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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Cockney Boy on January 06, 2013, 05:22:07 PM

Title: Greasable Axle UJ's or Not (mixed reviews)
Post by: Cockney Boy on January 06, 2013, 05:22:07 PM
Bubba is doing some work on my Axles and seeing as its all in peices tis a good time to replace the front Axle UJ's. Been told by a few people that the greasable ones (in particular the Spicer) tend to need greasing alot more as the seals arnt that good. The ones i have on there at the moment arnt greasable and have not let me down.

Quesiton is should i go greasable (and what recommendations) or stick with the normal ones?

Title: Re: Greasable Axle UJ's or Not (mixed reviews)
Post by: isle of man on January 06, 2013, 05:25:50 PM
What tyre size have you? Also what locker fitted?
Title: Re: Greasable Axle UJ's or Not (mixed reviews)
Post by: Cockney Boy on January 06, 2013, 05:26:50 PM
35" and a Trutrack, and the front shafts are standard too
Title: Re: Greasable Axle UJ's or Not (mixed reviews)
Post by: robsrotti on January 06, 2013, 05:29:51 PM
You want these, Alloy USA 11500 joints
Title: Re: Greasable Axle UJ's or Not (mixed reviews)
Post by: Cockney Boy on January 06, 2013, 05:31:07 PM
You want these, Alloy USA 11500 joints

Time is a factor and i was thinking of the standard Spicer 297x
Title: Re: Greasable Axle UJ's or Not (mixed reviews)
Post by: wildwood on January 06, 2013, 05:32:09 PM
can't confirm this chatter but they say ....the septics that if ya drill a hole to allow it to be greats able then there lies the weakness....... "The drilled hole"

But just came across this from old copy of CRAWL Mag....
Reel DrivelineH2 o U joints.......40% stronger non greasable....$44 to $88

Yukon super joints 72% stronger $159 to $ 245 per joint

And so it goes on...... Bet your shocked already????.

CTM are $ 269 per joint....... :icon_twisted:

I' m off for a Merlot........ Bet you need a drink now?
Title: Re: Greasable Axle UJ's or Not (mixed reviews)
Post by: isle of man on January 06, 2013, 05:32:52 PM
Some say the grease-able one's are weaker due to the drilling of the nipple, if it was me I would look at RCV shafts or CTM UJ's ( this is what I have on the Mafia) it depends on cost I guess.
Title: Re: Greasable Axle UJ's or Not (mixed reviews)
Post by: Cockney Boy on January 06, 2013, 05:33:47 PM
can't confirm this chatter but they say ....the septics that if ya drill a hole to allow it to be greats able then there lies the weakness....... "The drilled hole"

But just came across this from old copy of CRAWL Mag....
Reel DrivelineH2 o U joints.......40% stronger non greasable....$44 to $88

Yukon super joints 72% stronger $159 to $ 245 per joint

And so it goes on...... Bet your shocked already????.

CTM are $ 269 per joint....... :icon_twisted:

I' m off for a Merlot........ Bet you need a drink now?

CTS's are only available for Dana 60's and 44's but i think they are the same dim's  :jpshakehead: and fook paying that lol Pour me a glass please  :icon_jook:
Title: Re: Greasable Axle UJ's or Not (mixed reviews)
Post by: wildwood on January 06, 2013, 05:34:27 PM
Seeeeee

IOM and me and Crawl mag........ What better advice :hysterical:
Title: Re: Greasable Axle UJ's or Not (mixed reviews)
Post by: Cockney Boy on January 06, 2013, 05:36:31 PM
Seeeeee

IOM and me and Crawl mag........ What better advice :hysterical:

and both of you are drinking lol
Title: Re: Greasable Axle UJ's or Not (mixed reviews)
Post by: isle of man on January 06, 2013, 05:38:13 PM
30 & 44 it's the same shaft I believe.
Title: Re: Greasable Axle UJ's or Not (mixed reviews)
Post by: robsrotti on January 06, 2013, 05:39:48 PM
Steve will probably have the usa alloy ones in stock and could send them up to Bubba. They have a grease nipple on the end of each truniun so all the strenght is retained in the X.
Title: Re: Greasable Axle UJ's or Not (mixed reviews)
Post by: isle of man on January 06, 2013, 05:43:00 PM
Have CTM on the Buggy also, never broke one!! They do need regular greasing though.....You can't be to careful.
Title: Re: Greasable Axle UJ's or Not (mixed reviews)
Post by: Dave The Sparky on January 06, 2013, 05:58:55 PM
30 & 44 it's the same shaft I believe.

Is that just on later ones as on FSJ and CJs they arent.

Greasable every time......
I have always found they fail through water getting in and causing a lack of lubricant if not, the same goes for the propshaft ones, water always finds its way in at some point and then its not long before its grinding itself to bits  :011:
Title: Re: Greasable Axle UJ's or Not (mixed reviews)
Post by: Bubba on January 06, 2013, 06:05:03 PM
lube that sucker up
Title: Re: Greasable Axle UJ's or Not (mixed reviews)
Post by: Cockney Boy on January 06, 2013, 06:17:46 PM
Will get a few of Steve FTE then Kev so you have a needle for a grease gun? if not ive ot one
Title: Re: Greasable Axle UJ's or Not (mixed reviews)
Post by: Bubba on January 06, 2013, 06:19:55 PM
 :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:
Title: Re: Greasable Axle UJ's or Not (mixed reviews)
Post by: gazjeep on January 06, 2013, 07:02:15 PM
I got usa automaotive heavy duty greasable ones, they usually only keep the non greasable heavy duty ones in stock but got them in within a week & £36 each  :icon_winkle:
Title: Re: Greasable Axle UJ's or Not (mixed reviews)
Post by: Jonny Jeep on January 06, 2013, 07:56:10 PM
Quote

Time is a factor and i was thinking of the standard Spicer 297x

I believe they are obsolete since Jeep, upon designing the Rubicon, told Spicer they wanted a stronger UJ. The result was the stronger cold forged 760x UJ.
Title: Re: Greasable Axle UJ's or Not (mixed reviews)
Post by: cuffm on January 06, 2013, 08:05:26 PM
First choice would be Alloy USA 11500 joints or alike (used them for several years without a problem), second would be 760-X sealed ones, as previously pointed out 297-X have been replaced by 760-X.  The problem with UJ's that only have one greasable trunion, is the grease doesn't often get to the other trunions causing them to dry and then fail. 

Cuffy 
Title: Re: Greasable Axle UJ's or Not (mixed reviews)
Post by: MOCAJ on January 06, 2013, 11:02:16 PM
alloy usa x joint or 11500 here, always grease up after off roading  :icon_winkle: