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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Dodster on June 11, 2012, 10:49:08 PM
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Ive got a homebrew one that ive used a few times as i cant prise my truetracks out without it, but just doing some research and wondered who uses one..? and if not htf do you set the pre load on the carrier bearings and get it back in without beating the shit out of it like this..?
Dana 44 carrier beat in (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuF33GG7WoI#)
Dont seem right does it..?
And then how do you get it back out afterwards without spreading the case..? Maybe I need more shredded wheat??
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Calling doctor Bubba :003:
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Beat my Dana 30 one in with a big g clamp top and bottom on the diff. The C8.25 is much more sensible, no shims, just side adjusters to set backlash and then tighten with a torque wrench to get preload.
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i dont use one mik stansfield didnt and i know a few trade places that dont but if you have one use but dont over stretch it
i use a soft faced hammer the bloke in the vid is using i dunno a dummy hammer or at least one far to light for the job there is no control or wieght in the one he is using he a tard if you needed to beat on it like that i reackon carrier is way to tight and fried bearings will be on the menu in not too many miles
thats just my take on it and i am a well known retard of many years standing
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Appreciate the replies thanks.. :greggmo:
I dint think that vid was gen..
I will try it without the spreader , I think I can beat it back in ok, I just seem to be a bit wussy getting the thing out..
cheers
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you really need one with the latest arb's because the shims are out side the bearings Early ones you can get away with
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Cheers..Ive read about the shims on the outside and it seems more awkward to get it all back in, I was planning on putting the shims for the backlash on the inside with set up bearings and then adding for the pre-load..but I havent taken it apart yet to see how it was set up before, this is for a spool tho... no money for arb's... :003:
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there are a couple of trade places local who often rebuild dana axles fitting the shims on the outside when i asked why they simply said speeds the job and shims are retained by bearing cap :017: i dunno if they are right or wrong but i asume dana had its reasons for doing it the other way round and thats good enough for me
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shims would be held in by the shafts through them anyway
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indeed i only made the comment as general obsevation of what i have seen and leave it open for everyone to consider and get there veiw as it seemed odd yet i could not argue with there reason
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Presumably you would have to use a spreader if the shims were on the outside of the caps, otherwise they would get mangled when tapping the diff into the case i assume :017:
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no need for dummie bearings with out side shims so much faster to set up
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I spose its quicker cos they wont need set up bearings so less fannying around..but I think as you say I will go with the shims on the inside..
I agree there seems to be a danger of damaging the shims on the outside..
I cant type fast enough.. :003:
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what observed was they were fitting the shimstaks with the thinest to the axle tube but minus the thickest each side then fitting the diff and thikest shim and tapping home they seemed happy with there system weather wrong or right
anyway dodster hope it goes well and realy hope you like the spool
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Cheers...hopefully I will get to run it long enough to give an opinion..:strum:
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Here's what I found after getting a knocking in my rear diff last year. Broken teeth and shims outside the bearing races. Not what I'd call retained. I very much doubt they used a squeaky hammer never mind a dead blow to fit these gears. The whole lot was trying to fall out as I was undoing the bearing caps. With new bearings I needed an extra 30 thou just to take the play out of the carrier fit. Even with the new design locker for the 44 where ARB use shims on the outside they use a thick master shim (0.098" if the same as my one master shim) which would protect the thinner shims, very unlike the cock up that I found behind my diff cover. I rebuilt it with the shims on the inside of the bearings where ARB said they should be for my locker.
(https://birtydastards.com/frm/gallery/982_15_06_12_10_54_48.jpeg)
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Nice gasket.
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Lube locker. Seems to work very well. the covers been off quite a few times since I fitted it and still no leaks. No scraping or applying sealant either.
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I've had lube lockers fitted for a few years, are very good :icon_super: