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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Cockney Boy on September 18, 2012, 09:52:21 PM

Title: Sloppy steering, Upgrade needed
Post by: Cockney Boy on September 18, 2012, 09:52:21 PM
Noticed that my steering needs some work on it as some of the joints have some play in them.

I'm going to use the Synergy ball joints for the hubs but I've been onto Steve at FTE and his steering upgrade still hasn't appeared yet. Any recommendations for uprated track bar and Panard rod joints?
Title: Re: Sloppy steering, Upgrade needed
Post by: willo on September 18, 2012, 09:55:07 PM
I may have an uprated panhard rod bush in my old panhard rod if you want it? its probably only got about 500 miles on it
Title: Re: Sloppy steering, Upgrade needed
Post by: robsrotti on September 18, 2012, 10:06:55 PM
Some of the best joints on the market are Moog, you can get them from 4playjeep.com http://4playjeep.com/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=476 (http://4playjeep.com/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=476)
Title: Re: Sloppy steering, Upgrade needed
Post by: willo on September 18, 2012, 10:16:13 PM
or you could try superpro, they will have em on the shelf and are uk based. Call Richard on 01823 690281
Title: Re: Sloppy steering, Upgrade needed
Post by: Cockney Boy on September 19, 2012, 07:05:35 AM
Cheers guys I be making a few calls later :)
Title: Re: Sloppy steering, Upgrade needed
Post by: Cockney Boy on September 19, 2012, 07:06:10 AM
I also spoke to Steve at FTE about his tummy tucker, he's still waiting for the prototype !!!!
Title: Re: Sloppy steering, Upgrade needed
Post by: Jonny Jeep on September 19, 2012, 08:59:24 AM
I don't know about Moog over here but in the US the consensus seems to be that they've gone to crap, and don't last too long nowadays. Don't know if UK Moog parts are made in the same place though.
Title: Re: Sloppy steering, Upgrade needed
Post by: Asylum on September 20, 2012, 02:03:00 PM
I also spoke to Steve at FTE about his tummy tucker, he's still waiting for the prototype !!!!

If your wanting to raise your belly then I would reccomend this:
http://www.teraflex.biz/tj-wrangler-bellyup-skid-plate.html (http://www.teraflex.biz/tj-wrangler-bellyup-skid-plate.html)

Been running on mine for a number of years and is one of the best mods I done.

I did do a 1 inch engine lift at the same time because of the angle and I done a slip yoke eliminator conversion, advance adapters kit and  rubicon express double cardon short shaft.

I did a lot of research at the time actually and learnt from other experiance so done it all at the same time so never tried running the original drive shaft (dont know if thats your currant setup) but just about everybody had issue with vibrations andbreakages once belly tucked without doing the rest.

 :greggmo:
Title: Re: Sloppy steering, Upgrade needed
Post by: Cockney Boy on September 20, 2012, 02:50:06 PM
I also spoke to Steve at FTE about his tummy tucker, he's still waiting for the prototype !!!!

If your wanting to raise your belly then I would reccomend this:
http://www.teraflex.biz/tj-wrangler-bellyup-skid-plate.html (http://www.teraflex.biz/tj-wrangler-bellyup-skid-plate.html)

Been running on mine for a number of years and is one of the best mods I done.

I did do a 1 inch engine lift at the same time because of the angle and I done a slip yoke eliminator conversion, advance adapters kit and  rubicon express double cardon short shaft.

I did a lot of research at the time actually and learnt from other experiance so done it all at the same time so never tried running the original drive shaft (dont know if thats your currant setup) but just about everybody had issue with vibrations andbreakages once belly tucked without doing the rest.

 :greggmo:

I like the idea of Steve's design as you can remove the belly pan without the need to support the TC with a Jack
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.358874760812805.93424.161293383904278&type=1 (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.358874760812805.93424.161293383904278&type=1)

Title: Re: Sloppy steering, Upgrade needed
Post by: wildwood on September 20, 2012, 03:00:03 PM
Bet the Terraflex would be $$$$$$$ to import due to weight....

If you have mates that can cut 'n' stitch metal...can be done sooo cheap...

Did mine with 2 peices of 6mm plate and braced by rectangular section....... just a day with a grinder and a drill....

Welding was only needed to allow a 2" drop for my 2 transfer cases specifically the Dana 300.... otherwise good to go :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:

Or use tube if ya can cadge a bender ..... makes it light and then secure it to chassis with builder bushes.... same as shackle bushes really but sold for this purpose and to mount cages flexibly to chassis....etc.....

The later will be chosen path this winter..... and gaps will be covered using plastic equivalent of chopping board material........ super slidey stuff.
Title: Re: Sloppy steering, Upgrade needed
Post by: Cockney Boy on September 20, 2012, 03:06:37 PM
Jez are you open to some fluff and fabrication on mine?
Title: Re: Sloppy steering, Upgrade needed
Post by: Asylum on September 20, 2012, 03:43:02 PM
Jez is right that the terraflex would be a a fair amount to import and fabrication the cheaper way by far. If I was to do again I would go the fabrication route but at the time as I got a bulk load of stuff from the states including suspension kit and SYE and short shaft plus loads of other bits the cost wasnt that bad. One thing I can say for it is its very strong though!

It would be nice to be able to have instant access to grease etc though  :017: I see a future mod on the horizon  :greggmo:

Title: Re: Sloppy steering, Upgrade needed
Post by: wildwood on September 20, 2012, 04:43:00 PM
Jez are you open to some fluff and fabrication on mine?

More then happy to mate.....just a question of logistics and time but sure we could come up with a plan :icon_biggrin: