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Title: Axles again
Post by: Dtimot8 on January 24, 2013, 07:06:48 PM
Wow second post in a day
Does anybody know of any supplier that can cope with the import of a new crate front axle?
It seems to me that there are 2 choices
1 Get them to import (if they can) as they may have more favourable transport costs
2 Import it myself and get ripped of by fed-ex or UPS
The thing that swings it in favour of supplier is if they get a discount from the people in the states – otherwise you are just going to pay more because of their profit.
I know when I looked at bringing stuff in in bulk, for the various Mustangs I’ve owned over the years, – the first question US suppliers ask is how many 000’s would you like.  Which when it comes to axles isn’t going to happen
Mr Wildwood you were partially right the insanity is taking hold but as I want to stay at the same vehicle width I shall probably go Dana44 rather than 60
Going of at a slight tangent there are a few Grand Cherokee (pre ifs obviously) front axles on fleabay.  They look like Dana30’s but being no expert may not be what axle is it likely to be
Many thanks as always
Lord Tim
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: isle of man on January 24, 2013, 07:08:35 PM
Tim,


What tyres are you running?
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: Bulldog67 on January 24, 2013, 07:15:06 PM
http://www.birtydastards.com/frm/index.php?topic=20564.0 (http://www.birtydastards.com/frm/index.php?topic=20564.0)
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: MOCAJ on January 24, 2013, 07:51:27 PM
I think you are getting carried away Tim, think of what type of froading you want to do before big spends.

TJ can do lots of stuff without axle change. Willo has done it for extreme events but i am sure you will have never tried owt like that, spoken in a true northern fashion lol
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: JamesH on January 24, 2013, 08:33:23 PM
 :imwitstupid:

I've never broken anything axle related in 8 years. I do drive quite carefully but a few people have witnessed me giving it some, getting some air and redlining the engine
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: Dodster on January 24, 2013, 09:16:05 PM
 :iagree: If youre gonna go down the comp route then it might be worth it but otherwise i'm not so sure..
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: willo on January 25, 2013, 05:51:57 PM
I have to agree with the previous comments....however if you do decide to import, give me a shout first...I am just about to have some interesting meetings with the right people in the right area...
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: wildwood on January 25, 2013, 06:23:08 PM
lord Tim....... Just a heads up.on the Dana30 or Dana 44 route ....... Unless you. Get a hi zoot 44 Tis only the diff that is different the tubes and knuckles with be same and the shafts and UJs will be the same.

If you go hi zoot then maybe thicker tubes and Crane knuckles and spendy shafts and UJs and a world of financial pain.
main advantage for you is the,lower than 4.88 that is the stumbling block of the Dana 30 whereas the 44 can get you to the 5.13 where you prob want to be.

Some in. The USA are buying the JK axles that are new generation 44s.....now available in a TJ width and can be bought ready to load in yer TJ.... Worth a research if you are going that route. :icon_super:
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: Bulldog67 on January 25, 2013, 06:38:53 PM
I just had a beer with Tim and he has big plans lurkin in the back of his mind - we need to encourage his inner building nutter to come out and play  :003:
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: isle of man on January 25, 2013, 06:53:14 PM
Tim, a word of warning, so you intend to enter the world of mansize!!!!!!!!! This is going to hurt and I for one welcome you.
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: wildwood on January 25, 2013, 07:04:07 PM
Tim good sir...... Monster axles 106" wheelbase and 40" tyres........ Go for it now then you won't have to get there in 2 or 3 rebuilds.

Go on go on go on ....... You know it makes sense :icon_super:
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: JamesH on January 25, 2013, 07:17:43 PM
Don't piss about with 44s if you plan to go big  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: willo on January 25, 2013, 07:33:06 PM
just find a nice couple of rockwells and go with them :greggmo:
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: wildwood on January 25, 2013, 07:42:27 PM
80's Dodge Ram with Rockwells 500 yards from me :icon_super: Got 40's on it and is a rattley old diesel Mill that hasn't moved in three years....


I  Wait to pounce :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: isle of man on January 25, 2013, 07:44:55 PM
just find a nice couple of rockwells and go with them :greggmo:

Would you lie with a brass that you could not see the meaning of life????
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: wildwood on January 25, 2013, 07:47:59 PM
BUT.......they are monster heavy....... Just look at the troop carrier they came from...... So 4 link either end and 120" wheelbase.
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: isle of man on January 25, 2013, 07:49:40 PM
BUT.......they are monster heavy.


Thats what I just said.....
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: MOCAJ on January 25, 2013, 08:06:28 PM
like your enthuiasm guys but i feel a lost soul, much fun can be had as we all know with stock axles, maybes some lockers, re gear and tother stuff  :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: robsrotti on January 25, 2013, 08:10:22 PM
 :iagree: totally
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: Bulldog67 on January 25, 2013, 08:11:59 PM
you two needn't bother ducking
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: robsrotti on January 25, 2013, 08:20:57 PM
swatted bigger flies
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: isle of man on January 25, 2013, 08:44:59 PM
What!!! With those balls??
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: Dtimot8 on January 26, 2013, 06:10:57 PM
Back on track
Mr H on 33's at the moment looking to go to 35 or 37's
WW i like the early reasoning but want to stay relatively stock (as you can tell not an engineer in any way shape or form)
I looking at these
http://www.dynatrac.com/products/tj/pro-rock44.html (http://www.dynatrac.com/products/tj/pro-rock44.html)

or these
http://www.g2axle.com/axle-assembly/front-dana-44-assembly.aspx (http://www.g2axle.com/axle-assembly/front-dana-44-assembly.aspx)

has anybody used a supplier i note robsrotti post

Regards Lord Tim
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: wildwood on January 26, 2013, 06:25:07 PM
Also look at Curries long time fave of the JP lot and put together neat Ford 9" rear end and front ends for TJ size vehicles. same size as Dana 44 but stronger and more toys available. also from a maintenance point
 of view if ya pull the drive shafts and unbolt the diff the whole plot comes out leaving an empty axle tube and diff case for ease of maintainance on the bench.. Ford 9" is the darling of the roundly roundly brigade, so as said lots of stuff available.
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: isle of man on January 26, 2013, 06:32:38 PM
Tim if a 37" tyre is your target I would not throw a 60 under the front...









I'm curious what is your budget?
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: wildwood on January 26, 2013, 06:42:33 PM
I did get a text from Robbsrotti that there are a pair of Dana 60's for sale on D44 forum....£1,000 ...right side. Drop but then a Dana 300 is only £300 and yer there :icon_super:
Title: Re: Axles again
Post by: Tragic on January 27, 2013, 01:40:09 PM

I looking at these
http://www.dynatrac.com/products/tj/pro-rock44.html (http://www.dynatrac.com/products/tj/pro-rock44.html)



Si Redmond has a pair of Dynatrac 60s under his YJ. Custom built to his specs, they're worth every penny.