Birty Dastards Jeep Club
Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Bulldog67 on June 03, 2012, 09:28:11 AM
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I know even less bout diesels than I do petrol engines (yes yes, 0.1% less than fuck all etc), but as you all know and hate I dont like to stand still, so a few questions:
If I wanted to sling a cummins 5.9 into the kaiser, or any other Jeep for that matter what would I need to know?
How much better is it over the Perkins 6.354?
What would need to be done to the one below to turn it into Wildwood's promised golden Jeepin paradise?
krakerd cummins 6bta (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/cummins-6BTA-5-9-litre-engine-export-spares-repair-/320528375192?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CommercialVehicleParts_SM&hash=item4aa0fadd98#ht_500wt_1054)
And yes I know just drive it blah de blah :003: im not talkin about this year, just a long term thought
Any other views, opinions, experiences, ideas, etc ............ are warmly sought :003: :greggmo:
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975 lbs :icon_eek:
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I guess if a Ram can handle it.....
Will be a breeze for the M715
Then there's the German bloke you know with the Cummins in the FSJ .
but I shouldn't encourage you :icon_twisted:
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Best bet is to buy a complete truck and canalize everything including the gearbox and all. the early 5.9 has minimal or no electronics so it is quite good. The late 5.9 is much more more computer dependent and don't even think of the latest 6.7 version.
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See told ya BD....as Delk said get a complete truck and run its gearbox....save wads....
used to be people breaking complete vehicles or selling to 3 rd world countries so one of them would get you all the bits you need
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Whats wrong with the Perkins BD? I dont think you will gain much unless you fit a reasonably modern diesel in its place
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or save your cash and fix what you have so you can drive a Jeep to the IOW not a poxy Vulva
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or save your cash and fix what you have so you can drive a Jeep to the IOW not a poxy Vulva
:imwitstupid:
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or save your cash and fix what you have so you can drive a Jeep to the IOW not a poxy Vulva
diffrent pots, and yrs :003:
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Leave the Perkins to the guys running boats. The Cummins is a great engine and has huge potential, just look up Dodge Cummins on YouTube. It is long and heavy but worth the work if it is done correctly.
As I mentioned get a complete truck, the 5.9 will eat small gearboxes and Dodge even had trouble with the manual they installed for a few years. I think they tried running a Getrag (sp) but it quickly died. The NV4500 5spd and NV5600 6sdp do really well plus the auto boxes.
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Perkins Phaser same as a JCB!!!
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got a cummins in my ram (24 valve some electronics) the older 12 valves are basic but fantastic. they sound like crap at idle but you can basicaly adjust the fueling and turbo to produce as much power as you want and it will take it(cant say the rest of the drive train will like it). your biggest problems are weight (no big deal in your truck) and getting a gearbox that will stand it, my dodge ha a nv4500 in it which is pretty stout.
these engines were fitted to daf trucks and are on ebay all the time compleate with the daf gearbox so could be an option.
if they werent so damn heavy id have one in the cj in a heartbeat.
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Oi there. mr King CJ...
When did you ditch the Chev for the Ram? Me envious nooooooooo....yes :icon_twisted:
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Think it was last October time, and its epic :098:
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Sit down Mr BD and take a look at this............... :icon_super:
http://www.dieselpowermag.com/features/trucks/0703dp_1967_jeep_m715_diesel/viewall.html (http://www.dieselpowermag.com/features/trucks/0703dp_1967_jeep_m715_diesel/viewall.html)
Now don't ya feel all warm and ready for parts sourcing :icon_twisted:
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Like i said - blame Jez :003:
I will relax with a pint later and drool
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Wadda bout dis?
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=150829173929&cmd=VIDESC (http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=150829173929&cmd=VIDESC)
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no sure if it's any good but not pick that up when passing :lol_hitting: :lol_hitting:
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The humdingler option!!!
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Is that good?
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Electricketry...
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Ahhh not so good
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fancy a kit diesel
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/chevrolet-gmc-v8-6-2-diesel-engine-more-/330744213955?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4d01e431c3#ht_500wt_949 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/chevrolet-gmc-v8-6-2-diesel-engine-more-/330744213955?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4d01e431c3#ht_500wt_949)
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i have no idea :003:
its a whole new world im entering :102:
does it work for you?
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not sure
it could be a deal if you know some one who can put it back together
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More hassle than it's worth...
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IOM - can i just let you find me one?
the church mouse bracket needs to be applied tho :003:
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IOM - can i just let you find me one?
the church mouse bracket needs to be applied tho :003:
Dare I say it.....
Look at Toyota for engine options!!
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A Toyota engine in a Jeep what are you saying IomanKY??
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toyota do a big diesel?
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toyota do a big diesel?
Oh yes... CLICKY (http://www.high-impact.net/vehapp_toyotalandcruiser.htm)
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Toyota 4.2 is a beast or go all electrickery with the new 4.5 v8
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The new Tojo V8 CLICKY (http://www.themotorreport.com.au/53674/2013-toyota-landcruiser-70-series-dual-cab)
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** cough ** = "church mouse"
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** cough ** = "church mouse"
Wrong thread....
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770 ci V8 diesel
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170857153349&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_1109wt_1037 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170857153349&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123#ht_1109wt_1037)
:icon_super: or :jpshakehead:
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Come on Bulldog its come out of a combine harvester, it will weigh more than the car you are putting it in.
Having said that im sure it will have enough torque to rip your axles off but when it redlines at 1800rpm you will not be happy!.
As i said previously if you really must change it, i would stick to something modernish and preferably smaller/lighter otherwise you will gain nothing :icon_rolleyes:
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just testin Sparky - well done, you have passed :003:
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Look at a Musso...
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Not for long though they are not pretty to look at :078:
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OK look at the donkey in the Musso.
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Its the best part but wouldnt of thought it would have enough go for Mr BD
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not much braggin rights in sayin 'check out my musso engine' :100:
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This engine is iconic capable of monster mileage, I have one here with a plan for it.
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there a merc lump is that right
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yup and as previously said the only really good thing about a musso.
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how about this (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/nissan-patrol-4-2-diesel-engine-and-5-speed-gearbox-/251079076354?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3ANissan%7CModel%3APatrol+Gr&hash=item3a757aaa02#ht_500wt_949)
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man diesel engines aint cheap :icon_eek:
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buy it, strip it, bin the rest or weigh it in for scrap.
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but he already has yard full to do that with
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im gettin as bad as u
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http://www.dieselenginetrader.com/engines.cfm?ID=14 (http://www.dieselenginetrader.com/engines.cfm?ID=14)
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cool site Dave, weird how there are no prices tho
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Just thought it would give you an idea of what lumps are out there that maybe of use. Since its american price is sort of irrelevant
Posted from my phone as its quicker than the pc connection
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6 Zylinder Panzer Dieselmotor (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370443167364?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)
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cool :greggmo:
would be a proper tank
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You could chop this....!!!! (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/chevorlet-dayvan-camper-deisel-V8-rare-classic-auto-vgc-4-yr-no-px-swap-/150818722108?pt=UK_Campers_Caravans_Motorhomes&hash=item231d7f113c#ht_1347wt_932)
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2k and he won buy it a new battery - cheapskate
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wont buy it a new batt cos the pulse timere is fucked more like
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wise words Bubber
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BD would this (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Cargo-Iveco-7-5-Ton-Diesel-Engine-and-Gearbox-Part-No-826F7FDA-/251054068924?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a73fd14bc#ht_2351wt_1164) work for you
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I have no idea mate TBH :003:
altho in truth the kaiser is gonna have to take a back seat for a while as Im feelin some major Chief love and it needs a 4.88 re-gear, rear locker, rear disc brakes, and some new door internals - ideally before CF