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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Anonymous on January 26, 2006, 08:18:48 AM

Title: HELP
Post by: Anonymous on January 26, 2006, 08:18:48 AM
Jeep didn't wanna start this morning, all lights on dash come on (didn't go dim when turning key), but nothing happened when turning the key.

Locked it & un-locked it a few times still nothing, wiggled the selector on the autobox to get it out of park position (this didn't move as the key wasn't in at the time) dont actually know why I did this on reflection but heh.

Tried it again for about the 6th attempt & she fired up straight away as usual  :cry:
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Post by: Mike Pavelin on January 26, 2006, 08:45:35 AM
Starter solenoid? Starter relay?
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Post by: king cj on January 26, 2006, 08:56:43 AM
go under the bonnet and pull the relays out and put them back in (i think its the second one) that worked for a mate of mine.
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Post by: Anonymous on January 26, 2006, 09:12:46 AM
Sounds starter related Gaz
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Post by: Anonymous on January 26, 2006, 09:59:56 AM
So it would seem Stew, cheers chaps, will look into those relays.

The only thing I was worried about was crank position sensor type thingies as I would have expected a clicking or the dash lights dimming if it were the starter.

Now wheres me manual  :lol:
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Post by: Anonymous on January 26, 2006, 10:08:16 AM
Some auto's only start in P or N, and some only with the brake pedal (Never having had a Jeep auto, I don't know them) depressed, of course, both these have sensors so if you played with the auto stick, it may have been it wasn't quite in P properly, or a dodgy sensor down there.

Worth checking first.....
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Post by: Anonymous on January 26, 2006, 10:24:49 AM
Gaz, whatever you need, I have probably got a spare one.....just shout mate!!
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Post by: Anonymous on January 26, 2006, 11:00:30 AM
Cheers matey, long time no speaky, trust you & Em are ok.

Found me box of relays piece o cake, just spoke to Westway parts dept where I get discount from & need some service items anyway.

They suggested that there is a park/neutral switch which may be dodgy.
Any thoughts welcome.

Waiting for some prices, prob gonna change the relay to be on the safe side, seems to be a few the same part number at first glance, so be good to have as a spare.  

It just started fine, so fingers crossed.
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Post by: Anonymous on January 26, 2006, 11:27:13 AM
Quote from: "EvilEd"
it may have been it wasn't quite in P properly, or a dodgy sensor down there.

Worth checking first.....


*Bows*

See, no one listens to me :)
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Post by: Anonymous on January 26, 2006, 12:40:46 PM
Oh yes I did, thats why I asked the man  :wink:
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Post by: Mike Pavelin on January 26, 2006, 04:27:36 PM
Swap it  for the horn relay and see what happens.
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Post by: Anonymous on January 26, 2006, 05:06:50 PM
Cheers doctor Mike.

Started & stopped it a few times at lunchtime & all worked fine (touch wood)  :lol:

If it plays up again I will swap em about.

If it still does it, I'll jiggle the shift lever & hope that sorts it. Could that be the cause or do you think it was pure fluke ?
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Post by: daggie on January 26, 2006, 06:34:22 PM
Neutral safety switch,
do your reversing lights work?
 :wink:
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Post by: Anonymous on January 26, 2006, 10:47:08 PM
Funny you should say that Daggie because every now & then they dont  :wink:

Something I have only noticed in the wintertime being dark going to & from work.

Think they are working 9 out 10 times though, will pay more attention.

Where be this neutral safety switch of which you speak o wise one ??
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Post by: Mike Pavelin on January 27, 2006, 08:42:11 AM
If you're talking XJ, it's incorporated in the transmission selector switch assembly on the side of the transmission. It's a big thing, you can't miss it.
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Post by: Anonymous on January 27, 2006, 10:11:26 AM
Cheers doc  :wink: do you agree with Daggie that could be a possible cause ?
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Post by: daggie on January 27, 2006, 03:44:58 PM
was on ours
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Post by: Mike Pavelin on January 27, 2006, 07:24:08 PM
Probably if you have to wiggle the shifter to make it start.
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Post by: Anonymous on January 28, 2006, 12:00:41 AM
Thanks again guys, much appreciated  :lol:
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Post by: Anonymous on January 29, 2006, 12:59:29 PM
OK, would I be right in presuming this switch either fits underneath at the base of the selector or on the outside of the gearbox ?

And, are mk1 XJ's & mk2 (such as mine) switches interchangeable i.e. is there any difference that would stop me fitting an earlier one ?

Cheers folks  :wink:
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Post by: Anonymous on January 30, 2006, 09:13:26 PM
What my mechanically challenged chum wants to know is "will the one off KD's '95 breaker fit?"

Can someone answer this as i have a customer waiting if it wont fit...... :twisted:
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Post by: Anonymous on January 30, 2006, 10:23:55 PM
Eloquently put my liege  :wink:
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Post by: Anonymous on January 31, 2006, 09:13:15 PM
Blackie, spoke to a dealer today matey & sadly your '95 one has a different plug on the end so feel free to sell to your customer matey  :roll:   :lol:
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Post by: Anonymous on January 31, 2006, 09:44:30 PM
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