Birty Dastards Jeep Club
Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Bulldog67 on May 21, 2012, 07:12:29 PM
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Good evening, just been out in the Molotov, proper long run, first one since the new performer intake, hei dizzy, and 670 holley carb, and its has an issue.
I initially thought it was to do with the choke as I had only done short runs, but it appears not. Every time I am remotely aggressive with the loud pedal from a standing start it cuts out, the only way I can move off is to gentle feather it until 5-10 mph and then I can give it some welly. So what gives there? What needs tweaking?
I dont know if it is related but if im free wheeling it is popping a lot, no really a backfire, just a pop.
Its still lethargic in my view, the gearbox needs to be used manually to get it to shift :011:
Cheers gents :greggmo:
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Retarded!!
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its only usually peroni & port tuesdays when u insult me
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I think he means the timing is retarded, or needs to be retarded :icon_eek:
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so what does that mean as a fix?
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Yeah!!!
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you need to advance or retard it, fuckedif I know which one :003:
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He needs to advance....
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you need to advance or retard it, fuckedif I know which one :003:
brilliant ya eeejit :003:
so tech heads - how do I advance the Molotov?
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Push it off a cliff :017:
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I would say its the fuelling...
at a guess I think it's the secondary choke/throttle opening tooooo soon and that's why it's cutting out and needs a gentle feather to get to the point when it can handle the amount of fuel it's receiving.
Get the secondary to open later and that might fix it.
timing is critical as well......( no pun intended???)
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Remember 1 degree dwell is 1 degree up yer ASS!!!!
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Is this where a strobe thingy is needed?
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Oh yes...
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no back pressure strait through exhaust by Any chance
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errrr maybe :eusa_whistle:
which bit is that affecting? TBH seemed like a good idea but is daft friggin loud so i can be moved on this
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Rolling road set up...... Cost a bit but will get it running as it should!
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done some googlin and if it seems that is the right direction to go their is a guy nr me that rodsnsods and the Z club are recommending, old skool tuner, no laptops or acne
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done some googlin and if it seems that is the right direction to go their is a guy nr me that rodsnsods and the Z club are recommending, old skool tuner, no laptops or acne
Prolly lots of boxes of ACME :003: ............meeepmeeep
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I may have issues with the Chief on a rolling road tho, seems they may not be set up for something as ....... errrr ................. exotic as the Molotov
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Set the ignition timing to 10° btdc
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Set the ignition timing to 10° btdc
O yeah I see Monsieur Le Bulldog comprehending that little statement :hysterical:
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yup :003:
have no idea what ya talkin bout but at least I may be able to give someone else the heads up :icon_super:
im gettin excited by the prospect of this old skool tuner, will bell him 2mrw
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Top Dead Centre is some of it
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i thought it had been timed up now ?
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Bloody hell even I remember that from my Cavalier owning days...
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well it had but clearly sumink aint right, it runs well enuff to drive it around without stress but there def is a problem as well
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I agree with an old skol tune up, Different kettle of fish but when I had my MX5 mk1 and then had it turbo'd it ran for a about a mile and blew a seal on the crank.
Part of the work I did was then to replace the water pump and timing belt when I did the crank seal. I timed it back up as the computer suggested and it was really down on power.
My neighbour who is an old school mechanic came over with a stethoscope and started to listen to the engine and fiddled with the tuning by sound not by computer guidance.
Hello we then had 240bhp.
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does the dizzy have a vacuum advance? if so is it connected and leak free, if not make sure relevant holes are blanked off
also remember timing set to 10° btdc with the vacuum disconnected at idle
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I would say its the fuelling...
at a guess I think it's the secondary choke/throttle opening tooooo soon and that's why it's cutting out and needs a gentle feather to get to the point when it can handle the amount of fuel it's receiving.
Get the secondary to open later and that might fix it.
timing is critical as well......( no pun intended???)
If the secondaries are opening too soon and over fueling the engine you will see black smoke from the exhaust, this will be apparent when the engine is under load at low revs, if you have a holley carb change the secondary spring, its easy and only takes a few minutes. I use the heaviest spring on my holley T/A and keep it on the primaries as much as possible, gives you better throttle response off road
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doesnt seem to be any smoke
gonna get the Sparky to sort the elecs over the weekend, and he has a mate who is gonna look at the brakes and fiddle with the timing
if still no good will take it to the tuners
been out in it again, it aint disastrous, it def aint right tho
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If it's flat as a nuns cunt it will be the timing for sure...
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is that the technical term lmfao
If it's flat as a nuns cunt it will be the timing for sure...
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a tadge better than a witches tit perhaps?
Anyhow, I thought the nuns version related to dryness?
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a tadge better than a witches tit perhaps?
Anyhow, I thought the nuns version related to dryness?
Eventually dry gets a scab over it!!!!
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For fuck sake Peter I'm having dinner
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Hey!!! One was asked for clarification....
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a tadge better than a witches tit perhaps?
Anyhow, I thought the nuns version related to dryness?
Eventually dry gets a scab over it!!!!
:hysterical: :hysterical: :078: :icon_eek:
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All booked in for at the tuners nxt weds, and im hopin his name is a sign of good things - BD Engineering :icon_super:
On a side note all the elecs hav been done thank fook, altho the speakers hav been disconected :017:
but i asked him to fit the rear fog light out of the way, so where woud it go best on.an off road truck :hysterical:
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For fooks sake :hysterical:
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Even worse than that Ade, if thats the only one then its an MOT failure. Needs to be between centre line and offside.
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Well thats good to kno coz its comin off.
Is inside truck attached to roof top right hand side a u look at back of truck ok?
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Just for you, the actual regs
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796/schedule/11/made (http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796/schedule/11/made)
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:die:
cant ya just tell me?
I cant even b arsed to open that :003:
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Ya lazy fecker :icon_toilet:
Single fog must be centre line or offside
At a Minimum height of 250 mm from the floor
and a Maximum height of 1000 mm from the floor
Cannot be within 100 mm of existing stop lamp
That means you cant put it where you were thinkin.
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Get a defender one and mount on rear tailgate
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Could you not fit something like this in the rear bumper?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mazda-Bongo-Ford-Freda-Rear-Fog-Lamp-Flush-Fit-Light-/320724579049?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4aacacb2e9 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mazda-Bongo-Ford-Freda-Rear-Fog-Lamp-Flush-Fit-Light-/320724579049?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4aacacb2e9)
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i did this on my old pajero two round holes in the rear bumper, MOTed no problem.
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seems within bumper is the option but that aint thin :jpshakehead:
was only this yr that the mot place decided one needed fittin anyway
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you got a reverse light in the light units on the back? Stick a 21w red bulb in one of them & wire to the fog if you have, what I have done on my eunos (or a brake/tail if they have multiples each side)
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so I have nearside as revers and offside as fog?
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Yep, that will do it :icon_winkle:
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yep, fog needs to be centre or offset to the centre of the road I think (I did mine in the drivers side light and had no mot issues), you can get 21w red led bulbs from halfrauds
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yes.
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clearer pic of the rear lights below - so are ya sayin a red bulb in the offside lens where the reverse bit is will suffice as a rear fog if its wired up to the fog light switch?
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personally I would still just go for a lardie one cos they are cheap and I would just place it half way between number plate and lights. The reversing light might be a tad on the small side.
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the tailgate will keep smashing it though
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how much room is there from the bumper to the tailgage skin, would a LED flat lamp type work?
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clearer pic of the rear lights below - so are ya sayin a red bulb in the offside lens where the reverse bit is will suffice as a rear fog if its wired up to the fog light switch?
what I did on my import and had no issues at all, do it
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will give scrws idea a go and see how i get on, i can always just shove the current one back on for the mot if its an issue
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velcro and bullet connectors then lol
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I see BD more of a gaffa tape and scotchlock chap :003:
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gaffer tape rocks :icon_super:
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are you sure you need one, thought pre '81 was only if fitted it needed to work not got one on mine and never an issue
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BD see here,think you might need one.............
http://www.ukmot.com/1-1.asp (http://www.ukmot.com/1-1.asp)
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if registered pre 81 doesn't need one
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from the above link, only cos we know your too lazy to read it :003:
next thing is to define the first date of use
The inspection of rear fog lamps is confined to the one rear fog lamp which is required to be fitted to the centre or offside of vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1980.
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:003: cheers
so centre on the inside roof is ok then :icon_super:
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WHAT FUKIN YEAR IS IT? :banghead: :banghead:
if its a 1980 then you don't need one
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:hysterical: :hysterical: 1981
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1981 does need one but worth checking the chassis number, might just wriggle out of it :003:
if you do have to get one fitted why not just mount it to the tailgate just above the bumper?
and don't forget you must have a dash mounted indicator to show its on and can only work with the ignition on and main/high beam active
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it will be a j9
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J9A17NN140069
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1979 :icon_super: :icon_super:
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the man is right
VIN: J9A17NN140069
Manufacturer: Jeep Corporation
Model: Jeep Cherokee Widetrack 2-dr
Engine: 5.9L AMC 360 V8 2bbl
Year: 1979
Weight: 6200 lbs
Serial Number: 140069
you got a good argument that it don't need one, the regulations state first use not registration and it's a fair argument that if built in '79 then was used by april '80
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cool, and cheers both of ya :greggmo:
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ok, so you don't legally need one, BUT its one of those things that when you need it you really want it. I bet the road lights ain't that bright on those old rear light units?
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. I bet the road lights ain't that bright on those old rear light units?
matches the driver then...... :hysterical:
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I have to agree that my googling and blaggin skills compared Panic are paltry
However .................... :wave-fingersmiely:
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I only need to use google to find the kind of stuff that keeps you mentally happy.