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Title: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 25, 2011, 05:36:58 PM
So, decided to go belt and braces on the Molotov lift and have new bushes, but naturally gettin the old ones out are a fucker, and Im gonna assume gettin new ones in will be likewise, so hints, tricks, and general USEFUL advice please

cheers gents & momoomomomos  :greggmo:
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Bishops Finger on November 25, 2011, 05:41:23 PM
Use a garage
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 25, 2011, 05:43:22 PM
Im branching out into poverty based mechanics  :010:
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Nosebolt on November 25, 2011, 05:44:36 PM
blow torch and BFH to get out and nut n bolt and big washers to get new in
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: MOCAJ on November 25, 2011, 05:46:19 PM
also put new bushes in hot water before fitting, makes em soft and easier to get in  :icon_winkle:
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 25, 2011, 05:49:27 PM
blow torch and BFH to get out and nut n bolt and big washers to get new in

Big Fuckin Hammer?
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Nosebolt on November 25, 2011, 05:55:32 PM
you got it :003:
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 25, 2011, 05:59:46 PM
 :003:  :lol_hitting:
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: JamesH on November 25, 2011, 08:39:29 PM
10 tonne +  floor press to get them in

A stressful day and then a BFH, screwdriver, saw, blow torch, whatever is nearby will get them out  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Bubba on November 25, 2011, 08:56:15 PM
 :iagree:  thats why i have two presses
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Nosebolt on November 25, 2011, 08:59:04 PM
no, thats why you would have A press, you have two cos your greedy :hysterical: :hysterical:
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Bubba on November 25, 2011, 09:04:06 PM
i have a fly press and a hydraulic  so it makes perfect sense
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: bigjeepzj on November 25, 2011, 09:36:41 PM
Used one of thses befor now to remove them
(https://birtydastards.com/frm/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flints.co.uk%2Facatalog%2FHole_Saw.jpg&hash=fa6d5475f5640ef9fb240a3ff0a6f4b7c1bbdb48)
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 25, 2011, 10:50:11 PM
floor press  :017:

Im fooked  :010:
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: eastryjeep on November 25, 2011, 10:55:06 PM
Remove springs, burn out rubber, slit outer sleeve with hacksaw, bend sleeve to make smaller, watch in amazement as it falls on your foot!
Installation is nothing like removal.
Wedge spring eye open slightly with large flat bladed screwdriver to give new bush a lead in, grease outer surface of bush sleeve, install threaded rod (or long bolt) through centre of bush and suitable large washers.  Put nut on other end and wind bush into place.  Congratulate yourself with a cup of tea, saving the beers until you have stopped for the day!
Progressing to opposite end of the spring, i.e. shackle end: Hacksaw out old rubber bushes ensuring not to cut into spring eye.  Clean bore of spring eye and paint with hammerite. Leave to dry (good idea to do this to both ends). When paint is dry soak new bushes in warm water, apply Fairy Liquid to bore of spring eye and twist bush into place. Do NOT expect bush to slide in with compression only as rubber swells under load and makes life more difficult (bloody impossible in fact).
Reinstall spring to vehicle and move on to next corner of the car using all safety procedures anyone could ever think of.
P.S. Dont set fire to the bloody Jeep!
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Lornaben on November 25, 2011, 11:00:52 PM
I wound mine in using my vice. Worked a treat  :003:

If you go that route, make sure you use some soft jaws  :icon_winkle:
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Dave69 on November 26, 2011, 10:08:04 AM
when the bushes have been fitted only full tighten the bolts when the heep is back on four wheels. give the heep a rock from sise to side to allow everything to settle.

if you tighten the bolts before dropp the heep onto the wheels there is a chance of preloading the bush in a shear condition which can result in premature failure of the rubber
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 26, 2011, 10:14:35 AM
cheers dood, so handy tips  :greggmo:
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Bubba on November 26, 2011, 10:53:11 AM
its all very low tech really but doing it for the first time may seem hard work.......................... something you will find as a new and refreshing change
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Bulldog67 on November 26, 2011, 12:28:10 PM
Hard work sucks, tis v boring and unatural :015:
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: scrw on November 26, 2011, 12:39:22 PM
have to say if you have just installed Crown bushes expect to do them again soon!  :011:
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: IrishCJ6 on November 29, 2011, 08:53:09 AM
I soaked mine in a 50:50 mix of ATF/Acetone overnight, then using a 10mm threaded rod, two BFO (big fuck off)washers and a socket that fitted (14mm 1/2" drive) I pulled them out, I then removed the socket to reinstall them, worked a treat.
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Bulldog67 on December 01, 2011, 09:36:44 PM
we did the thinners/atf mix on the bolts and they certainly came off easier than i imagined they would  :icon_super:

and even better is the rear bushed have all been done (and i got away with doin none of them :003: ) so its half way there

did have to get some custom u bolts made tho by a firm in the midlands
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Bulldog67 on December 03, 2011, 06:45:13 PM
this has turned out an 'interesting' venture, turns out the 4" lift is actually a 6-7" lift at the back and a 2-3" lift on the front, which was givin a pretty funky drag truck look, but after much head scratching and viewing of Leviathans photos my bro twigged that the front is actually SOA

so the mild 4" lift is turnin into summink fuckin monstrous, roof is sittin at around 6'5"-6'6"  :greggmo:

cant wait to see Mrs BD's face when i introduce her to the winter family truck and her winter ride to to work :003:
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Bubba on December 03, 2011, 06:50:09 PM
horrid to drive too
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Bulldog67 on December 03, 2011, 06:53:32 PM
not what was planned, and then some, but in for a penny in for a pound ............

there is always next year to make some alterations

that bein said pretty much everyone on ifsja that has done a 6" lift and then gone SOA says they wish they hadnt wasted their time doin the 6" first
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Panic mechanic! on December 03, 2011, 06:56:51 PM
going to spend more time standing at the side of the road than a picket line.......... :hysterical:.... only joking but had to be said!
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Bulldog67 on December 03, 2011, 07:01:24 PM
I think actually that you have to take note dood that unlike some tech experts on here, my truck is actually having something done to it rather than just bein washed with hot air: knowledge is only any good if its actually used for a purpose.

better to be active and stupid than dormant and clever

that being said, im prepared to bow to your googling skills, so please share why its going to shifting towards the life cycle of one of yours  :017:
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Panic mechanic! on December 03, 2011, 07:05:12 PM
I drive one of my jeeps everyday,if thats what you are asking.
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Bulldog67 on December 03, 2011, 07:12:05 PM
TBH i dont know what the fuck im asking, i get worn down with the doom and gloom on here with everything that i dont know what is just fun or opinion  :die:
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Dutch on December 03, 2011, 08:52:51 PM
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 :hysterical:
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Bulldog67 on December 03, 2011, 10:11:04 PM
 :hysterical: that is so me tonight :hysterical:
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Lornaben on December 03, 2011, 10:21:43 PM
 :imwitstupid:

I've had a fecked off feeelin for days that I just cant shift  :011:

I'm currently tryin to drown it with beer  :icon_jook:

 :003:
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Bishops Finger on December 03, 2011, 11:46:24 PM
Its the lack of snow boys n girls...just think pigs in blankets and buttered sprouts with goose fat roast taters....or is that non pc and cause for an argument........
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Lornaben on December 04, 2011, 12:05:18 AM
sprouts  :icon_eek:

mumble mumble  :078:
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Bubba on December 04, 2011, 12:06:07 AM
blurgh
Title: Re: Suspension bushes - getting them out - getting them in?
Post by: Bishops Finger on December 04, 2011, 12:14:34 AM
Bunch of commies :hysterical: :hysterical: