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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Anonymous on March 09, 2006, 08:27:51 AM

Title: auto v manual
Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2006, 08:27:51 AM
ok, probably not a technical issue but here goes

As some of you may know, I am on the look out for a Wrangler TJ, no really? yes honestly

I am dead set on getting an auto so changing gear will be one less thing to have to worry about when tackling obsticles that need driving attention instead of changing gear attention as well. Hey I am a novice at the end of the day and need all the help I can get!

But

Gazjeep is trying his hardest to get me into a manual as they need less mods to make them safe off roading (or something like that)

So you knowledgeable Birty's, your opinions please.
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Post by: isle of man on March 09, 2006, 08:45:23 AM
go auto seems to be the trend at the moment.....so much so that i am going to be auto in my buggy project.



peter henry
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Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2006, 08:47:08 AM
I chose a Manual, and as a Newbie, I would reccomend a Manual as you should be thinking far more before you do things :)

In a Manual, you look at an obstacle and decide what gear you are going to tackle it in. You put your beast in that gear and have a go. You can only lock and auto box in 1st gear, if you choose 2nd, then it can use 1st or 2nd, with 3rd it can use the first three gears.

If you go in some wet stuff and the engine stops, you can put a manual in gear and turn the starter in a vain hope of keeping your feet dry.

Manual gearboxes don't overheat.

1st in a manual us usually a lower gearing than 1st in an auto (Slower, more controlled hill decents)

When (Not if) your handbrake stops working from mud, you can shove a manual in gear on a fairly steep incline and it'll hold your beast without damaging anything. You should not hold you beast on a hill in Park.

There's just a few reasons I can think of. Unless you only have one leg :)

EE
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Post by: JamesH on March 09, 2006, 08:52:16 AM
Big debate this, all about opinions really.

I love the XJ auto for nearly everything except steep descents. However the TJ auto boxes are different and possibly a bit more prone to problems.
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Post by: king cj on March 09, 2006, 08:59:13 AM
autos cant live with water in them for very long so if you want to go wadeing get a manual or a good stock of atf and filters. a mate of mine runs an auto and does very well with it but he has blown one maybe two of them. its all personal preferance at the end of the day.
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Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2006, 09:56:12 AM
go with an auto if thats what you want!! I love my auto......


The "mod" he is worried about is the gearbox breather......only an issue if you go wading!!

Will you two stop fannying about & bloody buy one!!!!! :evil:
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Post by: chrisjones on March 09, 2006, 09:58:59 AM
:imwitstupid:
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Post by: Mick O on March 09, 2006, 10:11:57 AM
I've got one of each, and like them both.

As a novice, the auto would be a good choice.

And you can shift an auto through the gears if you need to.

And you dont have to drive throu deep water if ya dont want to.

And its about time you bloody had one :!:  :brows:

 8)
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Post by: Mort on March 09, 2006, 10:49:47 AM
Auto for me every time.  Remembered this thread http://http://www.birtydastardsjeepclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=592&highlight=auto++manual from a while back, and stand by my comments there.

The 4-speed auto (2002 on?) doesn't have the same problem as the breather is in a sensible position, and can be easily extended.  On the earlier 3-speed it's worth getting the mod done (gearbox on bench job) if you want to wade, or just avoid deep water.  I'm sure you'll find the auto makes it a lot easier to concentrate on your line, and other stuff that's going on.  Apparently, autos are becoming more popular with the military for that reason.
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Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2006, 10:50:56 AM
The other thing to consider is you wont be a novice for long ....
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Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2006, 11:17:41 AM
Yeah, just think, 20 years and you might be able to parallel park  :twisted:
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Post by: Dodster on March 09, 2006, 01:44:28 PM
IMHO, (as a relative novice) i say decide which drive you want... have a go in both manual and auto and decide which you prefer and dont look back...

Their are lots of fors and against on both sides and everyone thinks theirs is the best.. I prefer auto..

If you are going to fork out in the first place, have the one you want.. :wink:
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Post by: Anonymous on March 09, 2006, 04:38:26 PM
well chaps thanks for the feed back, what a mixture of opinions there are

It seems I should try before i buy

BEWARE I will be after generous TJ owners on Sunday to let me have a whizz in their vehicles.

Oh go on, please I will try not to break them
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Post by: Dodster on March 09, 2006, 04:50:03 PM
I try not to whizz in mine.. manda has ordered a toilet  :D

Seriously though, no problem.. :smt023
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Post by: daggie on March 09, 2006, 06:34:04 PM
auto 8)
I think its the early autos that are an arse to modify, the later ones just involve extending the breather
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Post by: Bubba on March 09, 2006, 11:13:58 PM
auto every time
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Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2006, 08:49:43 AM
I liked the auto in the XJ, but recon that for frodin the manual was better for my choice, the engine braking on the ZJ manual was much better than the auto. But its a case of horses for courses! :D
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Post by: jeepsterv8 on March 11, 2006, 05:00:55 PM
i`m with bubba
auto everytime , had manual took it out and swapped in an auto best move ever
in my oppion  :lol: