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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: prophead on January 31, 2006, 01:10:30 PM

Title: More Problems
Post by: prophead on January 31, 2006, 01:10:30 PM
I have just had my 96 4.0l GC serviced and they said i need a CV boot which they said involves alot of work on a jeep and would be £80 and also all my engine and gearbox seals are leaking which involes lifting everything out and this would be £350.

Does this sound right or are they trying to rip me off? I have always had faith in this garage but others have told me things which give me cause for concern.

Regards

Mike
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Post by: Anonymous on January 31, 2006, 01:34:32 PM
CV boot 1-2 hours labour? £80 seems acceptable

Seals - everything out seems a tad odd, I'm sure others will be along to offer better advice soon
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Post by: chrisjones on January 31, 2006, 01:37:06 PM
Are you sure that's what they said? :?

I'm only asking cos' a 96 Grand don't have any CV joints let alone boots for them. :shock:

and as for all of your seals leaking!!!  That's either bull or you're one unlucky guy.

I'd take it back to them and ask them to show you this CV boot that needs replacing and all those leaks, and then find another garage.

Just a thought, are you loosing engine and transmission fluids??
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Post by: chrisjones on January 31, 2006, 01:39:45 PM
Quote from: "Stew"
CV boot 1-2 hours labour? £80 seems acceptable

Seals - everything out seems a tad odd, I'm sure others will be along to offer better advice soon


OK I stand corrected,  where are the CV boots on a Jeep cos I've just had a look, and can't see any on mine?
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Post by: Anonymous on January 31, 2006, 01:41:19 PM
Er I stand corrected Mr Jones Think you're right in what you say
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Post by: chrisjones on January 31, 2006, 01:43:34 PM
Thought i was going mad there for a min. :lol:
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Post by: Mike Pavelin on January 31, 2006, 01:46:38 PM
Petrol ones had CVs, doesels had regular Spicer joints.
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Post by: prophead on January 31, 2006, 02:00:25 PM
Hi

I just looked under my car and there does seem to be a rubber walnut whip shaped object just behind the wheel which is leaking grease, i presume this is what they meant.

Also i do have an oil drip but it is nothing major and the level doesnt seem to go down especially fast.
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Post by: Mike Pavelin on January 31, 2006, 04:21:19 PM
You should be able to do a CV gaiter on one of those in about an hour.
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Post by: chrisjones on January 31, 2006, 06:04:55 PM
Quote from: "Mike Pavelin"
Petrol ones had CVs, doesels had regular Spicer joints.


I never knew that, sorry Stew. :shock:
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Post by: Anonymous on January 31, 2006, 09:41:59 PM
No Chris I had brain fade when I posted mate :shock:  :rolleyes:
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Post by: prophead on March 01, 2006, 02:35:57 PM
So i took it in for the CV joint doing.

The garage has just rung saying they dont know how to do it without breaking the ball joint and cant replace it.

Do i need to take it to a dealer for this?

Regards

Mike
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Post by: Anonymous on March 01, 2006, 03:07:02 PM
Someone better will be along shortly, but isn't splitting balljoints what a "Ball Joint Splitter" is for?

Even I have one of them (Used it to press the old wheel studs out when I changed them for extended ones :) )

If I remember right from the old Maestro, on there you split the top joint and could pull the hub forward enough to get the shaft out. (Obviously undoing the 'kin huge nut in the middle of the wheel first :) )

Dunno about on a Jeep...
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Post by: chrisjones on March 01, 2006, 03:53:00 PM
I'm probably wrong but......

The hub assembly is bolted to the carrier with three bolts.  i'd have thought that if you removed this you could do the job without splitting any ball joints.

Like I say, probably wrong, but worth a look.
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Post by: prophead on March 01, 2006, 03:57:49 PM
From what i can gather the problem is that they cannot undo a bolt to remove the hub. :?
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Post by: prophead on March 01, 2006, 04:01:13 PM
Jeep Dealer in Leeds quoted £150 (1 Hours work)

Jeep Dealer in Wakefield £250 (2 Hours Work) (£60 for part)

The problem is this is for my MOT which ran out yesterday, as well as my tax so i need it doing.  :cry:
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Post by: Mike Pavelin on March 01, 2006, 04:40:49 PM
Easy Job.
Wheel off (5 nuts 3/4")
Brake caliper off (2 bolts, 13mm)
Brake disc off (mallet, soft)
Hub/shaft assembly out (3 bolts, 13mm spline/double hex socket)
Take off old boot
Grease and fit new one
Put it all back.

No ball joints involved.
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Post by: prophead on March 01, 2006, 06:18:01 PM
Hi

Ive just picked up my car and had it explained to me.

Basically they could not get the three hub bolts out and were worried they would break them if they forced it any harder. This means i cannot get my MOT until it is done but i dont know how to get it done. The garage said i could try and get a CV boot that is in 2 halves and is glued together but they did not know where to get them.

Does anyone know where i could get one of these and what size i would need.

Ive just spen £600 in total to get my car through the MOT and now i still have no certificate or tax :(
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Post by: Mike Pavelin on March 01, 2006, 06:36:03 PM
Never had a problem with these bolts and have done dozens of times. You just have to make sure you use a socket that fits properly so you don't round the heads off. They can be FT, but with the right tools and a bit of patience they aways come out. Worst ways, if you do break one, once the hub is out it shouldn't be too bad to sort out anyway.
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Post by: MK1 on March 01, 2006, 06:44:24 PM
The universal fit gaiters that need to be glued are total crap.

They never fit right and always come off. Only use one if you have to.
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Post by: MOCAJ on March 01, 2006, 06:51:42 PM
Get yourself some of the sockets for an impact wrench, these have a full hexagon shape so they don't just drive on the corners and are pretty hard. Then a long breaker bar and give them some shit.  8)