Birty Dastards Jeep Club
Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Nosebolt on March 05, 2012, 05:12:12 PM
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is this a serviceable item or is it sealed and just replace when it goes tits up?
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lighthouse do seal kits
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they do steering box kits but not seen pump kits .
also been looking and from what I can tell the Renault Clio Mk1 1.4 uses the same pump but with a different pulley, can anyone confirm this? if so they are only about £15 from the breakers so might be worth investigating
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had pump kits from them will be a Eaton pump most car manufactures have used them over the years
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mine had the standard gm steering pump, think stateside tuning might do the rebuild kit.
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I have the standard 151 pump on mine and got a seal kit from lighthouse but either it was too far gone or there was a problem as it was exactly the same again within a month
Aren't cj steering pumps the same or similar as the boxes inter swap with the cj ?
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the same basic pump is used on loads of yank motors, just with different pulleys, but they seem to want $150+ for em, if it works out the clio unit is the same then it will be a £15 breakers yard deal .
my only concern with fitting a seal kit is the unit does not leak and still looks like it circulates fluid but does not assist the steering recon it will be more than a damaged seal
also looks like the 151 (iron duke) uses the same as the 258 and 304/360 but the 150 uses a different pump, not that it affects my situation just an observation
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looks the same just change thhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Renault-Clio-MK1-1-4-RT-90-1998-Power-Steering-Pump-/170668535643?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27bca32f5be pully
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Bruce, Are you needing this for your 2.5, 4 cyl?
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its Dans but yea, got his truck back home from storage where it's been since Cheapfest and it has no breaks no steering assist and only just runs :banghead: still got 2 weeks to get it sorted :icon_eek:
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I've got one here off the 2.5 I broke complete with brackets. Aint got a clue if its any good though, never had it spinning! :102:
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do you know if it was the 150 AMC engine or the 151 GM (iron duke) engine? cos think they had slightly different pumps
the 151 was a crossflow (inlet one side, exhaust on the other side) and the 150 had both on the same side
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151 mate, inlet & exhaust opposite. I've still got the engine & 4sp box here.
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cool what you need for it?
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dunno mate, was gonna keep as spare for the 4.2 but not sure if it would fit anyway.
Its gonna be sold as seen cos I aint seen it working & it will be pricey to post.
Im travelling to Portsmouth & back (tomorrow night back Friday Morning) via M40, A34, M3, M27 if thats any good?
Otherwise I'll have to get a post quote on Monday.
Make me an offer? :icon_biggrin:
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it will fit the 4.2 using the 4.2 bracket, thanks for the offer but sort of wana see it the clio unit will work cos if it does it will make for a cheap supply for anyone else who needs one :icon_winkle:
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No worries bud, let me know if you get stuck, dont worry it will be cheap, only a few beer or fag tokens required!
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well here is a result, the clio power steering pump is the same, could be used as is with the supplied reservoir but that will tilt it over by 15 % or so, so the plan is to pull the pump out of the reservoir and put it in the original CJ reservoir.
so for future reference instead of $160 plus tax and duty, get a Renault clio mk1 1.4 8 valve pump (and looks like it's only this model that has the right unit) for £16 delivered from the bay
we also gave the engine a once over, new plugs done the timing etc and now starts and runs loads better, still got a flat spot but will live with it for now and return to it if time allows.
all in all a good day
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I wasn't aware the 151 had anything other than a flat spot. startin at 0-4000rpm
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well here is a result, the clio power steering pump is the same, could be used as is with the supplied reservoir but that will tilt it over by 15 % or so, so the plan is to pull the pump out of the reservoir and put it in the original CJ reservoir.
so for future reference instead of $160 plus tax and duty, get a Renault clio mk1 1.4 8 valve pump (and looks like it's only this model that has the right unit) for £16 delivered from the bay
we also gave the engine a once over, new plugs done the timing etc and now starts and runs loads better, still got a flat spot but will live with it for now and return to it if time allows.
all in all a good day
crackin detective work dood :greggmo:
shame we cant keep that for future reference as this will get lost eventually - altho i suppose someone will retain the knowledge (not me)
now we need a cheap V8 option :003:
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same pump m8 :003:
only the AMC 150ci used a different pump, from 151 to 401 are the same
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now we need a cheap V8 option :003:
I believe i have that option to return to you :icon_winkle:
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:icon_super: :icon_super: 16 quid and 2 and a bit hours and yella has working power steering for the fist time :icon_super: :icon_super:
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Good stuff mate.
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I dont suppose these would work on a 1979 cj7 258. I have manual steering and its a bitch even around town. Would like to get a power steering pump and PS gearbox to convert. i believe they are like gold dust for a RHD.
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i have just got a cherokee box for mine as same mounts and need modified steering shaft but got that with the box.
not fitted yet but apparently plenty on here have done the same conversion
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pump will work but you will need a cj rhd box
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doesn't warrant a new thread so will tag in on here, but Yella is now ready for Breakout, Dan assembled one side of the brakes himself (with supervision)
engine ✓
steering ✓
brakes ✓
single cab ✓
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funky cab dood :greggmo:
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I converted my CJ6 from manual to power steering fairly easily. I took the steering box out of a 96 Cherokee RHD, bolts directly to the manual bracket. You have to cut a notch out of the front crossmember to allow the hoses to exit (same as LHS). I took the steering shaft as well as the hoses. I brought a pump off BD and made up my own hoses using the ends going to the box and new fitting to the resevoir. I made up my own steering shaft by using the UJ's from each vehicle so that it suited and spliced them together with a compression shaft from a collapsible steering shaft.