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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: cherokee nutter on October 04, 2011, 02:06:12 PM

Title: XJ Axle help!!
Post by: cherokee nutter on October 04, 2011, 02:06:12 PM: I have 94 xj 4.0l (some of you may remember it at birty breakout last year at wooton basset), i have put a set of 35" boggers and it now eats axles (surprise suprise), need to upgrade to stronger axles thinking Dana 60's, are there any other options?? :100:

If 60's is the way to go, does anyone know where i can get a pair?
Title: Re: XJ Axle help!!
Post by: JamesH on October 04, 2011, 02:51:48 PM: Budget is a key factor!

How you drive it also make a difference. It's possible to make 35s (even boggers) work on a 30/44 combo like stock on a TJ. I abuse 33s on a Dana 30 and Chrysler 8.25 axle combo and they are standard XJ axles (with stronger shafts and lockers etc.)

If you like to use the right hand pedal like an on/off switch then I'd go for at least Dana 44s front and rear. If you want Dana axles you really need to look fr US vehicles (trucks, big van etc.) on eBay or other sites.

There are people who have used Jap axles (Nissan Patrol, Toyota Landcruiser) on XJs and TJs but there is fabrication work involved.

If you have plenty of cash then order some custom Dana 60s from Dynatrac
Title: Re: XJ Axle help!!
Post by: cherokee nutter on October 04, 2011, 03:37:16 PM: Thanks for the info James.
The budget is not going to stretch to Dynatrac, but secondhand axles are an option. Do you think the 30/44 option is strong enough or even a 44/44 strong enough? Really only want to do this once not each time i go a bit hard!
Generally not a thrasher but do like to give it a good go and show the landy boys the way through not get towed (on three wheels) back to the car park by them!! :icon_redface: :icon_redface:
Title: Re: XJ Axle help!!
Post by: bigjeepzj on October 04, 2011, 04:32:55 PM: there's the ford 8.8 axle off an Explorer option
here's couple of of links on how to

http://members.cox.net/rough-riders/tech_page/ford8.8/ford8_8.html (http://members.cox.net/rough-riders/tech_page/ford8.8/ford8_8.html)

http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/ford88.html (http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/ford88.html)

I went with a ARB big spline kit as needed a regear and it's a ZJ so i'v got rear disc's
Run 33" just fine
Title: Re: XJ Axle help!!
Post by: warp on October 04, 2011, 06:27:42 PM: Here a Ford explorer on Ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rear-Axle-V-Reg-Ford-Explorer-4-0-V6-/230681801496?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35b5b4f318 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rear-Axle-V-Reg-Ford-Explorer-4-0-V6-/230681801496?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35b5b4f318)

Just make sure you sort out your gear ratio's I think there 4:10 but check
Title: Re: XJ Axle help!!
Post by: scrw on October 04, 2011, 07:08:13 PM: they are 3.73. Have one sat around somewhere that needs a rebuild :icon_winkle:
Title: Re: XJ Axle help!!
Post by: Dave69 on October 04, 2011, 07:59:00 PM: if your running 35's then junk the std rear axle as it will break due to torque loading. look at the chrysler 8.25 from a mk2 cherokee 2.5ltr (29 spline shafts) and run with that or add stronger shafts or fit the axle from a explorer which is the ford 8.8 which comes with rear disks as std but check the ratios so they match your front axle. the 8.8 is rumoured to be equivalent to the dana 44, or you could look for the ford 9.0 but this is harder to locate in the uk.

another option is to source a dana axle from a late transit van as some have these might ave the correct ratio and LSD if your lucky. the front axle should be ok or either source uprated shafts if you want to be safe.
Title: Re: XJ Axle help!!
Post by: cherokee nutter on October 06, 2011, 05:12:59 PM: Thanks for all the info.

I think i am going for the 8.8 explorer axle on the rear and a 44 on the front just to be safe....:hysterical:
So before i start scouring ebay etc. does anyone have anything available to fit the bill?? :100:

Again thanks for all the info, keep it coming if there is anymore pointers.
Title: Re: XJ Axle help!!
Post by: Bulldog67 on October 06, 2011, 05:48:55 PM: http://forum.difflock.com/ads_item.php?id=14789&sid=5a29a7bbd6def6bbe83b9fb87fd323ca (http://forum.difflock.com/ads_item.php?id=14789&sid=5a29a7bbd6def6bbe83b9fb87fd323ca)
Title: Re: XJ Axle help!!
Post by: Dave69 on October 06, 2011, 05:57:03 PM: if you want to lose some time search pirate4x4 and NAXJA for axle fitments and guides
Title: Re: XJ Axle help!!
Post by: cherokee nutter on October 08, 2011, 04:11:19 PM: Anybody got any ideas where to a Dana 44 front axle??? :100:
Title: Re: XJ Axle help!!
Post by: scrw on October 08, 2011, 04:54:22 PM: Quote from: cherokee nutter on October 06, 2011, 05:12:59 PM
So before i start scouring ebay etc. does anyone have anything available to fit the bill?? :100:

Yes, have a spare 8.8, but it needs a rebuild, suspect r'n'p, but not an issue if you are regearing, still has the brakes on it. PM me
Title: Re: XJ Axle help!!
Post by: dieselj20 on October 08, 2011, 05:30:08 PM: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Swamper-Bogger-Tyres-ARB-Air-Lockers-Dana-60-Custom-Axles-/200659859557?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Rims_Car_Wheels_ET&hash=item2eb8427865 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Swamper-Bogger-Tyres-ARB-Air-Lockers-Dana-60-Custom-Axles-/200659859557?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Rims_Car_Wheels_ET&hash=item2eb8427865)
Title: Re: XJ Axle help!!
Post by: Bulldog67 on October 08, 2011, 05:41:52 PM: holy fook :icon_eek:

lotto winning purchase
Title: Re: XJ Axle help!!
Post by: wildwood on October 08, 2011, 07:07:03 PM: Went to Northampton to see this guy last June when he was selling a Dodge Dana60 front and these were in his Yellow CJ much abused from comps.
Don't know about these unless you got the spare cash.............. :jpshakehead:

But attention Bulldog................... he's still got the Dodge dana 60.................. pair that with the van 70u from last night and you got your 'manly' axles for not a lot of coin :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: XJ Axle help!!
Post by: isle of man on October 08, 2011, 07:52:48 PM: Quote from: dieselj20 on October 08, 2011, 05:30:08 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Swamper-Bogger-Tyres-ARB-Air-Lockers-Dana-60-Custom-Axles-/200659859557?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Rims_Car_Wheels_ET&hash=item2eb8427865 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Swamper-Bogger-Tyres-ARB-Air-Lockers-Dana-60-Custom-Axles-/200659859557?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Rims_Car_Wheels_ET&hash=item2eb8427865)

If they are truly Terra these are very cheap!!!!

Have a Terra on the Mafia front cost over $13,0000

Just looked at the photos - Will get your hand up!!!!
Title: Re: XJ Axle help!!
Post by: willo on October 08, 2011, 08:52:52 PM: Quote from: isle of man on October 08, 2011, 07:52:48 PM
Quote from: dieselj20 on October 08, 2011, 05:30:08 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Swamper-Bogger-Tyres-ARB-Air-Lockers-Dana-60-Custom-Axles-/200659859557?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Rims_Car_Wheels_ET&hash=item2eb8427865 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Swamper-Bogger-Tyres-ARB-Air-Lockers-Dana-60-Custom-Axles-/200659859557?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Rims_Car_Wheels_ET&hash=item2eb8427865)

If they are truly Terra these are very cheap!!!!

Have a Terra on the Mafia front cost over $13,0000

Just looked at the photos - Will get your hand up!!!!

is that one too many 0's?

loverly axles, i've not got the cash for them unless I sell the jeep.....
Title: Re: XJ Axle help!!
Post by: Bulldog67 on October 08, 2011, 09:17:17 PM: u gettin sucked into the ver spiraling world of loons dood - run away :003:
Title: Re: XJ Axle help!!
Post by: Bulldog67 on October 11, 2011, 06:53:59 PM: any good;

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230684819595&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_500wt_1156 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230684819595&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_500wt_1156)