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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Dutch on April 18, 2012, 10:18:46 AM

Title: Engine oil & coolants general question
Post by: Dutch on April 18, 2012, 10:18:46 AM
A boat is in the process of checking out and that always means that interesting bits get left behind, surplus to requirements.

Engine oil : several 20 ltr drums of Shell Rimula 3 (15W40). Its says for heavy duty diesel engines.  Can you use this in a petrol engine.
                and dont go duhhhhh diesel...... I thought that oils are of such a good standard today that it does not really matter ?

Several cans of coolant : 1 x 20 ltr. pre-mixed CAT - 2 x 5 ltr. John Deere cool guard,  2x 20 ltr. Deutz coolant.

20 ltr. tub of Grease.

I would share the wealth among birties but postage will probably make this not viable.

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Title: Re: Engine oil & coolants general question
Post by: Dutch on April 18, 2012, 01:36:17 PM
Oil for differentials

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Of any use in the CJ ?
Title: Re: Engine oil & coolants general question
Post by: Warthog on April 18, 2012, 01:46:11 PM
Diesel oils are useable in petrol engines, but if signs of low temperature sludge formation are seen, then switch back.

Petrol engine oils are not suitable for diesel engines in the long term because of the lack of detergency/dispersancy predominant in a diesel, and also a lack of high temp sludge format.

Title: Re: Engine oil & coolants general question
Post by: Dutch on April 18, 2012, 08:59:11 PM
Bump.......due to a phat phingered Dawgie  :icon_winkle:

 
Title: Re: Engine oil & coolants general question
Post by: Dave69 on April 19, 2012, 09:40:25 PM
Diesel oils are useable in petrol engines, but if signs of low temperature sludge formation are seen, then switch back.

Petrol engine oils are not suitable for diesel engines in the long term because of the lack of detergency/dispersancy predominant in a diesel, and also a lack of high temp sludge format.



modern petrol oils do have aggressive detergants. stick some in an old engine which has been run on mineral oil and over time watch the oil leaks starting to appear.

10w40 oil is a std lubricant for all normal engines, the modern cars run 5w (thinner) oil due to the finer tolerances on the oil galleries. So the 15w is a thicker oil which should be ok for the jeep but there might be a risk of top end wear if used onver time due to the delay in lubrication as the oil pump tries the ush the thicker oil around the system. once warm it shouldn't be an issue.

dont panic and decline the use, watch the oil pressure gauge when you start the engine and see where it spikes and settles to then swap to the 15w and repeat. depending on the sclaing of your gauge there might be a slight increase in the reading.

On old engines tbh it's not a big concern as the choice of grade would have been the 10w and 15w and the temperature derrivatives
Title: Re: Engine oil & coolants general question
Post by: bgbazz on April 21, 2012, 05:47:09 AM
What you gunna do with that Spirax axle oil mate?
Title: Re: Engine oil & coolants general question
Post by: Dutch on April 21, 2012, 10:18:27 AM
What you gunna do with that Spirax axle oil mate?

Dunno  :017: 

Coming back to my original question :

Diesel engine oil is not fit for purpose so will let that one slip.
Coolant is up for grabs (I've kept the ready to use John Deere 2 x 5 ltr. ready to use pre-mix)

So...... Can I use that axle-oil in my diffs ? or do I need additives ?

Title: Re: Engine oil & coolants general question
Post by: gazjeep on April 22, 2012, 11:02:38 PM
Are they open diffs ? if so not a problem.

Only need addatives in LSD diffs I believe  :icon_winkle:
Title: Re: Engine oil & coolants general question
Post by: Dutch on April 23, 2012, 07:09:09 AM
Are they open diffs ? if so not a problem.

Only need addatives in LSD diffs I believe  :icon_winkle:

Calling Bubba  :icon_biggrin: