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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: b12 mud on February 27, 2006, 02:29:07 PM

Title: After market lift kits
Post by: b12 mud on February 27, 2006, 02:29:07 PM
Hi all ,im new to this jeep thing being a diehard landy nut for years, do all the aftermarket lift kits cater for castor correction i have been looking at rubicon lift kits  , theres an awfull lot of stuff to add to make these kits work properly???comments please cheers chris
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Post by: chrisjones on February 27, 2006, 02:37:27 PM
What truck ya got there Chris?
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Post by: b12 mud on February 27, 2006, 02:56:53 PM
Quote from: "chrisjones"
What truck ya got there Chris?
No scars yet 2001 plate 4ltr wrangler mellow yellow soft top lowrider??
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Post by: chrisjones on February 27, 2006, 03:18:48 PM
OK.

Next question.

What size lift are you looking at fitting, and why?
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Post by: b12 mud on February 27, 2006, 03:31:34 PM
Hi i want to fit 33s  and gear upgrade,will probably go for rubicon express 3" kit are they cheaper to import or buy here???
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Post by: chrisjones on February 27, 2006, 03:44:25 PM
OK! :shock: .................

You need to talk to the guys who have done this cos' there's several ways to get the clearance for them tyres........big lifts being one and combinations of lift and body lift.

Both work and both bring their own set of equally loveable problems.

Neither is going to be cheap though, so get as much info as you can before spending your money.

You also need to think about if you want to fit lockers while your doing that regear you're going to need with those 33"s fitted.
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Post by: daggie on February 27, 2006, 06:41:54 PM
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Post by: Psychoman on February 27, 2006, 07:04:47 PM
B12 - I've done both the lifted Landy and lifted Jeep thing. Drop me a PM if you want to chat about options - I can run through the typical differences between the two approaches. As the guys say, lifting a Jeep to run 33s properly aint gonna be cheap...
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Post by: Anonymous on February 27, 2006, 07:09:41 PM
Damn site cheaper than modding it to run 35's !!! ;)
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Post by: Manda on February 27, 2006, 09:00:15 PM
My personal choice would be to go with the 3" Teraflex kit, 33's would slide nicely in (I know they do cause we did a friend's bling truck last year), add 1" body lift for a bit space to articulate and job's a good un.

I'd import it too.

Just my 2p's worth...
Title: lift kits
Post by: IANRUBICON on February 28, 2006, 08:54:34 PM
as manda says defenatly import a lot cheaper and more kit for your cash. check out ebay america recently seen a 4 lift kit $480 a bargain..
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Post by: Bubba on February 28, 2006, 10:15:59 PM
buy in the states for sure what you save instead of buying here from the specialists will go a long way to the cost of regearing a tj  top tip has to be anything you can fit or do yaself DO IT dont get ripped off labour costs alone are worth saving
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Post by: elvis on March 01, 2006, 08:45:07 PM
4inch skyjacker rockready looks good from fwd also 6inch very good kit
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Post by: Woody on March 05, 2006, 01:58:32 PM
B12MUD

here are the details of my TJ http://www.j33p.org/rr_view.cfm?ID=510&view_sort=2 (http://www.j33p.org/rr_view.cfm?ID=510&view_sort=2)

As you can see I am running 33's with a 3.5" Rubicon Suspension Lift & a 1" Body Lift.  It gives plenty of articulation & good quality components providing loads of clearance for 33's.  Right now for the expensive bits.

Once you go much above 2.5" of suspension lift you will begin to get rear prop shaft vibrations because of the angles and the slip yoke is on the output shaft from the transfer case - to solve you need a slip yoke eliminator for the transfer case output and a new rear prop shaft with double cardan & and the slip yoke.  

With the Rubicon Express I found that the standard shocks were too long, so if you get any big air on the front end firstly the steering would max out and secondly the prop shaft hit the front of the belly skid - this was solved by using the extreme duty shocks which were shorter.  

Next the steering geometry is pretty much max'd out, drop pitman arms for the steering go some way to solving this but I went for a full customised steering set up from OffroadMDG http://www.j33p.org/item_list.cfm?ID=30&desc= (http://www.j33p.org/item_list.cfm?ID=30&desc=) expensive but very effective.  

Running 33's on the original gearing makes 5th gear almost impossible use and the TJ will run away on descents.  I regeared the diffs to 4.56 and this solved it returning onroad performance to stock and great hill descent crawl speed.

Hope this helps, others will have slightly different set ups and advice, best to have a crawl under their TJs and even try and scrounge a ride.  Take the best from each and you should have a well sorted TJ.  Check out this post currently ongoing on J33P http://www.j33p.org/board.cfm?ID=2446 (http://www.j33p.org/board.cfm?ID=2446) it covers quite a bit that will be of use to you.

Woody