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Tech Forum => Workshop => Topic started by: Dave69 on March 15, 2014, 09:57:42 PM

Title: security
Post by: Dave69 on March 15, 2014, 09:57:42 PM

what security do people use on a CJ7 when the soft top is not being used?

since there is just a key to start an no electronics to play with whats out there to prevent theft?

Hidden isolation switch in the main loom is the main idea
Title: Re: security
Post by: IrishCJ6 on March 15, 2014, 10:09:36 PM
I have a master on/off switch wired into my main fuse block feed, thus unless the special key is in there is no power whatsoever, it works for both constant and ACC settings. I was able to do this easily as I designed my own wiring harness and fuse block. The old way we did it was removing a plug lead or the dizzy rotor. Both inhibit the engine from starting. Another one is you can wire a switch inline with the coil positive feed, again unless its on, no power will transmit to the coil and thus won't start.
Title: Re: security
Post by: Dave The Sparky on March 15, 2014, 10:36:03 PM

what security do people use on a CJ7 when the soft top is not being used?


The same security as with a super secure soft top on surely :017:
Title: Re: security
Post by: Dutch on March 15, 2014, 10:45:51 PM
Mine came with an immobilizer fobbie thinghy.

No press whatsits before tuning key, no start.

One of the previous Birty owners install me thinks ..... greg or mick  :017:

Title: Re: security
Post by: IrishCJ6 on March 15, 2014, 10:51:49 PM
Yep an immobilizer can be fitted however, in a Jeep that doesn't have the best of electrics and often suffers from water ingress a more basic fail safe system is usually better.
Title: Re: security
Post by: bigjeepzj on March 15, 2014, 10:55:24 PM
basic immobilizer
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNIVERSAL-RFID-Intelligent-electronic-Transponder-Immobilizer-RFID-IMES-/360646097159?pt=UK_Car_Accessories_Safety_Security&hash=item53f82eb907
 
bit better than a switch as it self sets
Title: Re: security
Post by: Dave The Sparky on March 15, 2014, 11:42:27 PM
basic immobilizer
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNIVERSAL-RFID-Intelligent-electronic-Transponder-Immobilizer-RFID-IMES-/360646097159?pt=UK_Car_Accessories_Safety_Security&hash=item53f82eb907
 
bit better than a switch as it self sets

Bit of cable and 20 seconds and i will have your CJ started bypassing that piece of kit.

Just try not to leave anything in it or leave it out of view for long, its common sense not security that is required in this case :003:
Title: Re: security
Post by: bigjeepzj on March 15, 2014, 11:49:20 PM
Yep your right but so can a kill switch be bypassed
The only reason the modern day imobalizer work is that it part of the engine management computer.

So stopping old iron from being nicked is harder
German shepherd is the best bet
Title: Re: security
Post by: Bubba on March 16, 2014, 09:02:02 AM
quick release steering wheel
Title: Re: security
Post by: Bulldog67 on March 16, 2014, 09:14:06 AM
 :imwitstupid:
Title: Re: security
Post by: Bulldog67 on March 16, 2014, 09:15:06 AM
http://www.birtydastards.com/frm/index.php?topic=6775.0
Title: Re: security
Post by: Mike2909 on March 16, 2014, 11:36:20 AM
Old fashioned crook-lock puts most off trying to nick the Jeep ( unless its targeted then say bye bye)but will not stop them nicking stuff that's visible.
 
Title: Re: security
Post by: Dave69 on March 16, 2014, 07:43:14 PM
Appreciate if they want it they will have it since i have experienced that. Just wondered what peeps have/are currently using. Might just go for a main loom isolator and see how that goes
Title: Re: security
Post by: UKJeeper on March 16, 2014, 07:44:08 PM

what security do people use on a CJ7 when the soft top is not being used?


The same security as with a super secure soft top on surely :017:

This.


Oh, and this:

(https://www.tuffyproducts.com/images/Product/medium/85.jpg)


https://www.tuffyproducts.com/p-85-deluxe-stereo-security-console-8-wide.aspx
Title: Re: security
Post by: j33pky on March 16, 2014, 09:27:46 PM
Who the hells going to pinch a piece off crap like that? :lol_hitting:   is it not insured?
Title: Re: security
Post by: Dave69 on March 17, 2014, 06:57:58 PM
wouldn't have thought a tuffy box would warrant its own insurance
Title: Re: security
Post by: xr6jeeper on March 17, 2014, 11:04:21 PM
A fuel pump switch, and a battery cut out switch , i like the idea of a removable steering wheel, might have to look into that. Another way is to give the jeep enough fuel to start but it then cuts out down the road, not sure how its done but any thieving scumbag is bound to just walk away from a jeep stuck in the road, arent they....
Title: Re: security
Post by: Cockney Boy on March 18, 2014, 10:23:44 AM
Having something clearly visible such as no wheel or a lock is the best option but if they want it that bad then they will wait until you return to the car and take the key and your phone by force
Title: Re: security
Post by: Nosebolt on March 18, 2014, 02:02:21 PM
it's not just the vehicle you need to protect, I had the winch rope stolen of the winch one night while it was parked on the drive.

there is a fine balance between making it hard for some slag to nick you rig and making it a pain to start up when you want to drive it
Title: Re: security
Post by: eastryjeep on March 19, 2014, 12:38:46 AM
Install a cheap immobiliser, but instead of following the normal instructions, fit it above and behind the fuel tank, screwed to the rear tub crossmember. Fit a shut off solenoid valve hidden up there also and a second electrical breaker to cut power to the fuel gauge.
The idea being when they jury rig the ignition it shows no fuel and then runs out 2 mins later.
This little set up worked for me in South Africa on the Jeep and a Beetle.
All you need is a lift round the block to find the car.
It was a sod that they slashed the seats in the VW but at least I still had my car and insurance excess.
Mount your stereo head unit on a removable CB bracket like this http://bit.ly/1ifSvxO and remember to take it out when you leave the vehicle.
Or:
Bolt a large metal box behind the back seat, but I always figured that was just like a red rag to a bull.