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Title: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: big_patrol on October 28, 2011, 09:06:59 PM
I am having a off roader built and thought you may like it, however its not a Jeep

So before I go typying my little head off, Ill post a link to another forum its on

If you like ill put the updates on here too.

http://forum.difflock.com/viewtopic.php?t=53401 (http://forum.difflock.com/viewtopic.php?t=53401)

Thank you for looking

Danny
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: Lornaben on October 28, 2011, 09:27:07 PM
Welding porn  :icon_super:
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: wildwood on October 28, 2011, 09:42:14 PM
Amazing workmanship and skill........... we need to see this in the flesh. :icon_super:
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: Dave The Sparky on October 28, 2011, 09:42:54 PM
Its ghay it will never work  :003:
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: Bulldog67 on October 28, 2011, 09:45:57 PM
I was tired after the first half of the first page, someone will have to tell me what happens  :003:
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: wildwood on October 28, 2011, 11:37:12 PM
Right up my street at the mo........... cos it was all 4 linky and stuff.........

Can see I'll be researching this for the next year................ never one to rush in :jpshakehead: :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: isle of man on October 29, 2011, 07:15:19 AM
I see you've been busy...
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: Dave69 on November 09, 2011, 07:00:49 PM
nicw build from scratch but is the articulation realistic ?
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: big_patrol on November 09, 2011, 07:56:41 PM
In what sense do you mean is it realistic?
If you mean can it do that then yes thats how it will articulate then yes that is what it will do when finished. Its not just for posing.
If your asking the greatly debated does lots of travel really help then I think everybody has their opinions. I have off roaded for along time in a hell of alot of different cars and personally think its fantastic.

Danny
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: Dave69 on November 15, 2011, 01:16:01 PM
by the question is that exactly, even though the chassis flexes to that amount will you be still expecting the same once the bodywork and ancillaries are put back into place.

Flex is more important than lift but each has a big cost involved to get there. Nice work
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: big_patrol on November 15, 2011, 05:14:18 PM
A yeah, it will flex like that with the body work yeah as in there is hardly any left.

Cheers

Danny
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: altezza200 on December 05, 2011, 02:32:01 AM
my wife couldnt give me the orgasm that engineering did.


DO YOU WANNA TAKE A TRIP OVER THE THE WEST OF IRELAND AND BUILD ME A SHED OUT OF STEEL THAT CAN WITHSTAND ALL THE RAIN WE GET LOL
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: big_patrol on October 22, 2012, 08:25:44 PM
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Buggy is looking more like this these days would you guys like the updates on here?
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: jay140285 on October 22, 2012, 09:13:39 PM
Go for it mate, means I can read in here and on FB.
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: Dave The Sparky on October 22, 2012, 09:13:56 PM
Get it whacked on here Danny, its may not be a Jeep but at least its not a thread on politics or about someones hamster with type 2 diabetes  :003:
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: big_patrol on October 22, 2012, 09:34:20 PM
right well ill do a pic over load as against typing and if there is out you wanna know just ask away
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Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
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Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: big_patrol on October 22, 2012, 09:44:00 PM
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Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
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Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
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Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: big_patrol on October 22, 2012, 09:59:12 PM
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Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: Green Jeep on October 23, 2012, 10:18:32 AM
One word: Awesome!
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: wildwood on October 23, 2012, 10:26:42 AM
4 link front..........nice..........is that at full bump or will top arms of 4 link come closer to sump with the airbumps..?
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: big_patrol on October 24, 2012, 03:00:21 PM
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Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: wildwood on October 24, 2012, 04:12:24 PM
impressed :icon_super:
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: big_patrol on October 24, 2012, 04:25:48 PM
Cheers couple more pics
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Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: wildwood on October 24, 2012, 06:20:44 PM
Like the use of Dimple dies........ Kin expensive to get over here ........all over the place like a rash in septic land..???
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: isle of man on October 24, 2012, 06:22:14 PM
Why coilover?
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: willo on October 24, 2012, 06:23:24 PM
Why coilover?

its better than fallover :greggmo:
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: isle of man on October 24, 2012, 06:32:13 PM
But that's exactly my point fooooking things are shiet!!
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: willo on October 24, 2012, 06:38:29 PM
But that's exactly my point fooooking things are shiet!!

eh :017:

whats the alternatives? ori's??

I am getting to grips with my airshocks, they will be awesome when I've finished tweeking, but it does involve excel sheets as for different applications/ loads the settings are different....but oh my :greggmo:
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: isle of man on October 24, 2012, 06:43:21 PM
Like I said to you some time ago, airshock are OK but when you go ORI it's another level.

Coilovers are unpredictable, helper spring, bump stop, nitro, warm-up and all that jizz....
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: wildwood on October 24, 2012, 07:33:24 PM
Bugger.... Got me researching ORI now haven' t you?

anyway one of the beauties with 16" travel will set you back $612 :hysterical:
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: isle of man on October 24, 2012, 07:39:19 PM
16" travel KN'ell what are you planning, putting a leg into the next shire?
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: wildwood on October 24, 2012, 09:01:02 PM
8 up and 8 down???    Gotta compete with these Willys boys...... :icon_super:


Just a thought for the 4  link rear treatment of the 1 Tonne.... Open to suggestions? though not to hijack this thread!
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: isle of man on October 24, 2012, 09:23:10 PM
It don't count for shiet 12" works (depending on tyres) and it's stable, go for the tummy tuck and suck down, no use having your balls dangling about!!
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: big_patrol on October 24, 2012, 11:26:35 PM
There are plenty of coilovered trucks out thre that work so I can't imagine its fair to say they are shite. I agree ORI's are very highly spoke of but they are expensive and when i bought these they were in heard of. I like a lot of travel and so long as your not adding it to a top heavy turd there is no reason it cant work.
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: isle of man on October 25, 2012, 02:51:05 PM
My experiences with coilovers have been for two vehicles, firstly the Mafia a TJ Wrangler heavily modified, bilstein 9100 front (coil spring rear) bugger to set up and the lower collar seat let go more than once!! Secondly Strikeone the Diablo buggy had FOX coilovers front and air rear never felt comfortable, bit like the feeling you get at the point of no return.


So my experience is real life but you have another view and that's what makes as all different.


**now back on topic**
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: big_patrol on October 25, 2012, 05:29:15 PM
A mate of mine came down today and wanted to see her flexing
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Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: wildwood on October 25, 2012, 06:28:23 PM
Often wonder if Air bumps ought to be at an angle for monster articulation like this???? Just a thought?
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: willo on October 25, 2012, 06:36:46 PM
Often wonder if Air bumps ought to be at an angle for monster articulation like this???? Just a thought?

why :017:
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: big_patrol on October 25, 2012, 07:27:47 PM
 We were having the same conversation today im not sure I need a bump stop at full flex but defo want them at full bump. The only way to have both would be to mount them in the same plain as the shocks but then on a hard landing the forces would not be direct to the bumps they would be at an angle. It's all a learning curve. The teat drive will be pre paint so we can answer questions like this and possibly adapt. Time will tell
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: wildwood on October 25, 2012, 07:37:50 PM
Often wonder if Air bumps ought to be at an angle for monster articulation like this???? Just a thought?

why :017:


basically Tis what Big patrol says.......

You need them at full stuff at speed........ No arguement
But at monster articulation if they make contact at an angle they will get rogered or bent or jammed.......or......maybe as Big Patrol says they aren't really needed.......as lI said was just a thought looking at things contacting at an angle and looking like they won't work in a healthy way......Only a test off road will decide :icon_super:
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: isle of man on October 25, 2012, 07:42:04 PM
I took them off the Mafia, they just get in the way of things and speed/jumps was never my thing.


Keep It Simple And Light!!!
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: willo on October 25, 2012, 07:45:24 PM
i understand, maybe some rubber on the lca''s would suffice?
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: isle of man on October 25, 2012, 07:48:54 PM
Tried that!!! You will find it needs to have the foot print of the Ark Royal to find the sweet spot.
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: cheese_aholic on October 25, 2012, 08:02:24 PM
A mate of mine came down today and wanted to see her flexing
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Jaysus man! That is some serious articulation! Lovin the build thread, she's gonna be an awesome machine....
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: big_patrol on October 25, 2012, 08:28:09 PM
I do intend to go at speed that's why they are there, when I'm doing kov I'm expecting to get airborne once or twice  :icon_super:
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: Dave The Sparky on October 25, 2012, 11:13:06 PM
I do intend to go at speed that's why they are there, when I'm doing kov I'm expecting to get airborne once or twice  :icon_super:

That will be when the air ambulance has to come and pick you up then  :eusa_whistle:
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: j33pky on October 26, 2012, 11:20:38 AM
Surely tha normal ambulance will be able to get to the kov carpark where he will have broken down....?   Or he has gone down on mr isle of man when he has lost the bet.
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: big_patrol on October 26, 2012, 12:57:19 PM
 Less of the cheek or ill make you cry again  :icon_eek:
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: Dave The Sparky on October 26, 2012, 03:45:00 PM
Less of the cheek or ill make you cry again  :icon_eek:

That sounds painful
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: bigjeepzj on October 26, 2012, 04:16:45 PM
BP do you know a Chris from Manchester works for network rail
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: big_patrol on October 26, 2012, 05:52:39 PM
Chris booth?
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: bigjeepzj on October 26, 2012, 06:04:07 PM
yep
I just spent the last 3 days trying to teach he about axle counters
And he, the last 3 days talking  :ecomcity: :ecomcity: :ecomcity: :ecomcity:  :lol_hitting:
Hes a good laugh to have on a course and has more story's than penguin books   
Title: Re: Not a Jeep bet thought you may like my other off roader build
Post by: big_patrol on October 26, 2012, 06:43:09 PM
Yeah he is a good bloke sure has a tale or two