Birty Dastards Jeep Club
Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: MOCAJ on January 04, 2012, 09:35:49 PM
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anybody running one, i like the sound of it alot
input appreciated :icon_biggrin:
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Claytons TJ, is running one.
You need the engine spacer blocks to level it all up though. As the viscous fan can hit the Radiator cowling under some driving conditions. Found this out after a few wheeling sessions.
By pushing the GB/Transfer case up. The angle of the engine changes and closes the clearance gap, between viscous and Radiator cowling.
One of the best Mods you can do imho.
That and removal of the saggy arse fuel tank :icon_winkle:
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$500 tho Steve!!!
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MJS Could make them :003:
$500 worth every cent.
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Ive just orderd the Rough Country one! £259.95 deliverd but you MUST have a 1.25" Minimum body lift and you also need a 1" motor mount lift! Dave at Llama said he has only imported 1 other apart from mine so you would be in a very small and exclusive group! :icon_winkle: LOL
Just need to find how to lift the tank without buying a new tank guard from the states!
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Just need to find how to lift the tank without buying a new tank guard from the states!
Be carefull the tank guard is different on 2003->
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Having made mine and done the weldy weldy bit I can now say that it would be possible to do without welding................
4 mm sheet and square section for bracing cos it will bend without (how do I know???) and lots of 1/2 inch bolts of an 8.8 spec.
All you need is a socket set and a disc cutter to get the sheet to size..................... Cost about £50 :icon_super:
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i already have a 1" body lift and 1" raised engine mounts so maybe i could make my own, mmmmm
and i already have the tank guard that raises it all up 1"
mmmmm :icon_biggrin:
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i have a flat belly
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i have a flat belly
i did notice how slim you looked at the last pub meet :icon_winkle:
i think i have found my summer project and its not taking you to weightwatchers kev :icon_biggrin:
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Ive just orderd the Rough Country one
can i ask a big favour, when this arrives can you take photos and most importantly measure up this when it arrives, i can use it for cloning purposes :icon_biggrin:
or i could come and have a look, where are you ?
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i have a flat belly
looks like a sticky 'l' key there m8
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Ive just orderd the Rough Country one
can i ask a big favour, when this arrives can you take photos and most importantly measure up this when it arrives, i can use it for cloning purposes :icon_biggrin:
or i could come and have a look, where are you ?
You are more than welcome to come have a looky, Im in Kent, about 2 miles from Brands Hatch.
Il certainly let you know when it arrives, I can take a pic or 3 and will take as many measurements as you need if you are too far away to come visit! :icon_sad: Dave @ Llama said Rough Country will be shipping his pallets out over the weekend with any luck so I should have it withing the next 10-14 days! A Woo Hoo!! :icon_super:
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kents a long way from me dood, i am in Redditch, just south of Birmingham so yep, pics and lots of measurements please :greggmo:
thanks for any help :icon_biggrin:
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Ive got the teraflex steve if you need to compare it with anything, great mod as Wartog says but I reckon if youve got the gear and the skills you could make one with even more clearance..
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I memory serves me Correct? If you go totally flat, there isnt any room for the standard cat.
The gearbox linkages also become an issue too.
But nothing that cant be worked out.
On a safety note! The plate support the driveline. So dont just undo the bolts that hold the original on, with out supporting :icon_eek:
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will have to have a lie under your truck next time we meet (@ ribbo- j33p i hope)
i have access to steel, laser cutting, can get welding done and powder coating :greggmo:
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cat and linkage problems noted mark :greggmo:
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cat and linkage problems noted mark :greggmo:
Just added a safety note to my last post. Very important one :icon_winkle:
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i always stick the trolley jack under mate :icon_winkle:
i do try to clean out the skid after each off road adventure
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In brief but ask me more if ya want.....
Support transfer case with axle stand.
Remove skid plate and draw round and mark the 6 holes and the trans mount holes. Job half done
cut to fit and also go for 6mm that's what I used.(went and had a measure :jpshakehead:)
I ran exhaust down left side (but had room) as no cat needed(age).
1" body lift and 1" engine lift is all I have. Should save you 3" or like going up 6" in tyre size :icon_biggrin:
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Hi
I'm in Maidstone
would like to see this - when it arrives
quite willing to lend a hand
desk jockey as a job so useless at spanners but good at tea making and know the difference between mm and inch sockets
Tim
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:icon_eek: whereabouts in Maidstone dood? I too reside in that very warm part of the country :greggmo:
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I'm in Maidstone
useless at spanners but good at tea making
Hmmm... anybody notice there's a trend developing here :017:
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its evolution dood, we have gone from nosebolt & greggmo to monkeys with sticks to birtys to homo sapiens to those that have the intellectual prowess to reside in the south of the country
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bunch of spanner polishers.......
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is Dutch calling me trendy woohoo thats this first time i've ever been trendy
Just of loose road behind LLoyds Bank
Tim
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hah, my local bank, im just up the road nr linton crossroads
have you had a look at tkorc (the kent off road club)?
http://thekentoffroadclub.proboards.com (http://thekentoffroadclub.proboards.com)
Not a Jeep site but they organise a fair few local laning trips. You will need to sign up before bein allowed in tho
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Or try......
www.invicta4x4.co.uk (http://www.invicta4x4.co.uk)
or
www.muddynuts.co.uk (http://www.muddynuts.co.uk)
Both local and FREE!, fair bit of action going on in the Invicta forum,
The Muddy Nuts forum is mine and will hopefull expand over the comming months/years to become a local contender!
I will let everyone know when the bits arrive for any measurements/photos or come over and have a look see! LOL
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:eusa_doh:
sorry dood, shouldnt have forgot muddynutz
signed up for invicta but couldnt find a laning section?
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was under the red truck today and had a good look at the factory skid, can see problem with cat if going flat skid, will need mods to get it higher
apart from that , as long as raising the transmission doesn't cause vibes, looks simples :greggmo:
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has the flat skid arrived bellyman ?
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where does one get a 1" bodylift from, or is it more hockey pucks?
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Nice ones dont use plastic ................. Get one from MORE 'Mountain off road' they use alloy 1" pucks and black poly body mount lit and new hardware. Also do 1" engine mounts..................
Or you can piece your own together I have done both routes and there ain't much diff in price .just hastle and trips out............ So would go with MORE if I did it again.
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where does one get a 1" bodylift from, or is it more hockey pucks?
Bollox, I meant engine lift, I already have a body lift :greggmo:
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They do the engine mount lifts.............they is the bollix..................I have one on the '1 Ton' allows better angle of dangle..........................
But if you have after market air intake/ Kand N stuff/ it will rub on underside of hood................ tis why I have dood vent/scoop thingy.
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snorkle not sorted yet, another thing to do before March
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Having a sort of all my 'knee jerk' must haves on my 'bookmarks' and came across this.......
Transfer case brake kit bits.......
http://www.4xshaft.com/Brake_Rotor_Kit.html (http://www.4xshaft.com/Brake_Rotor_Kit.html)
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Have a Tom Woods E-Brake on the Mafia...
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Having a sort of all my 'knee jerk' must haves on my 'bookmarks' and came across this.......
Transfer case brake kit bits.......
http://www.4xshaft.com/Brake_Rotor_Kit.html (http://www.4xshaft.com/Brake_Rotor_Kit.html)
Me thinks you need to email me all your bookmarks :003:
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its evolution dood, we have gone from nosebolt & greggmo to monkeys with sticks to birtys to homo sapiens to those that have the intellectual prowess to reside in the south of the country
remember someone asking me somethin about welding somethin or did i dream that when i was doin my latest cave painting you cheaky southern twat? :hysterical:
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cant be denied, you have left poor old nosebolt behind :rotflmao:
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be very carefull as he is a very powerful wizard of the internerd and he can make you dumb with the push of a button. :greggmo:
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so, back to flat skid, has the terraflex one arrived bellyman
was under the truck yesterday and seems load of room to gain :greggmo:
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Indeed back to the flat skid......................
I did one on the 1 Ton but........................ its a big heavy sheet of 6mm and er weighs a lot..................
Gonna redo .............. cant find the link but a few on Pirate tend to use builders bushes............... Basically the bushes similar to your front rear shackle bushes...................... welded to the frame and tube to brace across. Then you can use very thin sacrificial alloy plastic breadboard stuff (that has a techy name)............job done.................
Or in my case waiting to be done. :icon_twisted:
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interesting, i know peters buggy has plastic under for a skid :greggmo:
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I think i might have some of that nylon sheet knocking around. I got some to make rear corner armour for Barbie but never got round to it.
I can't promise it's still there, but I'll take a look at the weekend.
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interesting, i know peters buggy has plastic under for a skid :greggmo:
Indeed it's a slab of chopping board - yeah as in kitchen!!!
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cheap?
probably not
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interesting, i know peters buggy has plastic under for a skid :greggmo:
Indeed it's a slab of chopping board - yeah as in kitchen!!!
from plastics plus if i remember, how thick Peter ? :greggmo:
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interesting, i know peters buggy has plastic under for a skid :greggmo:
Indeed it's a slab of chopping board - yeah as in kitchen!!!
from plastics plus if i remember, how thick Peter ? :greggmo:
Sorry can't remember (must be age thing) need to go the Buggy this week it's in the warehouse 10mins from the office - let me confirm then.
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Don't worry IOM.......... finished the Merlot and it suddenly came to me .............. :icon_biggrin:
http://www.directplasticsonline.co.uk/PTFE_Sheet.html (http://www.directplasticsonline.co.uk/PTFE_Sheet.html)
PTFE super slippy..........
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so you are tellin me that a piece of sheat steel to fit the space where the skid is costs how much :icon_eek: are you fuckin mad? i can get armour plated for about twenty quid and all ya gotta do is put the holese in place. hell i can even charge ya 200 quid and cut a w in it if it would make ya feel like ya had a bargain. just cos it says warn or rock fuckin road or some shit on it dont make it special ya know. give me your money and i will sort ya one steve. i work in one of the uk's biggest metal stock holders. :banghead:
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and then there's what they charge for fuel tank armour :hysterical: :hysterical:
owning a disc cutter and metal glue has opened a few doors in the last two years :icon_super:
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its also called delrin, http://www2.dupont.com/Plastics/en_US/Products/Delrin/Delrin.html (http://www2.dupont.com/Plastics/en_US/Products/Delrin/Delrin.html) marine industry uses it alot for bearing surfaces etc, inside winches, rudderstocks :sign0023: :greggmo:
http://www.theplasticshop.co.uk/delrin-sheet-10mm-12mm-16mm-20mm-25mm-30mm-40mm-50mm-thick-1448-0.html (http://www.theplasticshop.co.uk/delrin-sheet-10mm-12mm-16mm-20mm-25mm-30mm-40mm-50mm-thick-1448-0.html)
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so, back to flat skid, has the terraflex one arrived bellyman
was under the truck yesterday and seems load of room to gain :greggmo:
Yup it arrived! and was fitted before I even had time to take some pics whilst it was off, LOL.
Its a Rough Country item and has to be said its really good quality! the only down side is that it is now only fixed in place with 2 bolts either side instead of the 3 on the original jobbie!
we have gained at least 2" of clearance! More like 3" to be honest. Bit of a faf to fit it as the chassis rails squeezed in when the old one was removed so they had to be jacked apart 5mm to get the holes to line up.
If anyone wants any pics let me know and il take some and post em up!
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pics please mate before you get it caked in mud :icon_winkle:
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An effective option if your going down th UHMW route:
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UHMW:
http://www.plasticstockist.com/Polyethylene-Plastic/Black-Ultra-High-Molecular-Weight-Polyethylene-Sheet.aspx (http://www.plasticstockist.com/Polyethylene-Plastic/Black-Ultra-High-Molecular-Weight-Polyethylene-Sheet.aspx)
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bugger..............
gonna have to redo mine now mr Warthog :jpshakehead: :icon_twisted:
Seriously..looks like a good answer. does it flex tho?
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how fecking much Mark!!!!
An effective option if your going down th UHMW route:
(https://birtydastards.com/frm/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv11%2FTenbulls%2Fniceskid.jpg&hash=0b7c53aa8d4f738a7e929bef4a02a68e56c89ff6)
UHMW:
http://www.plasticstockist.com/Polyethylene-Plastic/Black-Ultra-High-Molecular-Weight-Polyethylene-Sheet.aspx (http://www.plasticstockist.com/Polyethylene-Plastic/Black-Ultra-High-Molecular-Weight-Polyethylene-Sheet.aspx)
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how fecking much Mark!!!!
"A mere drop in the Ocean for a man of your Kalibre :003:"
Wood chopping boards are cheap though....Ermmm Maybe a "woody" skid plate would suffice. :icon_biggrin:
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bugger..............
gonna have to redo mine now mr Warthog :jpshakehead: :icon_twisted:
Seriously..looks like a good answer. does it flex tho?
Polybush mounts maybe a thought?
This design could even be a bolt together kit......££$$££??
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Wood chopping boards are cheap though....Ermmm Maybe a "woody" skid plate would suffice. :icon_biggrin:
works for F1
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just a quick question here out of curiousity, with the reduced clearance does the floor of the jeep etc get any hotter from the exhaust?
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I reckon mine does, Ive noticed it before but it also dries out quicker.. :icon_biggrin:
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:iagree:
Try to keep the heatsheild and an air gap if possible.
A smaller cat was an option on Asylums. Merlin Motorsport Castle Coombe, do good options.
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also bellyman, have you had to change the exhaust or raise it up, specifically around the cat area ???
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Virtually every time i get stuck its this bash plate that stops me
Loved to see the pictures of this fitted anf if poss in real life
Fellow Kent Tj owner - i am on suggested forums
Tim
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As promised, here are some pics of the most recent TJ mod! The Rough Country Transmision Skid lift (Tummy Tuck)
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No modifications were needed for the exhaust, you can see just how much room there is around the cat in pic 5, there seems to be plenty above the cat and exhaust as well so the floor wont be melting anytime soon! LOL.
The Rough Country skid is only fixed in place with 2 of the 3 original bolts on each side, i guess its to keep the weight and cost down as boy is this thing well made and heavy!
We had a little issue with the chassis rails squeezing in a bit once the old gaurd was removed but this was quickly dealt with bu spreading them back out 5mm or so with a bottle jack and a peice of 6x2!
If anyone wants any specific shots or any measurements taken please let me know and il do my bestest for you!!
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Looks great and there's more gaps to let the crap out when froading but will it do a better job than the standard one In protecting the vital bits? Only time will tell I suppose.
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having looked long and hard at the rough country one i think an extra inch or so could be gained, also dont like the way it leaves the downstream oxy sensor exposed
going to have a look at a terraflex one fitted in a few weeks at an event so will go from there
the tube one looks nice and high but needs covering with a flat sheet so you can slide over stuff
the project continues :greggmo:
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Tis worth a perv on Pirate to see what the tube versions can offer...........................
poly bush mounted isolation and lack of weight and as large or small as you want em.....
but as you say needs covering wiv da breadboard