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Title: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on August 14, 2011, 03:01:27 PM
for the first time in weeks everything has come together, desire and opportunity at the same time is a real rarity these days but managed a start on the 360, few missing bolts replaced (sump pan) and some bodged bits removed (studding with a nylock welded on the end holding on the water pump) then out with the wire brushes and paint.

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the puppy is starting to look like the old man he is too :icon_sad:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Bulldog67 on August 14, 2011, 07:06:08 PM
bit shiny for black but u learning  :greggmo:

cant believe the sweetest runnin 360 i have heard still had bodges  :jpshakehead:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: bigjeepzj on August 14, 2011, 07:50:08 PM
NB
Great Dane and a V8
The best photo i'v seen on this forum  :icon_super:

 
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: momos on August 14, 2011, 08:55:18 PM
aw he looks like

do i drink this, or do i piss on that?

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Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: bigjeepzj on August 14, 2011, 09:39:11 PM
If hes any thing like my old dane
its drink it? piss on it? eat it? or shag it?
in any order.  :hysterical: :hysterical:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on August 15, 2011, 05:18:24 PM
bit more cleaning and painting today in-between other jobs

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also last of the bits for the ZJ diff rebuild delivered today, at least I hope so, for those that have done the job before, is there anything missing?

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Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: MOCAJ on August 15, 2011, 05:29:33 PM
aint done an axle rebuild yet mate, but dont you need dti and stuff to set it up. looks like you have the paste to see how the gears are meshing  :greggmo:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on August 15, 2011, 05:33:56 PM
got a DTI and mag base, was more thinking of parts I missed or special tools, wont be able to start till Friday and have to be rolling by Monday (only got use of the workshop for the weekend) so gotta have it all here or I'm screwed
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: MOCAJ on August 15, 2011, 05:47:00 PM
 :greggmo: Kevs done a couple so will let you know
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Bubba on August 15, 2011, 05:51:30 PM
have fun use ya shim stack thats aleady there as a start point you will need to check mesh patern cant se inch lb torque rench to measure preload rolling resistance

o and mind ya fingers getting the plates and beval washer enjoy :icon_super:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on August 15, 2011, 07:18:39 PM
Kev, keep your phone on please on Saturday m8 :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Panic mechanic! on August 15, 2011, 07:27:30 PM
set up a web cam so we can all watch?
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Lornaben on August 15, 2011, 08:08:18 PM
 :imwitstupid:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Bulldog67 on August 15, 2011, 08:59:38 PM
christ on a bike dont we have enuff filth on the web without NB gettin all oily  :078: the pink massive will be stalkin him bad  :hysterical:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Dave The Sparky on August 15, 2011, 09:31:15 PM

for those that have done the job before, is there anything missing?

A 10 tonne press and a bearing separator  :098:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Bubba on August 15, 2011, 10:41:19 PM
he just gonna sit on it
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on August 15, 2011, 11:21:40 PM
got a separator and 16t press, anything else?
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Bubba on August 16, 2011, 07:46:19 PM
pic of separator ?
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on August 16, 2011, 07:48:46 PM
its  4" clamp type, 2 half moons with 2 draw bolts same one I used on the CJ axle
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on September 27, 2011, 02:57:28 PM
at last found some core plugs at a reasonable price, some places wanted almost a fiver each, got the 6 block side for a tenner in the end and will order the rear block plug when I get the block of the stand to measure it, cylinder head plugs are fine so will leave them as is.
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: gazjeep on September 28, 2011, 12:02:59 AM
oh FFS Bruce, we used to make core plugs by the 100,000's.

Still got some sizes in stock, let me know what dia your after, metric or imperial & i'll see if we have anything.

Text / PM when you know  :icon_winkle:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on October 01, 2011, 06:16:00 PM
sods law aint it, fitted the block core plugs, finished painting the block and flipped the engine to clean the heads and inlet manifold ready to paint and seems I missed one of the head plugs has a hole right in the middle filled with crud, so Gaz if you have a supply a full 360 set is

10 x 1-1/2"  
4 x 1"
1 x 2-1/8" (some castings also have an extra 1-1/2" plug behind the flywheel so I have read)

got the plugs for this block now but I could do with a spare set for when I rebuild the other 360 :icon_winkle:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Bubba on October 01, 2011, 06:19:04 PM
bout time ya lazy bastard
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Bulldog67 on October 01, 2011, 07:03:02 PM
 :imwitstupid:  :003:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: gazjeep on October 01, 2011, 11:34:35 PM
Will have a look Monday Bruce  :icon_winkle:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: gazjeep on October 04, 2011, 07:08:48 PM
Bruce, we still do 1" & 1.1/2" actual size 1.009" & 1.509" for interfereance fit.

Will put some aside next time we make some ;)

Let me know if you get desperate  :greggmo:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on October 04, 2011, 09:12:59 PM
Thank mate, no rush now but good for the rebuild when take old engine out,

OCD has been kicking in today :003:

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Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on October 16, 2011, 06:17:06 PM
bit more progress, took front bodywork off Saturday, and removed all the bits that will be needed for the replacement V8 today, full bolt set cleared customs yesterday so can collect from depot monday and start the final assembly this week, if weather holds may even get to do swap this month :greggmo:

body off
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block painted
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Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: donk498 on October 16, 2011, 06:46:02 PM
Nice one! Lookin very bling, just need the chrome rockers now  :greggmo:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: isle of man on October 16, 2011, 06:56:47 PM
HUBBA HUBBA!!!
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: wildwood on October 16, 2011, 08:04:51 PM
Nice..very nice..... you wont have a prob with the timing then :icon_biggrin: :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Dutch on October 17, 2011, 12:16:34 PM
Nice !!  :icon_super:

What paint have you used for the silver & blue ?
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on October 17, 2011, 12:37:21 PM
nothing too special, heat resisting aluminium paint for the silver and engine lacquer for the blue and black all made by carplan and from local car spares shop about a fiver a tin
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: MOCAJ on October 17, 2011, 01:40:22 PM
sorry to be bit of a spoilsport, it looks good now but will be covered in mud soon  :steeringwheel:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on October 17, 2011, 03:03:25 PM
very true but there are a few reasons for doing it this way,

1 it means I clean and inspect every part as it is used
2 when first run any fluid leaks will be readily visible
3 makes the assembly and fitment a much easier job

but the most important reason.. I enjoy doing it :003: saying that can't wait to get it dirty
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on October 18, 2011, 02:01:08 PM
starting to get pretty now, bolts have arrived and while not a 100% full set the few that are missing are easy to identify, one small set back the thermostat housing I ordered is wrong, its about 1/4" too narrow on the bolt holes (probably an oldsmobile unit as they almost the same) so still on the look out for replacement

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Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on October 23, 2011, 06:17:10 PM
lots more cleaning and painting again today, and a few more bits fitted

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if anyone else is rebuilding a 304/360/401 and is interested i have kept a record of bolt sizes by component for the V8, will work out a lot cheaper to buy from local suppler for the other 360 than the £70 for the 90% set I got from the states
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Bulldog67 on October 23, 2011, 07:20:54 PM
you headin to Bubbas any time soon? Shall i leave the rocker covers there?
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Bubba on October 23, 2011, 07:32:26 PM
he will be up sat i think
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on October 24, 2011, 01:27:23 PM
bit of a set  back today, it seems there are different water pumps for the V8, the problem is with the one fitted on the rebuilt engine does not allow the fitment of the alternator brackets I have

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before I think about spacers or making a new bracket, is there a standard bracket available to fit?
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Lornaben on October 24, 2011, 01:34:03 PM
I remember my bro inlaw having the same problem, He used a spacer made from a piece of round bar and drilled through the middle.
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on October 24, 2011, 03:20:52 PM
think your right, going to space with washers for now, and after xmas when I have the lath back in my workshop I'll make some proper spacers.

anyway needed some feel-good so bolted on some shiny bits :greggmo:

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Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Bulldog67 on October 24, 2011, 06:26:06 PM
cool, so u dont need rocker covers then  :greggmo:

mate, that engine is an obscenity - shiny and blinged beyond belief  :hysterical:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on October 24, 2011, 06:27:33 PM
yea, they are split around the bolt holes and wont seal, just on there to keep it clean till I get the others
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on October 29, 2011, 04:25:12 PM
Nosebolt 1 - 0 special tool

took the press fit pulley off the power steering pump to clean and paint it, was well chuffed as did it without the "special tool" only to find you need the special tool to refit the bloody pulley,  :icon_redface: anyway finally worked out the special tool just screws into the pump shaft and uses the tread to wind the pulley back on, so extended the thread on a bolt, turned a small ally push flange and a couple of spanners and its back on.

only a small thing but been staring at it for days so in my head its a big victory :icon_super:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: wildwood on October 29, 2011, 05:25:38 PM
Too late mate but well done............... I've got the special tool cos I was doing three when I was messing with the spendy pump from PSC...... made life so easy........


So if anyone needs a borrow in the future............ postal costs only............... :icon_twisted: :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on November 01, 2011, 10:30:36 PM
stuck at home today while Tan uses the GC, her bike is haveing some new pipes built, anyway did a bit more, took the carb off the old engine and gave it a clean, was only rebuilt 200 miles ago, and converted the auto choke to manual.

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only hold up at the moment is the alternator brackets, the set I have are for a non AC but this engine had AC, if I cant get the right set then looks like I'm making some, if I do then recon I will relocate the alternator a bit higher, same as the PSP, seen some nice billet kits I may copy but may have to be in steel, will see whats available for free :003:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on November 05, 2011, 03:58:57 PM
done the last trial assembly today before rip down ready to fit. just a few small jobs left

to buy:
VHT for exhausts
plug leads
gasket paper

to do:
make relocation bracket for alternator
prep and paint rocker covers, headers & thermostat housing
make 4 BSP planking plugs for inlet manifold

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Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: daggie on November 05, 2011, 05:00:09 PM
fuck me it looks like a liquorice allsort :hysterical:




























 :greggmo: though :greggmo:

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Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Dave69 on November 06, 2011, 10:47:38 AM
what size BSP blanking plugs are you after and how many ?

Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on November 06, 2011, 04:06:58 PM
1/8 and 3/8 but have some nickel plated ones ordered now, thanks for the offer,

but useful for anyone to know who's removing all the superfluous vacuum feeds of a V8
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on November 11, 2011, 04:45:50 PM
done all the metal work mods to the XJ column today and its now fitted, most electrics are plug and play, got to swap wiper motor to a 4 wire type and I can then use the column wiper switch, also reroute the dip switch wires and connect to column controls. only switch I cant use is the cruise control

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next is to make a hybrid link shaft, half CJ, half XJ

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also had the fancy blanking pugs arrive and they are now fitted, no more messy unused rubber pipes on the 360 now

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Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Lornaben on November 11, 2011, 06:58:45 PM
Well done Bruce, mine is still sitting in the body tub waiting for me to fit it. I'm still buggering about with fitting the new PAS box.

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Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on November 12, 2011, 11:33:11 AM
just finished the link shaft, top end is XJ and keeps its impact compression slide and stronger UJ, bottom is CJ with the booted sliding UJ, so get best of both :003:

join was easy, cut the XJ as long as possible, and cut the CJ on the thicker tube at the end of the flats, use the oxy torch to melt the nylon lock and hammer out the flat sided bar, clean every thing up and fit the 2 halves and mark where the XJ end is on the CJ shaft (need to keep the XJ shaft long so the impact slide works) trim the CJ shaft and use the flat sided tube off cut from the CJ to sleeve the joint.

point the magic TIG at it and splash of paint and you have steering again :icon_super:

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close up of joint
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Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: wildwood on November 12, 2011, 01:52:32 PM
Nice one mate.............. good feeling doing some'at like that knowing that the alternative is Flaming River or whoever and $6-700 :icon_super:

Extended mine for the 1 Ton and then.................shortened it cos I was going full hydro............ :jpshakehead: :hysterical: Still cost nowt tho :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Dave69 on November 12, 2011, 03:08:25 PM
tis always good when you do it yourself, at least then you appreciate how overkill you want to make it.
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on November 19, 2011, 04:46:51 PM
got the engine out today, mounts, flywheel and clutch swapped over
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all jet-washed ready to paint the bulkhead, to much of a rush last time so didn't get done
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tomorrow its paint bulkhead, fit gearbox to block and refit into car
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on November 20, 2011, 05:28:09 PM
good start to the day, needed more smooth hamerite for the bulkhead and it was on sale 50% off :003:

all painted ok, box fitted to block ok and thought i would also fit the trans (normally fit to engine after it in car) all would have been fine it the engine crane was 5" longer :banghead: but the extra weight at the far end has scuppered me for today, that and the light running out. have got a plan for tomorrow involving axle stands, a scaffold pole and a ratchet strap, so fingers crossed
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on November 22, 2011, 01:27:04 PM
and i's in :icon_super: :icon_super:

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Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Tank on November 22, 2011, 02:47:15 PM
Lookin good...... :icon_super:
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Post by: Bubba on November 22, 2011, 04:42:28 PM
well done dood
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Dave69 on November 24, 2011, 09:42:02 PM
just plumb it all up and theres the hot rod look
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: momos on November 24, 2011, 09:44:08 PM
yey  :ace: cool
its too cool to get grubby
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on November 26, 2011, 09:36:25 PM
another good couple of days, props, starter, clutch mech., power steering pump, carb, dizzy, gear sticks, oil filler tube most hoses and cables fitted, most of the other bits that need doing are now painted and i think I have sussed the new wiper wiring.

weather permitting the wiring loom, battery tray and the earth cables will go on and we may see some life, wont be a full fire up as need new leads to fit the HEI dizzy but should be able to test the rest.

still to do is draw up and get machined from some alloy billet a new hi line alternator mount, as a bonus the machine shop needs a new workshop sign so will be able to do a trade off :003:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on November 27, 2011, 03:32:41 PM
another good day :003:

made the alternator brackets and really happy with it
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all electrics now above the rocker covers
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all the under side buttoned up, and the column controls are 90% done, may even get the exhausts and some body on tomorrow :003:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on December 02, 2011, 04:21:40 PM
lost a few days on the CJ, got to take the work when its about, anyway its full of oil, headers are on, it's been turned over on the battery to get the oil pressure up a bit and circulating, static timing been set as best I can, fuel all plumbed in just waiting for new HT leads and one v belt (now need a 1100 as I have moved the alternator and the 1060 don't fit) and we could see some life :icon_super:

will be nice to get it drivable then I can use the workshop across the road again to get the last of the winter upgrades done, new rear leafs, rear locker and new longer front shock mounts, all here waiting to go on..
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on December 03, 2011, 08:22:02 PM
spent most of today trying to sort out why the break light wouldn't go out, all down to the column change slightly different position for the main ignition plug caused it to just push against the break peddle enough to activate the break lights but not enough to take up all the free play. just too about 2mm off the edge of the peddle near the hinge and all sorted. only took 3 hours to work out what to do and get it done :banghead:

still another step closer :003:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on January 14, 2012, 03:49:20 PM
it saw life today, refitted the old motorcraft dizzy and a bit of fresh petrol and we had life, didn't run for too long as no water in it yet and yet to see any oil pressure but that could just be the mechanical gauge needing bleeding.

all in all happy, does sound nice on just the headers but not sure the neighbours agree :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Tank on January 14, 2012, 03:51:50 PM
Thats good news NB,wont be long before being back on the circuit again i hope
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on January 20, 2012, 09:30:27 PM
small set back today, one minute it will starts on the key next its like it has a flat battery, recon its either the starter or cables, battery tested ok and was same on jump pack, so dug out the spare starter and stripped and cleaned it and will be getting some thicker cables asap
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: JamesH on January 20, 2012, 10:38:43 PM
Sounds exactly like when battery connections are bad
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Bubba on January 20, 2012, 11:08:13 PM
indeed
Title: Re: finally got off my ass
Post by: Nosebolt on January 21, 2012, 09:28:37 PM
change of starter motor has made a hell of a difference, still getting some 16mm feed and earth leads made tomorrow, only gotta pay for fittings so can't pass it up