote from: ferretjuggler link=topic=

4.0 with sequential lpg would seem the smart move.

 :greggmo:
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Errr..whats that then....?
Title: Re: oil burners........
Post by: The Smiths on May 10, 2011, 11:54:26 PM
I'd want at least 30mpg average out of a diesel if a 4 litre with 190 bhp can get 20mpg.

4.0 with sequential lpg would seem the smart move.

Not very exotic but its earned the name Anvil for good reasons :greggmo:


You do get 30mpg out of the diesel, before you start modding it - got to say I ain't seen 20mpg out of the 4.0L with same driving style........