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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Bulldog67 on May 25, 2011, 09:05:00 PM
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With Clyro closing in on us and havin the stern warnin from Greggmo about the need for recovery points bein compulsory I need some advice what to do and where to do and how to do some recovery points on the Chief, which will be travelling in stock form bar some muds unless I have the red CJ sorted by then (but it may be sold anyway by then)
Pics of the front (yes I know part of it is in a bush but it looks the same as the other side) and pics of the back (ignore the black security post please) are below.
Help please, I got big plans for the Chief but nowt in the next few months so need a quick & easy solution.
Cheers
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:icon_eek: come on, usually I cant shut u lot up :003:
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You need something stronger than a bush...
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:hysterical:
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:clap: :clap:
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If that is a proper, strong and well mounted towbar that isn't rusted to fook then that'll do for rear recovery.
For the front, you may be able to get a recovery hook bolted into the bottom of the chassis rail with a plate inside the rail with captive nuts on. 2 M12 high tensile bolts should be enough for all but silly recovery.
I have to add that I've never seen a FSJ to see if the above is even possible, it's only based on general knowledge of Jeeps and other 4x4s.
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Finally, James offers some tech advice as opposed to buffoonery from you other chumps
I think I have some tow hooks for a CJ laying around somewhere, will they do?
You need something stronger than a bush...
bush, whether it be the female variety or weed, will do me just fine :icon_super:
i believe you are gettin infected with Panics homo erotica vibe :jpshakehead:
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this is truly not taking the piss, but if your taking that to clyro you will have to take it real easy and if it rains at all leave it in the car park cos you, sorry some other poor sod will spend all day dragging your arse about all day.
Why you not going in the CJ ?
The site can be quite damaging too so be prepared :greggmo:
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Steel box section bumpers with integral winch mount, jacking points and recovery shackles fitted.
££££ but worth spending if they save ya bodywork
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Steel box section bumpers with integral winch mount, jacking points and recovery shackles fitted.
££££ but worth spending if they save ya bodywork
dont mind the £££ as Im keepin this one so lots to do but its the time factor
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this is truly not taking the piss, but if your taking that to clyro you will have to take it real easy and if it rains at all leave it in the car park cos you, sorry some other poor sod will spend all day dragging your arse about all day.
Why you not going in the CJ ?
The site can be quite damaging too so be prepared :greggmo:
If the CJ is sorted then yes will be goin in that, but its fuel injection is apart at the moment to sort its emissions for the MOT (also the winch will need wiring up and onearm seems reluctant to attempt that)
but really? Is the site that 'bad' that only heavily modified will get around ANY of it?
damage i can live with on the Chief :greggmo:
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Get a winch bietch with a short skirt and a big bush!!!!
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has to be said that altho the advice has been a bit lame im disappointed none of u spotted the trailer borrowed rear lights :icon_eek:
I do however have stock replacements
im a bit lost on the recovery points tho :icon_sad:
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http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=81881 (http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=81881)
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yup :greggmo:
nut it aint happenin in just over 3 weeks, even if i pay the shippin
but for a larf i will go ask BJ's to quote and let ya know
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Make one, it's not rocket science :icon_eek:
By the way trailer lenses glued/screwed over the US spec tail lights was a cheapskate way to avoid buying expensive UK spec ones.
Abit like the bicycle chain bodge
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I just checked the prices for BJ's :icon_eek: fook me :icon_eek:
Phatphux help?
Wildwood help?
FJ help?
Anyone else help?
When I won the lotto i will learn to weld and then realise i cant weld and then will turn to someone else anyway :003:
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i do have some sets of proper shaped rear lights tho :icon_super:
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i got some recovery points that will bolt on but ya gotta bolt em right by the bumper mounts and only if they are good and strong or you would rip the lot off. trouble is that at this time it anit lookin like i will be makin it to clyro :010:
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ok, cheers on the first bit
and bad news on the 2nd :icon_sad:
so does that put the weekend in jeopardy?
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despite the revolting finish will this suffice: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Recovery-hook-Tow-hook-universal-fitting-off-road-4x4-/250826607051?pt=UK_Trailers_Transporters_Parts&hash=item3a666e49cb#ht_1730wt_905 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Recovery-hook-Tow-hook-universal-fitting-off-road-4x4-/250826607051?pt=UK_Trailers_Transporters_Parts&hash=item3a666e49cb#ht_1730wt_905)
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buy it and i will swap it for a mat black one
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done :icon_super:
altho i got fit them before Clyro
mind u I still got come up to u for the CJ & Chief seat and to drop off Greg's tuffy storage
lets see if the shitheap recovers in time before Clyro (if it happens)
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ok, I got two 10000lb rated hooks, so where do I sling them? I got a pic of the Chief behind the bumper, and i front of the bumper - do I need to cut the bumper?
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if you want quick and easy without doing any damage, take off the bumper and make a plate (½" x 2" x 8" should do) that bolts to the chassis where the bumper mount does and then bolt hook to the plate.
you could even make it up then refit the bumper for the journey and when you get to the site remove the bumper and fit the hook, that way you can travel in full road trim and gain a bit of extra clearance on site
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Attach it to the middle of the bumper nowhere near any chassis...youll be fine..
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more techead advice from the Bish :lol_hitting:
ya been readin up from my manual dood :icon_super:
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Is there not a stock recovery point or location where a stock one should be? I'm just thinking from an XJ and other similar era Jeep perspective - they usually come with a small eye bracket bolted on - not really upto heavy recovery but if you bolt a decent hook or shackle mount in their place then you have something that will stand up to most recoveries.
On your FSJ websites, surely in a newbie section someone else has asked the same question - not everyone goes 35s and winch bumpers immediately
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get some more pics of the underside of the front.
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simplest is a tow jaw in the front bumper with a backing plate the hooks wont work with out cutting the bumper and/ or lots of messing
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have no idea what a tow jaw is TBH - guide/link/etc please
i dont mind cuttin the bumper as it will be swapped out soon as i can afford to anyway
and will sort some pics 2mrw
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is there time for a Phatphux rescue?
If not what sort of money should i look to be payin someone to knock up a winch/recovery bumper?
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http://www.fullsizejeep.com/1024/bumpers.htm (http://www.fullsizejeep.com/1024/bumpers.htm)
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cheers dood, tubes not for the Chief but cheers anyway
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they are a good way to incorporate a recovery point and protection thats all i was thinking buddy
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http://www.offroadfabnet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6307 (http://www.offroadfabnet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6307)
how about this then.
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almost perfect, just needs to be 2-4" taller, so cheers bud, I have a template
notice the TJ flares as well
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BD...Just a thought...you are in KORC arnt you?
There will be Im sure Landy chaps who can weld....and Im sure if they are good eggs can help you out....also MTS and Ed from JJ are down your way and might have some leads...
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was ahead of ya Bish but appreciate the steer, been in touch with a few doods, with the emphasis on it bein done before Clyro, and got some quotes, so, waddya reckon is a reasonable ballpark for this minus the lights:
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500
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cheers dood
I have some major results then :icon_super:
in theory, and I def trust one of them Blues
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it doesn't look to bad but it just looks too heavy in build.
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£275..
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dont forget to check with your mot tester :017:
ooops wrong thread :hysterical:
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today I have commissioned front & rear recovery/winch bumpers for the Chief, all for the price of a bottle of welding gas and some physical labour :icon_super:
front should def be done by Clyro, so Im all ready for Steve to spend his weekend winching me out of everywhere :lol_hitting:
just a shame im unlikely to get up to MJS to actually fit the winch