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Title: Bloody Cars - (not in my car!) but still me broke down.
Post by: jay140285 on May 18, 2011, 09:00:13 AM

Picking my Jeep up this afternoon from it LPS conversion and new million dollar alternator  :banghead:

SO took the monther inlaws WJ CRD yesterday and today, nearly at work and noticed smoke from the bonnet so got it into work.

Looks like no.1 injector is leaking hense the evidence of smoke, and you can hear air escaping from there as the engine turns over.

Called mother in law, who called her AA and they said its only her covered, great so now stuck at work in Dudley. My breakdown is through my insurance so only on my car. 

Does this sound like the injector seal has gone and can I drive it if I go easy to get to garage about 20mile away?

HELP. 

Title: Re: Bloody Cars - (not in my car!) but still me broke down.
Post by: Dutch on May 18, 2011, 09:47:02 AM

Yes you can but be prepared for the black death  :icon_eek:  

Black gunk will be jetted out of the leaking injector and soiling the immediate area.  You say no.1 ? the one at the front or the one at the back ? If its the one at the front you're lucky.

Also turn your vent off because your cabin will be filled with the sweet aroma of unburned fuel  :003:

Mine did not smoke as such but it was only fizzing.  Yours (mum in-law's) must have gone in a big way then.

The advice of my garage was that you cannot leave it too long because otherwise damage to the injector itself might occur.  I probably drove more that 20 miles before I noticed anyway.

Title: Re: Bloody Cars - (not in my car!) but still me broke down.
Post by: jay140285 on May 18, 2011, 10:04:40 AM

Cheers Dutch,

I can cope with shitty black gunk, just need to get it home or to garage for them to sort it.

Its the front injector, the rear one was done before they brought it by the previous owner.

So I can drive it, just take it easy.

Title: Re: Bloody Cars - (not in my car!) but still me broke down.
Post by: Dutch on May 18, 2011, 10:11:46 AM

Don't know if driving easy will make any difference.  The mix is injected under ultra high pressure anyway whatever speed you're going.

As for seals beeing done ehm.... no guarantee. They can last 100.000 miles or 3.000. Had all 5 done March 2010 and nbr.1 went again early this year. Was dealt with under guarantee, garage was good about it but the black death is always lurking aroung the corner with the Merc lump  :003:

Good luck.

Title: Re: Bloody Cars - (not in my car!) but still me broke down.
Post by: jay140285 on May 18, 2011, 10:14:25 AM

Ta Dutch,

Will leave work at lunch time in hope that my LPG conversion will be finished so I can drop this CRD off and collect mine at the same time.

Update later.

Title: Re: Bloody Cars - (not in my car!) but still me broke down.
Post by: Bulldog67 on May 18, 2011, 11:58:21 AM

Quote from: Dutch on May 18, 2011, 09:47:02 AM

Yes you can but be prepared for the black death  :icon_eek:  

Black gunk will be jetted out of the leaking injector and soiling the immediate area.  You say no.1 ? the one at the front or the one at the back ? If its the one at the front you're lucky.

Also turn your vent off because your cabin will be filled with the sweet aroma of unburned fuel  :003:

Mine did not smoke as such but it was only fizzing.  Yours (mum in-law's) must have gone in a big way then.

The advice of my garage was that you cannot leave it too long because otherwise damage to the injector itself might occur.  I probably drove more that 20 miles before I noticed anyway.

you sir, may now acknowledge i was not out of line  :icon_super:

I rest my m'lud :lol_hitting:

Title: Re: Bloody Cars - (not in my car!) but still me broke down.
Post by: Dutch on May 18, 2011, 12:01:27 PM

Quote from: Bulldog67 on May 18, 2011, 11:58:21 AM

............collapsin in an overelectrickerised heap

you sir, may now acknowledge i was not out of line  :icon_super:

I rest my m'lud :lol_hitting:

Has got fuck all to do with electrics PAL.........  :jpshakehead:

 :100:..... :hysterical:

Title: Re: Bloody Cars - (not in my car!) but still me broke down.
Post by: jay140285 on May 18, 2011, 12:04:31 PM

Think I know why its gone,

They ran out of Diesel last thurs (dodge gauge).
 
AA mechanic put fuel in then removed injector to check fuel was coming through, he must have disturbed the seal hence the issue now.

Title: Re: Bloody Cars - (not in my car!) but still me broke down.
Post by: Dutch on May 18, 2011, 12:07:59 PM

Quote from: jay140285 on May 18, 2011, 12:04:31 PM

Think I know why its gone,

They ran out of Diesel last thurs (dodge gauge).
 
AA mechanic put fuel in then removed injector to check fuel was coming through, he must have disturbed the seal hence the issue now.

Aha.......yep, that must have foooked it.  When removing an injector you ALWAYS have to re-install with new stretch bolts.

Title: Re: Bloody Cars - (not in my car!) but still me broke down.
Post by: jay140285 on May 18, 2011, 12:09:53 PM

Fucking AA!

Title: Re: Bloody Cars - (not in my car!) but still me broke down.
Post by: Bulldog67 on May 18, 2011, 01:37:07 PM

Quote from: Dutch on May 18, 2011, 12:01:27 PM

Quote from: Bulldog67 on May 18, 2011, 11:58:21 AM

............collapsin in an overelectrickerised heap

you sir, may now acknowledge i was not out of line  :icon_super:

I rest my m'lud :lol_hitting:

Has got fuck all to do with electrics PAL.........  :jpshakehead:

 :100:..... :hysterical:

collapse is a collapse  :hysterical: no wrigglin Dutch dood, man up and take the pain  :icon_super:

Title: Re: Bloody Cars - (not in my car!) but still me broke down.
Post by: Panic mechanic! on May 18, 2011, 01:40:31 PM

it does seem they are as comfortable as an armchair and with all the same benefits...... you have to push them around everywhere!

Title: Re: Bloody Cars - (not in my car!) but still me broke down.
Post by: Nosebolt on May 18, 2011, 01:44:13 PM

Quote from: Panic mechanic! on May 18, 2011, 01:40:31 PM

it does seem they are as comfortable as an armchair and with all the same benefits...... you have to push them around everywhere!

:hysterical: :hysterical:

Title: Re: Bloody Cars - (not in my car!) but still me broke down.
Post by: Dutch on May 18, 2011, 01:48:27 PM

BASTARDS !!!

Title: Re: Bloody Cars - (not in my car!) but still me broke down.
Post by: Panic mechanic! on May 18, 2011, 01:57:21 PM

spotted one today offroadin.....






























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 :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:

Title: Re: Bloody Cars - (not in my car!) but still me broke down.
Post by: jay140285 on May 18, 2011, 02:54:55 PM

 :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:

I can mock as its not mine, drove it to the garage ok, bit of a head ache from the fumes but ok. 

Title: Re: Bloody Cars - (not in my car!) but still me broke down.
Post by: Bubba on May 18, 2011, 07:55:23 PM

many years ago i used to work in the recovery industry the aa and rac were not overly rated AA=assholes anonymous RAC=rent a Charlie polite versoin that 

Title: Re: Bloody Cars - (not in my car!) but still me broke down.
Post by: Dave69 on May 18, 2011, 08:14:22 PM

AA bloke removing an injector on a CRD to check fuel flow. What a stupid muppet, it's the last thing you do to check fuel flow on these, says alot about his knowlege

Title: Re: Bloody Cars - (not in my car!) but still me broke down.
Post by: jay140285 on May 18, 2011, 08:20:25 PM

And one that's now costing money to put right!